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I really wish The Lost could have Holy Mantle as a strating item and not have flight. Even then it'd still be hard as hell.... 
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Kaethela posted:How the gently caress do you do Cat Got Your Tongue? I can't swing this stupid hairball without bumping into enemies every single time. It depends on the enemies, the fast/twitchy ones are the worst. I'd probably just try and practice how the hairball moves, especially if you do sharp maneuvers. But yeah uh... good luck in the challenge
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Nov 19, 2014 04:44
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Remember that the hairball goes behind you when you move, so if you're being chased by something just run away in a cardinal direction and the hairball will drag behind you, hitting whatever is coming after you. Also get really lucky and find a dice room that rolls the hairball and whatever else you pick up into something that can shoot tears. Pro advice.
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Nov 19, 2014 04:46
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Do steam sales stack? If I get two will things be 75% off in the shop?
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Nov 19, 2014 05:37
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I just did a boss rush and had no issues. Next floor I run into Dingle in a room; he takes all of my 7 hearts. I hate that boss so much.
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Nov 19, 2014 05:38
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Waffleopolis posted:I really wish The Lost could have Holy Mantle as a strating item and not have flight. Even then it'd still be hard as hell.... That might be asking for a bit much. Personally I'd like it if The Lost at least started with Judas damage, because the beginning floors just feel like an incredible slog with him.
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Nov 19, 2014 05:47
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Maide posted:I just did a boss rush and had no issues. Next floor I run into Dingle in a room; he takes all of my 7 hearts. I hate that boss so much.
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Nov 19, 2014 05:48
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I don't really want to play the Lost because it feels like on top of needing to be really good you also need the RNG to cooperate with you. There are bunch of items that are worthless to him because he can't take more than one hit, and from what I've heard the game doesn't compensate for this at all. You have to hope you get items that are actually relevant and not useless due to the Lost's gimmick.
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Nov 19, 2014 05:57
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IronicDongz posted:What on earth are you doing against dingle that that happens? It charged at me and hit me every time because I don't even know why. That boss is too quick. 
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Nov 19, 2014 06:01
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Maide posted:It charged at me and hit me every time because I don't even know why. That boss is too quick. He telegraphs his charges with an animation that's literally like three seconds long. Move sideways out of his path when he frowns, and then move sideways out of his path again two more times because he charges three times in a row. It's really easy to dodge, guy.
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Nov 19, 2014 06:04
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drunken officeparty posted:loving christ I hate ludovico. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if mouse controls worked like the original Ludovico is fantastic depending on what you get. Brimstone makes it one of the best things to pick up due to the easy constant damage and huge radius of effect. Kaethela posted:How the gently caress do you do Cat Got Your Tongue? I can't swing this stupid hairball without bumping into enemies every single time. I didn't find it that hard, really. Once you get the hang of it you get pretty good at hitting stuff with it and all you need is one hit for an attack fly to spawn. Just take it slow and carefully, there's no need to rush. It ends at Mom so it's not like you have reason to worry about the boss rush. It's also really effective against Mom since you can hit multiple doorways at once with the rotation.
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Nov 19, 2014 06:07
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I've teleported to the devil room before. I know I have. I just killed krampus and he dropped his head. I want it. But also I wanted to find the i am error room on purpose for once and I had a broken teleporter and a remote detonator so I can teleport for free as much as I want. I've been teleporting for what feels like forever and I haven't teleported to I am error and I haven't teleported back to the devil room and the door has disappeared. Can only the joker card or red chests teleport you there and I done hosed up?
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Nov 19, 2014 06:13
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Anyone complaining about Dingle when Gurdy "No Telegraph No Animation Just Open Mouth and Ping-Pong Around Room" Jr. is in this game honestly confuses me.
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Nov 19, 2014 06:15
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Krinkle posted:I've teleported to the devil room before. I know I have. I just killed krampus and he dropped his head. I want it. But also I wanted to find the i am error room on purpose for once and I had a broken teleporter and a remote detonator so I can teleport for free as much as I want. I've been teleporting for what feels like forever and I haven't teleported to I am error and I haven't teleported back to the devil room and the door has disappeared. Can only the joker card or red chests teleport you there and I done hosed up?
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Nov 19, 2014 06:17
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There are so many goddamn times I have walked into the devil room, opened one of the red chests, and got teleported to the devil room I am currently standing in. It's like gently caress you, why can't you make that happen when I'm not already here? 
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Nov 19, 2014 06:18
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What exactly does the Cancer trinket do?
