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Reveilled posted:Canada has followed the most pro-federal even options it gets, to be honest. It has kept away from Alaska and guaranteed the safety of New England without satelliting them (which will lead to peaceful reunion if the federals win, I believe). If you were playing Canada and trying to get the USA into the Entente, this is the way to do it, since most of the time the federals win, in my experience. The actual way is to annex all the civil war factions and release USA as a puppet.
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GrossMurpel posted:The actual way is to annex all the civil war factions and release USA as a puppet. When I did that, I was very disappointed to find that I could not crown Edward VIII as King of America.
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GSD posted:When I did that, I was very disappointed to find that I could not crown Edward VIII as King of America. Honestly, that's really a shame. One of the magical things about Kaiserreich is that it is a playground of lost causes, where stillborn ideas and philosophies condemned to the dustbin of history are resurrected in joyfully improbable ways. Restoring the Crown to America would by no means be the unlikeliest thing that can happen in KR. (Strategy talk: When I play as Canada, I always make sure to clobber the Americans. I need their IC and manpower desperately - both from occupation during the war and as a puppet later.)
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Rogue0071 posted:The short version of it is that one of the main creators of the mod was a syndicalist (which historically was a tendency mostly limited to France, Spain, and small groups in Italy, and the French branch got largely wiped out during WW1) and thought it would be cool for socialism to be alt hist/differently named and their pet tendency to be dominant. I always wondered if something like this was the case. It's hard to imagine a mod like this being made by someone who wasn't very sympathetic to leftism, it's quite different in character to the nationalist 1000-year Serbian Empire type games I associate Paradox playthroughs with.
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I gotta ask, is there any way the Federals can hold on to the East coast? I thought I'd try as the Feds, and I even made sure to let the elections continue so that I had some more time to build divisions, but there are just too many AUS and CSA divisions that just pop into existence the instant the Civil War starts. Do I just need to resign myself to seeing Washington get taking by dirty Reds or Fascists, and counter-attacking from the West?
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Friar John posted:I gotta ask, is there any way the Federals can hold on to the East coast? I thought I'd try as the Feds, and I even made sure to let the elections continue so that I had some more time to build divisions, but there are just too many AUS and CSA divisions that just pop into existence the instant the Civil War starts. Do I just need to resign myself to seeing Washington get taking by dirty Reds or Fascists, and counter-attacking from the West? Most successful ai federals I see do lose the east coast and end up rolling up whoever is left from the west, provided they don't have to deal with the PSA or Mexico. The east is too much of a potential trap, better to let the CSA and AUS smash each other up first.
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Friar John posted:I gotta ask, is there any way the Federals can hold on to the East coast? I thought I'd try as the Feds, and I even made sure to let the elections continue so that I had some more time to build divisions, but there are just too many AUS and CSA divisions that just pop into existence the instant the Civil War starts. Do I just need to resign myself to seeing Washington get taking by dirty Reds or Fascists, and counter-attacking from the West? I played the USA one time and won the civil war by drawing a circle around Washington and putting all my units there. It makes for a tiny front that you can easily defend and expand and the CSA and AUS end up fighting each other more than you.
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GrossMurpel posted:I played the USA one time and won the civil war by drawing a circle around Washington and putting all my units there. It makes for a tiny front that you can easily defend and expand and the CSA and AUS end up fighting each other more than you. The thing that makes this strategy really good is the same thing that made my fight as the AUS against the CSA after we split the mainland between us really easy - national provinces. The revolter states only get the provinces they start with as national provinces (full IC/MP), everything else is occupation (counts as "foreign", not nearly as strong), so I ended up abandoning the entirety of land from New Mexico to Louisiana, the CSA fell in, leaving their northern frontier weakened and allowing me to strike, ending with us splitting the mainland again, but this time in an east-west divide through Illinois, leaving the CSA with only about 10 IC and severely crippled. Starting from Washington and abandoning the rest of the USA would have the same effect - you can strike hard at the core territories while they try to expand into land they can't realize is worthless compared to their core provinces.
