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SunAndSpring posted:He sounds rather depressed. The Trial of Vivec was some bullshit, but this line V says about sotha sil always got me: "How does one feel when weighted down by their heaviest of mysteries? When one gazes into their soul and sees their own eyes staring back? Perhaps it's how my brother felt, folding into himself like a prism until your darts were thrown, nymic sel sulimet elhnodidan, thought thinking thought."
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Captain Scandinaiva posted:Also rice hats, paper lanterns, katanas and this: Also, the multiple Tongs and the comical xenophobia.
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Rexicon1 posted:Also, lol if you don't kill vivec every time. What a piece of poo poo he was. That levitation thing? Complete bullshit. It was just a complex system of wires and pulleys being worked from the ceiling by Khajit and Argonian slaves.
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Nov 19, 2014 11:22
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I always thought the Tsaesci and Akaviri were the east asian analogues or at least the japanese ones. I guess I can see morrowind as China with all of the noble houses and poo poo planted and supported by the empire.
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this is pretty minor but morrowind's the only game in the series where i try to think of how certain characters would react to certain events almalexia was probably like "hell yeah i'm unique" about the chimer change and vivec doesn't give a poo poo about anything. the reaction i'm most curious about is divayth fyr almalexia/vivec/sotha sil usually seem to represent "hell yeah"/"idgaf"/"maybe we should think about this"
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dear diary: today the guards got real suspicious of me and i can't think of why, and one of my servants wouldn't stop trying to scrub me. perplexing. - divayth fyr oh dang i know what happened now i need to go to a place where i fit in more: hammerfell. - divayth fyr DO NOT TRY TO BE A WIZARD IN HAMMERFELL. -divayth fyr went to morrowind and experienced muatra. i hope vivvy calls back -divayth fyr
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SunAndSpring posted:Without feet, he may come back from any land, and without a face, he may come back as any race.  jesus christ this game is amazingseriously how much for an art book
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Why did they kill him in a way that they knew would (supposedly) let him come back?
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Mortimer posted:
also pierced with muatra so he can come back as any gender
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Geoff Zahn posted:Why did they kill him in a way that they knew would (supposedly) let him come back? It was determined already that he would return. They did it because causality compelled them to do so.
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Geoff Zahn posted:Why did they kill him in a way that they knew would (supposedly) let him come back? CHIM no really, they might have killed him any number of ways but when Vivec achieved CHIM there's nothing stopping it from have happening any way Vivec wanted, or not at all
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Nov 19, 2014 21:07
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keep that milk finger to yourself unless you're using it to keep nord warlords from utlizing their thu'um
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Minarchist posted:CHIM You have to remember that, by mantling Nerevar, you fulfilled and retroactively validated the prophecies. They may have been bullshit when they started, but you made them true. So, in order for the prophecy to work, Nerevar has got to have that stuff happen to him as he's killed so he can come back as an outlander of any race and gender. So it's basically a stable time loop.
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Nov 19, 2014 21:49
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It didn't have to happen as Vivec wanted because if there's anything a CHIMmer can't pass up it's a good story. Going against it would defeat the point of CHIM because I and all are we something something kirkbride
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Strategic Tea posted:It didn't have to happen as Vivec wanted because if there's anything a CHIMmer can't pass up it's a good story. Going against it would defeat the point of CHIM because I and all are we something something kirkbride yeah, this is the impression I got as well. Anyone got that post linking the Morrowind CD and one of Vivec's sermons? It's the one about the wheel being viewed side on etc - I think it was in this thread ...
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WINNERSH TRIANGLE posted:yeah, this is the impression I got as well. It can also be interpreted as a 0 becoming a 1, which is the basis of binary coding.
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saying that there is a prophecy that someone somewhere at sometime is going to kill a bunch of dudes is a really lame prophecy, gently caress the ashlanders and their lazy rear end soothsaying. in general, the ashlanders were a bunch of manipulative desperate shitheads that deserved zero respect. loving wipe them out and let vvardenfel finally progress *red mountain explodes* hel yes
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Nov 19, 2014 22:50
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Ah I didn't know it was already known he would return. I just assumed it came afterwards. God every day I find something more out about the storyline, I don't think any other game has this many layers to it. Shame it doesn't happen in gaming more often, and its a shame that a lot of people who played Morrowind don't even grasp how much depth it has.