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Nov 19, 2014 06:20
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Increases fire rate. Not as much as the first game unfortunately.
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Nov 19, 2014 06:20
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I wonder if there will be any balance changes to the lost. It was a super secret that was supposed to stay hidden for a really long time, so maybe ed didn't put a huge amount of thought into it. The only thing I would ask is that the items that are only usable on hit (and are thus completely useless to the lost) be balanced so they do something, or don't show up, I don't know.
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Nov 19, 2014 06:22
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Krinkle posted:I've teleported to the devil room before. I know I have. I just killed krampus and he dropped his head. I want it. But also I wanted to find the i am error room on purpose for once and I had a broken teleporter and a remote detonator so I can teleport for free as much as I want. I've been teleporting for what feels like forever and I haven't teleported to I am error and I haven't teleported back to the devil room and the door has disappeared. Can only the joker card or red chests teleport you there and I done hosed up? Once you get Undefined you have a pretty good chance of getting into I Am Error. Which isn't a great thing always. I had a fantastic run going and I picked that thing up, got I Am Error like three times and thus skipped those floors. The run kinda faltered after that. The Joker card just has a 100% chance of a devil/angel room but I'm pretty sure you have a chance at getting into them with a regular teleport.
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Nov 19, 2014 06:23
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Kaethela posted:How the gently caress do you do Cat Got Your Tongue? I can't swing this stupid hairball without bumping into enemies every single time. The trick to getting range on the hairball is to keep it swinging. You should always be moving in small circles to keep it fully extended, and swing it like a mace. Think of it like a ball and chain weapon - you gotta keep it swinging to keep it extended until the opportune moment and then slam it into whatever you're fighting. Don't try to just run up from a full stop to whatever and slap it with your hairball, you have to wait for your opportune moment where the front swing of your hairball lines up with a moment where you can step forward to slam it into the face of whatever is getting near you. It's hard to explain, but really the trick is to constantly walk in small circles to keep the ball moving. I cleared Cat Got Your Tongue on my first try with nothing spectacular for items - possibly even bad items (no speed ups, no HP ups, I don't think I ever got a soul or devil heart, no brimstone or dark bum or anything that trivializes the no-tear challenges) and cleared it comfortably. Once you kill a couple enemies with the hairball and it gets big it does tons of damage to anything it touches. A good swipe at one of the doors on Mom was knocking off 20-25% of her HP once my hairball was fully charged. The worst part of the floor is fighting enemies that die to a tap from the ball and a fly before you get any corpses added to your hairball - fly kills don't build your hairball and building up your hairball is vital to clearing floors. This weekend I'll make a short video/gif showing what I mean about small circles to keep it swinging.
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Nov 19, 2014 06:24
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Krinkle posted:I've teleported to the devil room before. I know I have. I just killed krampus and he dropped his head. I want it. But also I wanted to find the i am error room on purpose for once and I had a broken teleporter and a remote detonator so I can teleport for free as much as I want. I've been teleporting for what feels like forever and I haven't teleported to I am error and I haven't teleported back to the devil room and the door has disappeared. Can only the joker card or red chests teleport you there and I done hosed up? I"m pretty sure Devil Room does only come from the Joker card and red chests. I'm almost positive that you can't get I Am Error from broken remote also, at least in my hundreds of teleports with it I haven't. Also, apparently Mutant Spider + Ludevico on Azazel reduces your damage to one and it takes forever to kill anything.
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Nov 19, 2014 06:28
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Magres posted:The trick to getting range on the hairball is to keep it swinging. You should always be moving in small circles to keep it fully extended, and swing it like a mace. Think of it like a ball and chain weapon - you gotta keep it swinging to keep it extended until the opportune moment and then slam it into whatever you're fighting. It's worth noting that the hairball blocks bullets. You also want speed upgrades. Speed upgrades are key in trivialising this challenge, as the increased speed also increases the range/movement speed of your hairball. If you get a pill that lowers your movement speed, just restart the challenge, it's over. I was forced to replay this challenge after the game/steam cloud wiped my save. The first time beating this challenge was a huge pain. The second time I got four speed upgrades, dozens of soul hearts and health upgrades and a chaos card at the end. It was pretty cathartic.
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Nov 19, 2014 06:43
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Okay, I straight-up don't have the wrist fortitude for a Chocolate Milk run. As fun as it is to get all "Fist of the North Star" on bosses, four floors of raw mashing just wears me out.