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I usually ignore everything west of the Mississippi and try to cut the CSA in half around Ohio as soon as possible. That gives me a bit more breathing room while I reduce the pocket in the north and hold the line against the AUS. It really helps if the PSA decides to rejoin the union because they bring their entire OOB with them when they do.
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Grizzwold posted:I usually ignore everything west of the Mississippi and try to cut the CSA in half around Ohio as soon as possible. That gives me a bit more breathing room while I reduce the pocket in the north and hold the line against the AUS. It really helps if the PSA decides to rejoin the union because they bring their entire OOB with them when they do. Don't you always inherit the other factions' units? At least in my AUS game, I remember reloading because USA got to Chicago first when I was like 2 hours out and when I reloaded and got there first, I got all the units CSA had standing around.
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Chapter Five: Sherman's Ghost (January 1937 - February 1937) If you look at the timing, you can tell that I got addicted to Divinity: Original Sin this week. Back on schedule. Welcome back to the Stories of Revolution internet archive from the Smithsonian! The archive is being continuously expanded to incorporate entries from later stages of the Revolution. Keep checking back and utilize our search feature to discover if a revolutionary you know of is in our archive.  Hayden Collins, Distinguished Service Star, Hero of International Labour, Second Class, Transatlantic Expeditionary Force It's been a few weeks since we crossed the border to North Carolina and the difference between federal and Union State territory is pretty apparent. We saw the streams of black refugees pouring north through Virginia as we advanced towards the Union State lines. Now we've seen what they left behind.  The black southerners have lived in entirely different communities than the white southerners, which I had heard plenty about from the commissar. I suppose I just didn't expect it to be so blatant. Separate water fountains and other such insanity. We've since crossed over into South Carolina, which is even worse. We had to cut down a boy of no more than thirteen from an oak branch yesterday. Gruesome business.  We've had to deal with some Union State opposition, nothing too serious since they were already on the run from the Benjamin Franklin Corps when we engaged them.  There's not much stopping us from securing both Carolinas at this point. The Benjamin Franklin Corps is moving on to Charleston. Charleston is an important symbolic and strategic city for the Southerners, with its historic role in the beginning of the first American Civil War as well as its port and airfields.  It's nothing compared to the real prize in the South: Atlanta. It is maddeningly close.  Douglas Wright, Order of Valor, First Class, Lake Erie Corps I've got to be honest, I am pretty disappointed at the moment. After all the poo poo we've been through marching south through these mountains to get out of the cold, now we've had to go all the back north again. As we've learned, there is such a thing as a federal loyalist, and a whole slew of them rose up behind our lines in Charlottesville after we left.  We booted them out of there easy enough but then the bastards went even further north into West Virginia. We could have spent this whole time marching towards Atlanta.  At least we made the trip back north by train to Pittsburgh instead of trying to chase these guys on foot through the whole Appalachian range. And we didn't give them any breaks either. Hopefully that will keep the rest of these federalists in line. They had their chance to fix this poo poo heap, now its our turn. It's just a shame that we have to go back north when we were so close to Asheville. Hopefully nobody else gets to that Vanderbilt mansion before we do.  Marcus Sloan, Medal of Honor, St. Paul Syndicate Guard Well after weeks of griping from the boys, they can finally shut up about how we haven't gotten a fight. Certainly things had been quite dull since the Milwaukee boys busted us out of the prison camp in Minneapolis. Omaha, Des Moines, Lincoln, a whole lot of nothing in between.  The federals finally showed up in Kansas City and apparently our boys have captured some Union State bombers to keep the federals on the wrong foot.  I've heard war described as months of boredom punctuated by moments of sheer terror. Our moment came when we got to Lincoln last week. As soon as we arrived, we were set upon by the National Guard. The ones most eager to fight had the most scared looks on their faces and unfortunately we lost a few.  The National Guard's advances subsided after a few days. We're finally linking up with the attack west from Saint Louis. It's a much better situation now than it was earlier this week.  