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Rexicon1 posted:saying that there is a prophecy that someone somewhere at sometime is going to kill a bunch of dudes is a really lame prophecy, gently caress the ashlanders and their lazy rear end soothsaying. thats racist we should celebrate their culture the wise-women know many profound things we imperials have forgotten
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they herd random firey beetles that give out gunk that's worth 50 septims per handful while the plantation "cash crops" like corkbulb retail for a paltry 5 sounds p advanced to me
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http://www.imperial-library.info/content/nu-mantia-intercept I like how Hasphat Antabolis (the guy you gave the Dwemer puzzle box to) and Divayth Fyr are members of or at the very least affiliated with the Elder Council of the Empire.
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so i went to their page on daedric alpabet andquote:Vehk, Ayem and Seht?  i got almsivi but this went straight over my head
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scalded schlong posted:they herd random firey beetles that give out gunk that's worth 50 septims per handful while the plantation "cash crops" like corkbulb retail for a paltry 5 Its simple supply and demand, Corkbulb is so cheap because its grown on plantations and raised with slave labor while tribals don't know poo poo about proper harvesting on a mass scale so beetle gunk has an inflated price.
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grate deceiver posted:so i went to their page on daedric alpabet and wait what? I'm having trouble understanding why this is a mindfuck or something wasn't vivec's original name just "vehk"?
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grate deceiver posted:so i went to their page on daedric alpabet and Huh I never knew that either.
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It's spelled right out for you, literally, on the flags outside Temples:
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Same.
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Serious post has there ever been another game with this much lore behind it and this interesting of a world?
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GreatGreen posted:Serious post has there ever been another game with this much lore behind it and this interesting of a world? actual answer: look at how many games kirkbride has had creative control over thats how many are this deep
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GreatGreen posted:Serious post has there ever been another game with this much lore behind it and this interesting of a world? I don't think so. Dragon Age tried, but that series is in the gutter now. Don;t even know why people even loving bought DA:I, it looks like garbage in all aspects.
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SunAndSpring posted:I don't think so. Dragon Age tried, a bit of an exaggeration there
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Man Whore posted:
elf on elf racism is one of tamriel's great tragedies
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Man Whore posted:
At least the horse won't try to eat you after you die.
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GreatGreen posted:Serious post has there ever been another game with this much lore behind it and this interesting of a world? I never played the games in the Glorantha setting, but MK was asked basically the same question, and he said gloranta.
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Mortimer posted:wait what? ayem sekt and vehk are the daedric letters a s v its their initials SunAndSpring posted:Dragon Age tried are you kidding me, its always been an uninspired lotr clone. there's like a handful of things that kinda might have been interesting if some competent people worked it, but in reality never go anywhere
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TresTristesTigres posted:I never played the games in the Glorantha setting, but MK was asked basically the same question, and he said gloranta. I think there's only one video game set in Glorantha, but it's a very good one called King of Dragon Pass. In fact, a lot of concepts from Glorantha and the Rune Quest tabletop game transferred over to Morrowind because Ken Rolston was one of the devs for Glorantha. Mantling is similar to heroquesting, in which a heroic individual enters the divine realm and becomes a god for a little while by emulating their godly deeds. Glorantha also paid a lot of attention towards making unique and interesting cultures, which again was done starting with Daggerfall and Redguard. Even the mechanics from Morrowind are borrowed; a lot of it relies on percentile dice being thrown in the background, and RuneQuest relied on d100s.
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grate deceiver posted:are you kidding me, its always been an uninspired lotr clone. its mostly just a western europe+england allegory
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01011001 posted:its mostly just a western europe+england allegory ya, its a lazy idea and also shittily executed what was the last fantasy rpg released that didnt have any dragons in it. im willing to bet it was actually morrowind
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Morrowind had dragons, they were just invisible.
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grate deceiver posted:ya, its a lazy idea and also shittily executed you would definitely lose that bet lol
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