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Didn't see this posted elsewhere... VINTAGE RUSSO http://www.scribd.com/doc/246614900/Vince-Russo-on-Homosexuality-in-Wrestling http://www.scribd.com/doc/246614899/Vince-Russo-Books-WrestleMania-8
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We joke about a TNA reality tv show, but in reality Dixie actually pitched such a show to networks a couple of years ago after she was turned down by a reality tv show (the name of which escapes me). It was pushed exactly as you expect - Dixie is just a mom but she's also the successful owner of a wrestling company. No one was interested enough to even want a pilot.
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Skinty McEdger posted:We joke about a TNA reality tv show, but in reality Dixie actually pitched such a show to networks a couple of years ago after she was turned down by a reality tv show (the name of which escapes me). It was pushed exactly as you expect - Dixie is just a mom but she's also the successful owner of a wrestling company. I think she wanted to get on Real Housewives of Nashville or something along those lines.
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Testekill posted:I think she wanted to get on Real Housewives of Nashville or something along those lines. This but it wasn't an official "Real Housewives" thing, it was a bad knockoff
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Skinty McEdger posted:We joke about a TNA reality tv show, but in reality Dixie actually pitched such a show to networks a couple of years ago after she was turned down by a reality tv show (the name of which escapes me). It was pushed exactly as you expect - Dixie is just a mom but she's also the successful owner of a wrestling company. This is all particularly funny, because this is an actual thing that a big network will buy.
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From herequote:No offense meant at all man, but prove they didn't make payroll or were late paying. No one outside that company knows the financials. Why would someone float that online you ask? Because they work everyone at all times. That's wrestling. The boys work shoot interview guys as marks and say things that will trend. They embellish here and there but its part of the grift. A pissed off employee who leaks a rumor that trends, likely gets a call back and money from a newz site next time. Not saying that's what it is but prove to me absolutely that it isn't. Neither of us are likely to. Panda paying the bills is not new nor is it news. That isn't the. Carter's paying off Dixie's debts that is called an investment and it's an easy right off on loss for their overall bottom line. Major industrial companies do this. With Panda its energy so they are experts in margins. Righting off minor losses allows for expenditures in another area. They are likely to have dozens of companies/investments they do this with. Again, I will never call her a saint or even a very good promoter, she isn't. But I am not going to grudge her a bit for spending her money the way she wants. Clueless TNA defender Testekill fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Nov 16, 2014 |
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Nov 16, 2014 04:49
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I will now apply that logic to everything in wrestling ever: You don't know because they work everyone all the time.
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It gets worse. Anything bad that you hear about TNA in a shoot interview is just bitterness from former employees and that since TNA aren't publicly traded then you can't know how the business is going so you should just gently caress off because you don't know anything.
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Nov 16, 2014 05:08
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Good for the Newz sites if they have enough money to pay sources.
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sticklefifer posted:I will now apply that logic to everything in wrestling ever: You don't know because they work everyone all the time. That TNA will get a new TV deal any minute now? That's the stone cold truth. I mean, why would Dixie lie?
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You don't know if she's lying or not because she works everyone all the time, you see.
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sticklefifer posted:You don't know if she's lying or not because she works everyone all the time, you see. Pretty soon she'll be the only one still working.
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Nov 16, 2014 13:56
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Honestly a mostly staged Honey Boo Boo style "broken people reality show" on TLC would be a thing that could legit save TNA. A well set up cheap reality show makes tons of cash and even if they ran Impact at 6 on a Friday it would probably be more popular than it is right now. Those TLC shows like "bear country meat delivery" or whatever make an ungodly amount of cash from marketing, I'm pretty sure at this point the Duck Dynasty people are millionaires just from T Shirt sales. They were already millionaires before the show. So it would work fine with Dixie!
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quote:Attendance is stagnant and the Network has basically killed any chance of WWE ever getting in the PPV business ever again. The TV deals have't turned out to be what WWE thought it was going to be and the audience is heavily reliant upon those who became fans as kids in the 80's and 90's (which is why the average age of a raw viewer is something like 37). The 2000's haven't really created new fans and the audience is going to keep hemorraghing fans unless a new star can come and really draw new viewers, not just the children of wrestling fans.
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Yeah, that's almost sane compared to most of the stuff here. Honestly if the WWE continue down this road I could see them just disappearing. Not today or tomorrow, but if trends continue for ten or twenty years...