Now we've had a few days without any sign of federals in Lincoln. Reports over the radio are that Kansas City is the hot spot right now. I wish them luck but I'll admit, I'm happy for the boredom right now. It won't be long until we move on, either to Kansas City or Denver. I hear Denver is nice. Maybe then I can allow myself to hope this is almost over.  Leon Thomas, Silver Star, Purple Heart, Order of Architects of the Revolution, First Class, Abraham Lincoln Corps Dear Minnie, I hope everybody in Chicago is doing well. We are doing fine down here, giving the Union State a taste of their own medicine. We kicked their rear end in [REDACTED] with help from comrades in [REDACTED] and [REDACTED].  I never relished having to leave you and our son to do this, but I'll admit I was a little excited to cross over into [REDACTED]. It's been so very long since I've seen this place, even though we've been in Chicago all these years, it's here that truly feels like home.  I went to where we used to live. It had been taken over by the Union State as a supply depot, and our own planes bombed the whole town to hell. There was nobody left living there and the houses that didn't get hit look like they're about to fall down from neglect anyway.  Honestly, Minnie, the Union State is almost finished. Our comrades to the [REDACTED] are moving into position [REDACTED] of [REDACTED].  I know I've always liked to say that leaving was the best decision we ever made. And it was. We might be dead right now if we hadn't. The thing is I've never admitted to you or myself how sad I was when we did. This is our home, and defending it against the Union State made me feel proud of my black skin and my southern heritage. Why should the whites be the only ones who can feel like [REDACTED] is their home? It was ours once. And it can be ours again. I know it sounds crazy considering what we went through when we left but believe me when I say that the Combined Syndicates is very serious about reclaiming these lands for the Negro. When this is all over, we'll be able to build a real home here. A place where we can be ourselves and raise our son in peace. The Syndicate Guards will be there to protect us from the Klan. This land is our land, Minnie. We don't need to be refugees in Chicago for the rest of our lives. We won't need to decide any time soon, nothing will happen until the war is won. When it is over though, we'll be eligible to resettle here. Consider it, Minnie. We'll discuss it more when I get home.  For now, Haywood is ready to move [REDACTED] towards the [REDACTED] of [REDACTED]. We've linked back up with the rest of the Corps and we're ready to bring the fight to any federal or Union State army in our path. It'll be nice to see water again. Love you, Leon  Maurice Rose, Hero of the Syndicates, Order of Reed with Gold Star, Commander of the Transatlantic Expeditionary Force I would really like to take a long vacation when this is all over, but as I read the newspaper I realize that I should probably enjoy the warmth down here before the Canadians make me have to head north. We're almost through this particular set of challenges though, so I ought to focus on finishing this battle before thinking about the next one. I am confident we'll see this thing through to the end without much more trouble, given our performance the last few weeks. In particular I am very happy with how we have used our air assets to maximum effect. Without the air cover over Atlanta, our advance would have been far more difficult.  The coordination between George and I had been impeccable. His organizational skill is unmatched and he deserves his new star and recent appointment as Chief of Staff of the Syndicate Guards. It'll be an honor to work under him.  It's a shame that our forces in Gadsden could not hold against the counterattack. Encircling Atlanta would have allowed us to eliminate the forces within the city and make our current task of finishing the Union State somewhat easier. We adapted to the change in the situation and I have no complaints.  Most impressive about Marshall is his ability to keep his men under control. Running a unit of Frenchmen, anarchists and union men is no easy task, as I've learned, and neither is keeping pillaging under control when we're involved in such a fierce conflict for the soul of this continent.  I also have to give Marshall credit for his humility. I know there are many commanders out there who envy me being the first into Atlanta. Marshall has no such dreams of glory, he is only focused on the mission at hand. He has performed admirably in protecting our southern flank, dealing with the Union State counterattack into Charleston so that we may advance without worry.  