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This discussion reminded me of the Doe Network, where you can view very disturbing reconstructions of unidentified persons, but as I scrolled down the page I noticed this very good picture, and there's apparently some living persons included on the Doe Network: http://doenetwork.org/cases/1007umga.html Here's his wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjaman_Kyle Normally this sort of amnesia/fugue state things can be sort of suspect in a 'faked one's own death' manner, but for some reason this guy's story and description feels real. note: looking at the other pictures if you go back to the archive can be really unnerving. The one right above this case is very strange. doug fuckey has a new favorite as of 20:45 on Nov 16, 2014 |
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The "reconstructed" faces are some of the creepiest I've seen.     You know what? Just.. just stay missing. Please. 
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karl fungus posted:The "reconstructed" faces are some of the creepiest I've seen. Lol irl.
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Reading through that missing persons link I saw this:quote:2003 Felipe Santos (24) Last seen being arrested for driving without a license after a traffic accident early on October 1 outside Naples, Florida by Collier County sheriff's deputy Steve Calkins. Jail records show he was never booked. Calkins claimed to have changed his mind and left Santos at a nearby Circle K convenience store. Three months later, another man, Terrance Williams, disappeared after being arrested by the same police officer. quote:2004 If I ever go to Florida I'll be sure to drive around Collier County instead of through it.  
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Nov 17, 2014 07:39
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Bompacho posted:If I ever go to Florida I'll be sure to drive around Collier County instead of through it. Please tell me murder cop is still on the force.
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Nov 17, 2014 08:28
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:Please tell me murder cop is still on the force. Surprisingly he isn't! Truly, it was a different time.
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Bompacho posted:If I ever go to Florida I'll be sure to drive around Collier County instead of through it.  Seriously though, that's hosed up.
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Nov 17, 2014 14:49
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Pilchenstein posted:So there's a Circle K somewhere that's just full of bodies? Strange things are afoot at the Circle K...
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Mr. Flunchy posted:Strange things are afoot at the Circle K... Apparently my brain thinks Clerks jokes are funny again. 
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Nov 18, 2014 01:31
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bonestructure posted:Apparently my brain thinks Clerks jokes are funny again.  ?
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Nah, I'm just dumb.
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I have a request if nobody minds. A while back, maybe in the last creepy thread, somebody posted this awesome article. http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2010/12/vanishing-blonde-201012Vanity Fair posted:After a woman living in a hotel in Florida was raped, viciously beaten, and left for dead near the Everglades in 2005, the police investigation quickly went cold. But when the victim sued the Airport Regency, the hotels private detective, Ken Brennan, became obsessed with the case: how had the 21-year-old blonde disappeared from her room, unseen by security cameras? The author follows Brennans trail as the P.I. worked a chilling hunch that would lead him to other states, other crimes, and a man nobody else suspected. I was wondering if anybody knew of any similar articles or stories of dead end crimes/murders and cold cases that ended up getting solved by obsessed detectives. I find this kind of thing super fascinating and am really interested in reading similar stories if anybody knows of any? In particular I'm interested in how a case got solved rather than some article that goes into depth about how gory a murder was.
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Dr Scoofles posted:I have a request if nobody minds. A while back, maybe in the last creepy thread, somebody posted this awesome article. http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2010/12/vanishing-blonde-201012 quote:I was wondering if anybody knew of any similar articles or stories of dead end crimes/murders and cold cases that ended up getting solved by obsessed detectives. I find this kind of thing super fascinating and am really interested in reading similar stories if anybody knows of any? In particular I'm interested in how a case got solved rather than some article that goes into depth about how gory a murder was. You may already know of it, but the first thing that comes to mind is the Cameron Todd Willingham story, whereby a woman becomes the penpal of a death row inmate and ends up doing her own investigation to try and clear his name.
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Dr Scoofles posted:I have a request if nobody minds. A while back, maybe in the last creepy thread, somebody posted this awesome article. http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2010/12/vanishing-blonde-201012 That was a hell of a read. I love how cases like this always end up solved by some noir-esque gumshoe with a tic for solving mysteries. I'd like to read more stories too. This seems like the kind of thing that would be on a book compilation. Does one exist?