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It's tough to sensibly project where ANY business is going to be 20 years from now but WWE's a long way from going out of business Any company that has 20 straight years of decline is going to obviously be in serious trouble. He's right in that the global wrestling industry is in a weak state right now and that no matter how much I love them NJPW being the only real major league fed would be horrible for the global industry, but one major fuckup (Network so far) isn't going to kill the WWE. Not that they really matter for much in the grand scheme of things other than entertaining smarks and serving as a developmental territory, but ROH is actually doing rather well this year and their future looks a hell of a lot more secure than it did a couple years ago. Not fair to say at all that they're at their nadir.
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The major point is still valid. The drawing power of a prowrestling event is dwindling. Something happened in the late 80s that created a downward slide. Was it the WWF vs WCW's all or nothing expansion war? Was it the breaking of kafaybe? The rise of the Internet? Business practices not adapting to the tastes of the fans? gently caress I dunno. I just know indies consider a 400 person house a roaring success. WWE has to do screwy diversification to get its books right.
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Isn't most media undergoing a decline in numbers just due to fragmentation? UFC I think is still an exception, and I'm sure the WWE's effective monopoly doesn't help, but wrestling's situation isn't unique.
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I blame WWE's over-reliance on vanilla midgets. Push John Cena.
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WWE has all the tools at their disposal to make it hot again. Vince won't die though, so they can't really do anything with them.
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sportsgenius86 posted:WWE has all the tools at their disposal to make it hot again. Vince won't die though, so they can't really do anything with them. Murder Vince in his sleep and fire Kevin Dunn into a volcano.
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coconono posted:Murder Vince in his sleep and fire Kevin Dunn into a volcano. Do you really think that striking him down wouldn't just lead to him returning stronger?
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I always thought it was strange how wrestling fans openly talk about wanting the head honcho of the show they watch each week, month after month, year after year to die. Seems kind of drastic when you could just stop watching the product. I think Vince is someone to aspire towards being. There is no better position in life than to be a successful lunatic. That owns. I don't currently watch the show. God Of Paradise fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Nov 19, 2014 |
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God Of Paradise posted:I always thought it was strange how wrestling fans openly talk about wanting the head honcho of the show they watch each week, month after month, year after year to die. Seems kind of drastic when you could just stop watching the product. I've definitely heard people talk about wanting Gary Bettman dead and I'm like 85% sure I've read more than one published editorial openly talking about it.
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It's an insane idea but maybe they could always try better writing? I mean, successful TV shows, when they're not ultra cheap reality TV or a Chuck Lorre sitcom, generally have good or at least serviceable writing.
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Charles Gnarwin posted:Do you really think that striking him down wouldn't just lead to him returning stronger? flashy_mcflash posted:I've definitely heard people talk about wanting Gary Bettman dead and I'm like 85% sure I've read more than one published editorial openly talking about it. I don't really get into murder fantasies about Vince McMahon, I'm way too focused on leading the revolution and ultimate destruction of Bob Nutting. 
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hey bill wirtz died and the blackhawks went from being the worst franchise in any of the major sports to being a multiple-time champ basically overnight. resorting to death as an agent of change is pretty much what you get with monarchistic monopolies. we'll just have to see if vince also gets booed during his moment of silence
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TNA fans don't wash possibly bullied
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"this history occasion"
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sportsgenius86 posted:"this history occasion" The most history occasion in the history of our sport.
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What happened with TNA that they're all celebrating? Did they get that show on AMC right after Walking Dead so it has the lead in it deserves? Is it on Discovery? Am I going to be able to discover TNA soon?
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TheJoker138 posted:What happened with TNA that they're all celebrating? Did they get that show on AMC right after Walking Dead so it has the lead in it deserves? Is it on Discovery? Am I going to be able to discover TNA soon? LOLOLOL TNA signed with poo poo network for less money!
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because if they didn't get a deal they'd be out of business. these people like the tna product.
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They genuinely think Destination America is an improvement over Spike Even though Spike's available in twice as much homes, and absolutely paid TNA more
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Chris James 2 posted:They genuinely think Destination America is an improvement over Spike If that's true, why would TNA leave Spike??? It would be stupid for them to leave and go to a worse channel with less money. I swear, you haters just never give up huh.
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Chris James 2 posted:They genuinely think Destination America is an improvement over Spike You'll see how wrong you are now TNA is finally on a network willing to promote them.
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