All of this has brought us to this point. We've achieved our first milestone, while the war is not over yet, we've marched into the capital of our fiercest enemy in this conflict. The Red and Black flies over the statehouse in Atlanta, Huey Long has fled south to Pensacola, likely to prepare a ship to flee when we follow him there. I have to admit that I almost immediately regretted my decision to resign my commission in the United States Army when I considered the consequences of failure. I probably would have been hanged in the end if we hadn't battled this effectively for our survival. I'm still not convinced that this is the right path for our nation. The best option available at the time, perhaps, but I am not joining my men in the belief that we are increasingly close to utopia. If we are even able to one day achieve that promised goal of equality and peace, it will come at the cost of many more lives, on this continent and every other.  For tonight, there is no utopia. I can no longer restrain the men completely. The Union State's atrocity and prejudice demands satisfaction. I've given strict orders, on penalty of death, that there will be no rape or massacre, but the mansions of the Union State elite and the memorials to the Confederacy are fair game. Honestly, I'll be glad to see some of them go up in flames. We are these people's masters now, despite the egalitarian rhetoric. Perhaps in time they will form their own syndicates and integrate into the new society, but for now, we are occupiers. Mass violence will only serve to delay that necessary integration. After all, they are Americans too, even if many of us have forgotten that. de Volkstrant, February 28th, 1937  Pacific States and MacArthur Government Reach Peace Deal Delegates of the United States military government and the Pacific States breakaway government announced the signing and ratification of the Treaty of Sacramento today. The Pacific States, with the support of Japan, has rolled back United States troops all across the Rocky Mountains and in exchange for peace, the United States recognized the accession of Nevada, Utah and Arizona to the Pacific States, which join California, Oregon, Washington and Idaho. Alaska was not on the negotiating table, which leaves questions as to what the United States hopes to do with the territory, given their loss of important ports such as Seattle and San Francisco. Canadian Prime Minister Mackenzie King has already expressed a lack of interest in administering the territory. Mexico was not party to the negotiations, and they have refused to hand over the southern areas of Arizona they have occupied to the Pacific States. The President of the Pacific States, Culbert Levy Olson, has expressed concern about the aggressive actions of the junta that replaced the late revolutionary Emiliano Zapata as rulers of Mexico. The Pacific Army, fresh off its victories in the Rockies are reportedly preparing for an eventual showdown against Mexico or the Combined Syndicates, who appear to have the upper hand in the conflict in the east of the United States.  Olson also announced a series of agreements with Canada, bringing the Pacific States into an alliance with Canada and New England. He described the alignment with the Entente as 'necessary to safeguard Pacific democracy and to hopefully restore the rightfully elected government of the United States'. MacArthur is reportedly outraged that the Pacific States signed such an alliance, after rumored assurances that the Pacific States would take an isolationist approach after independence. With the Combined Syndicates moving through the Midwest at a rapid clip, MacArthur is in no position to protest.  Reed Announces Agricultural Assistance Programs The American Civil War still rages in the south and midwest of the nation, but Chairman John 'Jack' Reed has already begun to roll out a post-war rebuilding plan. First and foremost on his agenda is agriculture. The United States has long been an important source of grain and other foodstuffs for the global market, and the civil war has caused a spike in food prices all over the globe, as well as reports of famine and rationing in parts of the nation. Reed implied that Bolshevik-style collectivization was not being planned, though the Continental Chamber holds the final say on the Combined Syndicates' agricultural policy. He did announce with more confidence that American farmers could count on the Combined Syndicates for various forms of assistance, pointing specifically to a proposal in the Continental Chamber to begin development and distribution of artificial fertilizers to boost yield. He spoke at length about how the former government burned crops while people starved. "Our revolution" Reed said in his speech, "will not allow such criminal famine to come to pass. All Americans will be fed, and once that is done, we will feed our brothers and sisters all over the globe." This seems to be an oblique confirmation of rumored trade negotiations with the European Internationale and other syndicalist states such as the Bhartiya Commune and Centroamerica.  