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Dr Scoofles posted:I was wondering if anybody knew of any similar articles or stories of dead end crimes/murders... If you want one that doesn't get solved I can recommend My Dark Places. It's James Ellroy's investigation into his own mother's murder, and is a very well written book.
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Dr Scoofles posted:I have a request if nobody minds. A while back, maybe in the last creepy thread, somebody posted this awesome article. http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2010/12/vanishing-blonde-201012 Echoing that this was a stellar article. Any more like it? I liked the way it was written- long but to the point, kinda like watching Dateline or 60 Minutes or something.
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New Leaf posted:Echoing that this was a stellar article. Any more like it? I liked the way it was written- long but to the point, kinda like watching Dateline or 60 Minutes or something. It's not exactly the same, but this is a really nice (and heartbreaking) write-up on the victims of Dean Correll.
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Nov 18, 2014 18:55
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bonestructure posted:Nah, I'm just dumb. New Leaf posted:Echoing that this was a stellar article. Any more like it? I liked the way it was written- long but to the point, kinda like watching Dateline or 60 Minutes or something.
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Dr Scoofles posted:I have a request if nobody minds. A while back, maybe in the last creepy thread, somebody posted this awesome article. http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2010/12/vanishing-blonde-201012 You might be interested in Serial, though it's about a crime that was already "solved": quote:At the beginning of episode one, Koenig says, For the last year, Ive spent every working day trying to figure out where a high-school kid was for an hour after school one day in 1999. She says that shes had to ask unsavory questions about a group of teens relationships, sex lives, and drug habits. And Im not a detective, or a private investigator, or even a crime reporter, she adds. Her objective is to find the truth behind a conviction whose evidence was scarce and which put a teen-ager in prison for life. Last year, Koenig was contacted by a woman named Rabia Chaudry, who had read some articles that Koenig had written years ago in the Baltimore Sun, about a defense attorney who was disbarred in 2001 and who later died. That attorney had represented Chaudrys friend Adnan Syed, who in 1999 was convicted of killing his ex-girlfriend, Hae Min Lee. Chaudry, who has always believed Syed to be innocent, thought that the attorney had mishandled the caseperhaps even thrown itand asked Koenig to take a look. She agreed, and that turned into the investigation that became Serial.
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Nouvelle Vague posted:It's not exactly the same, but this is a really nice (and heartbreaking) write-up on the victims of Dean Correll. That was a good read, too. Yikes, I can't even imagine doing what his accomplices did at that age. What the gently caress?
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Nov 18, 2014 21:38
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Nouvelle Vague posted:It's not exactly the same, but this is a really nice (and heartbreaking) write-up on the victims of Dean Correll. What always gets me about Corll is that everything about him is so awful (the enormous number of murders, the possibility he was involved in a wider Texas sex slave ring, that horrifying photograph of one of the still-unknown victims), yet I had never heard about him until the last incarnation of this thread. You see books and TV specials about Ted Bundy or BTK or Dahmer, but not this guy.
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I wanted to do a write up on Brandon Teena, but I got halfway before I felt too awful to continue. If you want the short, its about a trans man who was raped and murdered in the nineties. There was a movie called "Boys Don't Cry" made about him and the incident, but I couldn't finish it due to being horrifying for me.