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Nov 19, 2014 06:51
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The Bee posted:Anyone complaining about Dingle when Gurdy "No Telegraph No Animation Just Open Mouth and Ping-Pong Around Room" Jr. is in this game honestly confuses me. Gurdy is one of the easier bosses. As soon as she dips her head in, just strafe to a different compass point. Never get hit again. Dingle is arguably harder than Gurdy.
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Nov 19, 2014 06:53
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goodness posted:Gurdy is one of the easier bosses. As soon as she dips her head in, just strafe to a different compass point. Never get hit again. Dingle is arguably harder than Gurdy. Gurdy Jr., not Gurdy. Gurdy herself depending on my movespeed and attentiveness ranges from really easy to a bit annoying.
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Nov 19, 2014 06:55
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gurdy jr. is a different boss and is the one that instantly dashes at people, which makes it hard to avoid
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Nov 19, 2014 06:55
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goodness posted:Gurdy is one of the easier bosses. As soon as she dips her head in, just strafe to a different compass point. Never get hit again. Dingle is arguably harder than Gurdy. That post was about Gurdy jr who just cold charges at you and bounces off walls in ways that are difficult to predict. edit: I am way too late on this
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Nov 19, 2014 06:55
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Gurdy Jr. is a real rear end in a top hat, but you can kill it easily without taking a hit as long as you stay as far away as possible. Once it starts slowing down, make sure you're on the far side of the room from it. That'll give you ample time to react when the little prick starts spazzing out.
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Nov 19, 2014 06:59
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Rocketlex posted:Okay, I straight-up don't have the wrist fortitude for a Chocolate Milk run. As fun as it is to get all "Fist of the North Star" on bosses, four floors of raw mashing just wears me out. Just charge up the shots with chocolate milk. It charges up pretty quickly and you can 1-2 shot most enemies with it. I'm pretty sure mashing buttons only sends out a bunch of no damage tears anyways.
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Nov 19, 2014 07:00
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 gently caress you forever game gently caress you
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Nov 19, 2014 07:10
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AnonSpore posted:
drat, that's mighty impressive.  Congrats.
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Nov 19, 2014 07:12
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AnonSpore posted:
now you can have fun again. congratulations.
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Nov 19, 2014 07:13
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Gurdy Jr. is an rear end in a top hat when you first see him. Then you get to the chest and enter a tiny room filled with two of them. They bounce off the walls and each other so fast its nearly impossible to avoid them. gently caress those rooms.AnonSpore posted:
Think you're the first person in this thread to actually do this without cheating.
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Nov 19, 2014 07:14
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At least the blue Gurdy Jrs are small and have little health to make up for having to deal with 2 of them at a time.
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Nov 19, 2014 07:18
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Internet Kraken posted:Gurdy Jr. is an rear end in a top hat when you first see him. Then you get to the chest and enter a tiny room filled with two of them. They bounce off the walls and each other so fast its nearly impossible to avoid them. gently caress those rooms. i completed my lost runs a few days ago actually. not to take the wind out of that guys sails or anything, that's an impressive accomplishment no matter how long it takes you.
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Nov 19, 2014 07:28
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Speaking of the Gurdy family, thoughts on the Gurdlings and Mama Gurdy? The former seem kinda annoying but weak enough to be not so troubling when they start filling floors on later levels, and I haven't encountered Mama enough to really make any assumptions.
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Nov 19, 2014 07:29
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The Bee posted:Speaking of the Gurdy family, thoughts on the Gurdlings and Mama Gurdy? The former seem kinda annoying but weak enough to be not so troubling when they start filling floors on later levels, and I haven't encountered Mama enough to really make any assumptions. Mama's piss easy if you can fly and still fairly easy if you can't. The lings don't even get a life bar if you fight them outside the basement 
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Nov 19, 2014 07:31
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mama gurdy's spike attacks is pretty bullshit from what i've seen but i've had such OP combos every time i've fought her that i don't really have much of an opinion on what her overall difficulty is like. gurdlings are annoying but i'll take them over gurdy jr. any day of the week.
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Nov 19, 2014 07:31
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dis astranagant posted:At least the blue Gurdy Jrs are small and have little health to make up for having to deal with 2 of them at a time. And those ones give you a soul heart at the end!
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Nov 19, 2014 07:32
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AHungryRobot posted:mama gurdy's spike attacks is pretty bullshit from what i've seen but i've had such OP combos every time i've fought her that i don't really have much of an opinion on what her overall difficulty is like. gurdlings are annoying but i'll take them over gurdy jr. any day of the week.
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