North Sea Crisis! A Bitter Divorce Between Norway and Britain Turns Dangerous Europe was shocked last year when the centre-left social democratic government of Norway announced a series of partnerships and agreements with the Union of Britain. As tensions increase between Britain and Germany, the Norwegian government has begun publicly commenting on the importance of its relationship with Germany. The tension came to a head this week, when Norway abruptly canceled its agreements with Britain at the behest of the German ambassador. Mass protests by syndicalists and trade unions in Oslo at the about face triggered a bold response by the Union of Britain, which sent the Republican Navy across the North Sea with the stated intent of 'enforcing the will of the Norwegian workers'.  The German government denounced the declaration in strong terms and promised to deploy the Kriegmarine in the path of the Republican Navy. The Union of Britain announced it was returning the fleet back to Britain, unwilling to trigger a Second Great War over Norway. The situation has defused considerably in the past few days, and the streets of Oslo are quiet compared to the mass rallies that took place last week. Syndicalist groups within Norway have pledged to continue their protests against the sudden turn towards Berlin, but for now, war seems to have been diverted.  Civil War in Austria-Hungary! The much anticipated 1937 Ausgleich ended in dramatic fashion last week as representatives of Austria and Hungary walked out. Hungarian nobles rejected the Austrian proposal, which would have largely retained the dualist structure of the empire. This was followed by anti-German riots in Budapest and a declaration that the Kingdom of Hungary was a free and sovereign state. The Emperor immediately denounced the declaration as illegal and Austrian units are crossing the border to 'restore order', as he put it. The isolated Austrian outpost in Montenegro also declared its independence.  Fighting has broken out all throughout the empire, with the notable exception of Croatia, which has neglected to declare its support for either Austria or Hungary.  The Montenegrins are not the only opportunists in the Balkans. The repressive Iron Guard regime in Romania declared war on the new Kingdom of Hungary, with the intent to seize Transylvania. The Austrian Empire has not commented on the Romanian declaration, perhaps recognizing the cost of keeping the empire together could involve allowing the Romanians to seize its eastern edge.  If successful, the Iron Guard would go a long way towards its stated goal of 'Greater Romania' which includes designs on Galicia, Bulgaria and Ukraine in addition to the Translyvanian territories.  While Romania's entry does not bode well for the Hungarians, the Austrians have their own problems to deal with, namely the announcement out of Warsaw that Galicia is an 'integral part of the Polish nation', which followed an announcement of allegiance to the Kingdom of Hungary. Austria has vowed to resist the takeover.  The Italian Federation also declared war upon Austria after its demands for Venetia and Trento were denied.  It wouldn't be a Balkan war without the Serbs and they have entered on the side of the Austrians, seeking to seize Bosnia and the Hungarian territories it claims as Serb lands. Luckily for the rest of Europe, this conflagration is not likely to ignite another Great War, as Russia is too embroiled in its own civil war to care what happens in the Balkans, France has no interest in a region with very little syndicalist influence and Germany is unwilling to get involved with the Internationale threat growing daily. War seems increasingly inevitable, but this crisis will not be its cause.
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Hmmm, odd that there'd be no Syndies in the east. I forget, what's the state of the Ottoman empire right now? Are they mostly about dealing with Arab nationalism or? Btw best LP for how cathartic it is to imagine a left wing victory in the US. Dang.
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The names of the factions in the US theater have to have been chosen as a gigantic troll. "CSA" is an unfortunate acronym for a nation of Yankee socialists in a Second Civil War, especially when there is a faction actually inspired by the Confederate States of America. This faction, meanwhile, has the baffling name "American Union State" (AUS), I guess to help distinguish it from the "Unites States of America" (USA). Jesus Christ. Loving the LP though. GunnerJ fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Nov 23, 2014 |
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Btw best LP for how cathartic it is to imagine a left wing victory in the US. Dang. I think this is intentional on the part of the mod developers, setting up a world where the far left is in a much stronger position, and probably one of the reasons for its enduring popularity beyond the fact that it's so extensive and well written.