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Brainbread posted:I wanted to do a write up on Brandon Teena, but I got halfway before I felt too awful to continue. If you want the short, its about a trans man who was raped and murdered in the nineties. There was a movie called "Boys Don't Cry" made about him and the incident, but I couldn't finish it due to being horrifying for me. Probably sounds dumb but I was struck by how her family don't even acknowledge he was transgender and just say "oh she was a lesbian"
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Dr Scoofles posted:I was wondering if anybody knew of any similar articles or stories of dead end crimes/murders and cold cases that ended up getting solved by obsessed detectives. I find this kind of thing super fascinating and am really interested in reading similar stories if anybody knows of any? In particular I'm interested in how a case got solved rather than some article that goes into depth about how gory a murder was. Not exactly, but here's some related stuff: * About the birth of modern forensic crime-solving: http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...ing.single.html * Someone (I think it was The Awl but I can't find the article) wrote a longform piece on the Lake Tahoe casino bombing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey%27s_Resort_Hotel_bombing) that has a lot on how the police handled the crime. * I seem to remember the detective in the original story you quoted was involved in another case that was quite similar. * A few others: http://stephenjdubner.com/journalism/silverthief.html http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/magazine/hunt-for-a-serial-killer.html nonathlon has a new favorite as of 22:18 on Nov 18, 2014 |
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Try Longform.org, especially http://longform.org/crime for crime articles. Some I've enjoyed recently: http://www.oxfordamerican.org/articles/2014/nov/06/issue-86-no-twang-conscience-whatever/ http://www.laweekly.com/informer/2014/10/15/harry-major-took-in-ex-cons-for-sex-and-friendship-then-he-turned-up-dead?showFullText=true http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2003/09/29/a-hundred-women http://www.elle.com/life-love/society-career/skylar-neese-disappearance-twitter http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/crimelaw/features/5646/ ChickenOfTomorrow has a new favorite as of 22:54 on Nov 18, 2014 |
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jalopybrown posted:Probably sounds dumb but I was struck by how her family don't even acknowledge he was transgender and just say "oh she was a lesbian" To me, the scariest part is just how many trans people are killed every year, especially poor black and Hispanic transwomen. This week is Transgender Week of Remembrance, actually, so if nothing else see if a group in your area is holding a candlelight vigil.
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Aphra Bane posted:You may already know of it, but the first thing that comes to mind is the Cameron Todd Willingham story, whereby a woman becomes the penpal of a death row inmate and ends up doing her own investigation to try and clear his name. Wasn't the ending I was expecting. I feel like I just got suckerpunched in the gut.
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^^^ Right there with ya.   Aphra Bane posted:You may already know of it, but the first thing that comes to mind is the Cameron Todd Willingham story, whereby a woman becomes the penpal of a death row inmate and ends up doing her own investigation to try and clear his name. This was an excellent read and completely heartbreaking. Thank you for sharing. Wiggy Marie has a new favorite as of 03:56 on Nov 19, 2014 |
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Lemme just give you both a few kicks to the ribs while you're down then. quote:Multiple former Hutchison advisers recalled asking a focus group about the charge that Perry may have presided over the execution of an innocent man Cameron Todd Willingham and got this response from a primary voter: It takes balls to execute an innocent man.
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karl fungus posted:The "reconstructed" faces are some of the creepiest I've seen. Next time you're on the site, if you REALLY want to ruin your own day, check the number of unidentified 0-3's.
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Dr Scoofles posted:I have a request if nobody minds. A while back, maybe in the last creepy thread, somebody posted this awesome article. http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2010/12/vanishing-blonde-201012 It's been posted in the last thread, and perhaps in this thread already, but The Hunt for the Death Valley Germans kept me so hooked on reading all of it for hours until I finished it. The same guy has a few other of his documented ventures on his site, one being Searching for Norman Cox, which is shorter, but just as gripping.
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I'm slowly working my way through the articles people are posting.Nouvelle Vague posted:It's not exactly the same, but this is a really nice (and heartbreaking) write-up on the victims of Dean Correll. This is an amazing article, and heart breaking is the word. I just can't wrap my head around the behaviour of the authorities throughout this, at first completely uninterested and then downright obstructive towards the families and the investigation in some hosed up attempt to cover their own asses, save face and score points against homosexuality. I can't believe even to this day people are still not digging out the rest of that storage shed, I mean, why the gently caress wouldn't they  FourLeaf posted:You might be interested in Serial, though it's about a crime that was already "solved": I just listened to the first episode and I'm absolutely hooked. This is the exact sort of thing I was looking for, it just never occurred to me it would be in this format. I'm off to make dinner and get the second episode rolling, I'm genuinely excited to see where this goes. Cheers.