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GunnerJ posted:The names of the factions in the US theater have to have been chosen as a gigantic troll. "CSA" is an unfortunate acronym for a nation of Yankee socialists in a Second Civil War, especially when there is a faction actually inspired by the Confederate States of America. This faction, meanwhile, has the baffling name "American Union State" (AUS), I guess to help distinguish it from the "Unites States of America" (USA). Jesus Christ. The story that you'll hear is that the Kaiserreich team was tired of second U.S. civil wars always being about the Confederacy/South Rising Again, so they made the CSA yankee communists, and put Huey Long in command of the Union. So yeah, it's a huge troll. But amusing.
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Chief Savage Man posted:The black southerners have lived in entirely different communities than the white southerners, which I had heard plenty about from the commissar. I suppose I just didn't expect it to be so blatant. Separate water fountains and other such insani That really shouldn't surprise them things were like that in a most major cites in the USA.
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I find it funny that a state that is very much right leaning like California is lead by people who were known as progressives historically. Also goodbye Austria.
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cokerpilot posted:That really shouldn't surprise them things were like that in a most major cites in the USA. I re-used an English volunteer from the first update I did like this. Considering all he's seen of the nation is the welcoming committee in New York before going into battle, I don't think he really would have such a concept. I think the CSA acronym might have a bit to do with the use of the CSA tag in the game files. I remember a very long time ago in the HoI2 version, my mods I was installing on top of each other got their wires crossed and I ended up with all Confederate imagery in my CSA game. Deceitful Penguin posted:Hmmm, odd that there'd be no Syndies in the east. I forget, what's the state of the Ottoman empire right now? Are they mostly about dealing with Arab nationalism or? Nothing so far. It's really quite early in most of the game's storylines. The Arab Congress has happened and the Arab states have made their claims, but iirc we have a couple years before things kick off in the Near East. csm141 fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Nov 23, 2014 |
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Hmmm, odd that there'd be no Syndies in the east. I forget, what's the state of the Ottoman empire right now? Are they mostly about dealing with Arab nationalism or? If I may be so bold as to just quote the intro text: Once the greatest empire in existence, spanning three continents and ruling over hundreds of thousands of people the Ottoman Empire had declined by the late 19th century, to the point of being known as the 'sick man of europe'. An inability to industrialise, combined with the fierce conservative opposition to any reform whatsoever, meant that the Ottoman Sultanate had dropped back well behind the European powers by 1876, when Abdul Hamid II came to the throne. Attempts were made to change this, which although they failed, did lead to closer ties between German and the Empire, culminating in the beginning of construction of the Berlin-Baghdad railway in 1888. As the Great War began in Europe the Ottomans signed a treaty with the Germans and soon after joined the war against the Entente powers. Turkey's forces had begun to collapse by 1918 and seemed likely to surrender. However the renewed offensive in western Europe by the Germans drew many allied soldiers away from the Turkish theatre and with France's fall Germany was finally free to send troops into Turkey itself. The British were driven out of Baghdad and Jerusalem and soon after from out of Egypt too. When peace came in 1921 the Ottoman Empire gained Cyprus directly and a set of puppet governments in Albania, Armenia, Libya and Tunisia. The Berlin-Baghdad railway was finally completed and extended to Basra as well. However despite these victories the Sultanate remained unindustrialised and in desperate need of reform. Unfortunately the Germans had an interest in maintaining the status quo and so consistently backed the Sultans in any clashes with reformist groups, while at the same time letting the Sultan know that any reform on his part would lead to a withdrawal of their support. In 1936 then the Sultanate is staggering and slipping. More and more groups demanding reforms are appearing, to be joined by various nationalist groups intent on achieving independence. Economically too it is reliant on German support, especially the oil trade from the Middle East. In other words the Ottoman Empire is now the 'terminally ill man of Europe' When I played them, there were a bunch of revolting states, slight involvement in the Balkans and the whole Arabian alliance thing but nothing besides that.