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Aphra Bane posted:You may already know of it, but the first thing that comes to mind is the Cameron Todd Willingham story, whereby a woman becomes the penpal of a death row inmate and ends up doing her own investigation to try and clear his name. Echoing the sentiments of other, this nearly brought me to tears. I read it last night and I'm still thinking about it. I can't believe Rick Perry manages to constantly outdo himself in my expectations for how horrible one man can be.
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2003/09/29/a-hundred-women  I think that's enough internet for today. Praseodymi posted:Echoing the sentiments of other, this nearly brought me to tears. I read it last night and I'm still thinking about it. I can't believe Rick Perry manages to constantly outdo himself in my expectations for how horrible one man can be. Oh, I definitely was in tears the first time I read it. What still gets me now is the car crash. Terrible for her of course, but it's also so outrageously horrible that he had to go out without knowing the reason for her absence. Fate squeezing in one last "gently caress you" 
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Nouvelle Vague posted:It's not exactly the same, but this is a really nice (and heartbreaking) write-up on the victims of Dean Correll. This was excellent, loving sad, and frustrating to read. It's pretty terrifying how Corrll was able to manipulate 2 seemingly normal teens to do horrible things and I cannot believe how everything was just sort of brushed off by the police. Even afterwards, everyone wanted to pretend like this huge crime never happened. I never even heard about it until I read this article.
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Another messed up thing about the Corll case is that his house in Pasadena wasn't torn down like so many other killers' houses are. It's still there. Someone lives in it, maybe unaware of its history. They never even dug up the property to see if there was anything there.
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VidaGrey posted:This was excellent, loving sad, and frustrating to read. It's pretty terrifying how Corrll was able to manipulate 2 seemingly normal teens to do horrible things and I cannot believe how everything was just sort of brushed off by the police. Even afterwards, everyone wanted to pretend like this huge crime never happened. I never even heard about it until I read this article. The article pointed out that part of the reason it didn't get attention is because right around that time there were a few other serial killers who were caught and ended up on television and having very public trials(Bundy, Berkowitz). Corll was dead and there weren't even very many pictures of him, so it wasn't as good a story for the media to run with as a guy like Bundy who was a complete ham.
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Basebf555 posted:The article pointed out that part of the reason it didn't get attention is because right around that time there were a few other serial killers who were caught and ended up on television and having very public trials(Bundy, Berkowitz). Corll was dead and there weren't even very many pictures of him, so it wasn't as good a story for the media to run with as a guy like Bundy who was a complete ham. There's a pretty interesting book called Serial Killers by Peter Vronsky that gets into this. It's actually pretty common for a serial killer to be ignored if he operates in an area not covered by its own regional media. There was a guy in Poughkeepsie, New York who killed something like ten people, but there was never any news about it because Poughkeepsie is between major media markets. Even the guy who made the pretty lovely Poughkeepsie Tapes film seemingly had no idea there was a real serial killer at large there when he was making his movie.
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Gatekeeper posted:Wasn't the ending I was expecting. I feel like I just got suckerpunched in the gut. A little over a decade ago I briefly took on an Innocence Project-type murder case where it was painfully obvious the client had been set-up by the actual killers, who made plea bargains to hand-slap deals to testify against the client. Cartoonishly bad. And after he was convicted, the previous attorney on the case had found an eyewitness who said the client wasn't there, but that was found unreliable because the witness had been in jail for marijuana possession a few months after the crime (which was why they couldn't find him for the trial). Appeal denied, habeas denied, all legal avenues exhausted, wasn't jack poo poo I could do because there was no DNA evidence for people to get excited about. No one gave a poo poo about this dude because it was in Flint, Michigan and they have a billion other things to bother themselves with. I continue to write letters to his parole board every time he comes up. His last attempt was denied. He will die in jail, having spent a majority of his life in there. The suckerpunch feeling doesn't go away.
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