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Chief Savage Man posted:I think the CSA acronym might have a bit to do with the use of the CSA tag in the game files. I remember a very long time ago in the HoI2 version, my mods I was installing on top of each other got their wires crossed and I ended up with all Confederate imagery in my CSA game. Actually, no. If you watch the AUS spawn very closely, they'll start off with the Confederate ministers before their first event sets their cabinet.
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TheMcD posted:Actually, no. If you watch the AUS spawn very closely, they'll start off with the Confederate ministers before their first event sets their cabinet. The AUS uses the TEX tag.
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Chief Savage Man posted:The AUS uses the TEX tag. Then why do they end up with the same ministers I saw in the Confederate roster in vanilla? Very strange. Must have misread something, I guess.
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Crowsbeak posted:I find it funny that a state that is very much right leaning like California is lead by people who were known as progressives historically. One important thing to note about the 2nd Civil War faction (as well as the overwhelming majority of factions in KR) is that they can all be either good guys or bad guys depending on how things turn out. The CSA can become benign, more libertarian socialists, or they can become devotees of Totalism (this game's equivalent of Stalinism); the AUS can become a borderline fascist hellhole, or Long's more progressive policies can take over. The PSA can either break down into a dictatorship, or it can adopt policies along the lines of Roosevelt's Social Liberalism (as seen in real world USA). KR is generous with giving you good guy options no matter who you're playing as.
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Potooweet posted:The story that you'll hear is that the Kaiserreich team was tired of second U.S. civil wars always being about the Confederacy/South Rising Again, so they made the CSA yankee communists, and put Huey Long in command of the Union. Honestly my biggest problem is having to remind myself that the CSA are the good guys, which goes against all my instincts.
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As a non-American, I'm finding the debate about what the factions mean totally adorable. How would a socialist-european game go, starting with France or England? Placate Germany while trying to build up a force to expand south? The AU is making me want to play a Paradox game way more than the 'true' ones. e: If Cornish seperatism is viable, I'm laying down my  .
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petrol blue posted:As a non-American, I'm finding the debate about what the factions mean totally adorable. France and England are on a collision course with Germany. They'll interfere if you attack Spain, they'll interfere if you attack North Italy, they'll interfere if you attack Switzerland. So taking Germany out first is a priority. From there, you win the game, so just do whatever. As for separatism, there's only one option that decentralizes Britain into England, Wales and Scotland.
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Lustful Man Hugs posted:One important thing to note about the 2nd Civil War faction (as well as the overwhelming majority of factions in KR) is that they can all be either good guys or bad guys depending on how things turn out. The CSA can become benign, more libertarian socialists, or they can become devotees of Totalism (this game's equivalent of Stalinism); the AUS can become a borderline fascist hellhole, or Long's more progressive policies can take over. The PSA can either break down into a dictatorship, or it can adopt policies along the lines of Roosevelt's Social Liberalism (as seen in real world USA). Oh I understand that, its more that I think that they could have found some people who were known opponents of the new deal. Both those guys were big proponents of the New Deal, Johnson would only turn from FDR after the court packing scheme. Also I don't see butterflys here for Johnson because that man was TR's running mate in the election of 1912, and he was a staunch isolationist who was not fond of the British empire. I remember actually doing a game as the CSA and not being able to get to Europe till 1943, by which point the Germans had gotten into france, and had knocked out Sicily, however I managed to trap the Germans in CNT Spain, and then pushed them back. However by that point Wrengels Russia had decided to restore the motherland. Which left me with a Rhineland syndicalist Germany, while the rest of Central and Eastern Europe was under Wrengel. I did solve that problem though by fast researching ICMBs and going to war with Wrengel in 52, with the opening being nukes on Kharkov, Petrograd and Moscow. Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Nov 24, 2014 |
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petrol blue posted:As a non-American, I'm finding the debate about what the factions mean totally adorable. The Internationale starts off pretty weak, so the early game is spent sending resources and proxy forces to win civil wars in other countries (USA, Spain, Russia, etc) while consolidating stronger industrial and military power at home. You are also generally trying to not be at war with both the Entente (Canadian/National France sphere of influence) and Mitteleuropa (German/Central Powers sphere) at the same time.
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Nov 23, 2014 04:31
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paragon1 posted:How would syndicalism handle a military I wonder? Are the generals and volunteers part of some informal soldier's trade Union? I'd imagine it be somewhat close how Orwell describes the anarchists militias in Homage to Catalonia. quote:In the early days of Franco's revolt the militias had been hurriedly raised by the various trade unions and political parties; each was essentially a political organization, owing allegiance to its party as much as to the central Government. When the Popular Army, which was a 'non political' army organized on more or less ordinary lines, was raised at the beginning of 1937, the party militias were theoretically incorporated in it. [...] The essential point of the system was social equality between officers and men. Everyone from general to private drew the same pay, ate the same food, wore the same clothes, and mingled on terms of complete equality. If you wanted to slap the general commanding the division on the back and ask him for a cigarette, you could do so, and no one thought it curious. In theory at any rate each militia was a democracy and not a hierarchy. It was understood that orders had to be obeyed, but it was also understood that when you gave an order you gave it as comrade to comrade and not as superior to inferior. There were officers and N.C.O.S. but there was no military rank in the ordinary sense; no titles, no badges, no heel-clicking and saluting. They had attempted to produce within the militias a sort of temporary working model of the classless society. Of course there was no perfect equality, but there was a nearer approach to it than I had ever seen or than I would have thought conceivable in time of war.
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Nov 23, 2014 05:39
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Doesn't the CSA even have the confederate flag on its interface?
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Nov 23, 2014 12:51
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GrossMurpel posted:Doesn't the CSA even have the confederate flag on its interface? No. The AUS can choose it as an option, but it's only one of the four options and not the default one.
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Nov 24, 2014 02:54
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ulmont posted:No. The AUS can choose it as an option, but it's only one of the four options and not the default one.  Maybe I just messed up my interface somehow, but there it is (top left).
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Nov 24, 2014 03:45
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Yeah if you don't install the custom skins it'll use the default CSA graphics.
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Nov 24, 2014 04:01
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Chief Savage Man posted:Yeah if you don't install the custom skins it'll use the default CSA graphics. That makes sense, but you can see in the province interface the red/black flag that is intended.
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Nov 24, 2014 04:32
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ulmont posted:That makes sense, but you can see in the province interface the red/black flag that is intended. Oh yeah, the proper flag is all over the place, but the (inaccurate) Confederate flag is shown on the interface graphic if you don't have the Kaiserreich pack.
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Nov 24, 2014 04:39
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I was just thinking but would not the CSA try to keep certain figures from the USA as representatives of the "proletariat" asserting itself? Like Lincoln for his war against the CSA. Perhaps it would also commemorate certain founders who were seen as "sufficiently radical". Likewise instead of seeing the American revolution as entirely Bourgeois they would see it as a "revolution unfinished".
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Nov 24, 2014 05:14
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Crowsbeak posted:I was just thinking but would not the CSA try to keep certain figures from the USA as representatives of the "proletariat" asserting itself? Like Lincoln for his war against the CSA. Perhaps it would also commemorate certain founders who were seen as "sufficiently radical". Likewise instead of seeing the American revolution as entirely Bourgeois they would see it as a "revolution unfinished". Thomas Paine Corps c/d?
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Nov 24, 2014 05:26
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I think the person from American history most likely to get championed as a hero by the CSA would probably be John Brown.
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Reveilled posted:I think the person from American history most likely to get championed as a hero by the CSA would probably be John Brown. He would certainly be up there.
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