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Fruity Tree posted:I'm so glad Whitehall dropped his German accent in his assimilation period after prison. It's nice to see realistic character development on a linguistic level instead of shoving him into the stereotypical Nazi villain corner forever. Language-wise, that is. Otherwise he's still pretty deep in the stereotypical Nazi villain corner. Ohwell. Baron Von Strucker in the Captain America 2 midcredits scene still have an accent, but I think he's in Europe most of the time so maybe that's excusable. I don't know about the monocle, though. Quasipox posted:What's next? You want the man to drop his funny little salute? Or his appreciation for fine, leather uniforms? Now that I think about it, no Hydra agent does that double fist heil salute anymore after the first Captain America movie.
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Quasipox posted:What's next? You want the man to drop his funny little salute? Or his appreciation for fine, leather uniforms? These marginalities will never truly define him. Only his tiny double-monocle Harry-Potter-style glasses can! Aside from that, the poor guy has got no real background story (yet) and still wants to destroy the world because destroying the world is Nazi-esque. The MSJ posted:Baron Von Strucker in the Captain America 2 midcredits scene still have an accent, but I think he's in Europe most of the time so maybe that's excusable. I don't know about the monocle, though. Here in Europe, we all wear monocles! They've replaced the backward concept of contact lenses.
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The MSJ posted:Now that I think about it, no Hydra agent does that double fist heil salute anymore after the first Captain America movie. Aside from Kaminski, the over-enthusiactic Hydra goon, of course. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eXPALyvyyI
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Bruceski posted:Aside from Kaminski, the over-enthusiactic Hydra goon, of course. I hope he's still alive
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Wasn't he the goon with the berserker staff that May curbstomped at the start of the season 1 finale?
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Not sure if it has been posted here already, but S.H.I.E.L.D. season one is on Netflix now. They foreshadow Ward a bit in the very first episode. I also forgot about the "a little poop, with daggers in it" joke.
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Kruller posted:Not sure if it has been posted here already, but S.H.I.E.L.D. season one is on Netflix now. They foreshadow Ward a bit in the very first episode. I also forgot about the "a little poop, with daggers in it" joke. What foreshadowing did they do there?
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greatn posted:What foreshadowing did they do there? His personality problems. 'Best marks since Romanov, but poop with daggers at people skills!' Turns out, they were understated by a few orders of magnitude. There's actually a lot of subtle hints throughout the season, you just have to sit through the episodes to see them. My favorite was just before the reveal, where he's fighting the SHIELD guys in the hall and he's getting the poo poo kicked out of him. There's a nice shot of the knife on the floor and then the insane grin on his face as he sees it. Then he hurries Skye past the bodies so she doesn't notice they've all been stabbed to death.
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The biggest hint was when he threw away Fitz's sandwich because that's when I knew he was a monster worse than Thanos himself.
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Gavok posted:The biggest hint was when he threw away Fitz's sandwich because that's when I knew he was a monster worse than Thanos himself. When Fitz tried to kill him by suffocation, I expected that to come up.
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Wait! Ward is a middle aged, white, male sociopath with a tragic backstory, who kills countless people, thinks of himself as the hero and has a weird misson focused mentality. He is a video game protagonist! Just think about it. He does reckless things like juming out of a flying plane to catch Fitz, or singlehandedly defeating a bunch of enemies. He gets ordered around by a mentor character without really thinking why he advances the plot this way. The first thing he does in the show is make a stupid quip. Now that his mentor is dead, he is on a weird redemption arc which only happens in his head. And the only way you can root for him is by surrounding him with literal nazis, to look good in comparison. Dogshooting 101 was the tutorial level, where he learned to fend for himself.
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He's specifically a Ubisoft video game protagonist.
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Air is lava! posted:Wait! ...and it's right up the Whedon clan's alley, too.
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He's a Splinter Cell who is an Assassin and infatuated with a watch_dog.
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greatn posted:He's a Splinter Cell who is an Assassin and infatuated with a watch_dog. No, I think he shot_dog.
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The weirdest part of that interpretation is his betrayal. In his mind he just advanced the plot by doing his objectives. Then suddenly every one turned on HIM. He is even willing to forgive Coulson, the murderer of his mentor, but that demon wants to hand him over to be executed by the person he feared the most. Luckily he managed to break free and after a sneaking mission where he had to shake his pursuers, he did a little sidequest, before starting the emotional boss battle against his brother. Seeing the whole story from Wards deranged point of view is kind of fun. He doesn't seem to feel any regret for his betrayal. So I'm starting to doubt that he even realises that he did anything wrong. "Oh you didn't like that? I didn't know. I'm sorry Skye but it was my mission so I had no choice." cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Nov 22, 2014 |
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Air is lava! posted:Wait! Makes sense why some people can't seem to grasp that have that weird Ward blindspot, they're used to characters like him being the hero.
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It's been eighty pages and no one has coined the term "The Skyefather" yet. I too am at blame.
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BrianWilly posted:It's been eighty pages and no one has coined the term "The Skyefather" yet. I too am at blame. Muad'dad is just too good. Also, HER NAME IS NOT SKYE!
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Error 404 posted:Muad'dad is just too good. Unless you never watched that show, and thus have no fucks to give about it. Error 404 posted:Also, HER NAME IS NOT SKYE! Well, until you tell us what it is, SkyeDad, it's Skye. 
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Air is lava! posted:Wait! Mend and defend, Coulson!
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Kheldarn posted:Well, until you tell us what it is, SkyeDad, it's Skye.
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Kheldarn posted:Unless you never watched that show, and thus have no fucks to give about it. Yeah I dont get the Muad'dad thing at all
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Republican Vampire posted:It's Mary-Sue Poots Gonna be funny if that's true.
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BlueBayou posted:Yeah I dont get the Muad'dad thing at all He was Paul Atreides aka Muad'Dib in the 80s Dune movie.
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BlueBayou posted:Yeah I dont get the Muad'dad thing at all It's from a not very good movie based on a not very good book.
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Aphrodite posted:It's from a not very good movie based on a not very good book. The book is a classic but I'm with you on the movie.
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I just know him as the mayor of Portland and the guy who fucks Elizabeth Berkeley really hard in Showgirls.
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Phylodox posted:Why isn't it Mudad'dib, then?
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That's half the cast of Showgirls.
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I'm just wondering how the majority of you haven't seen Twin Peaks.
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I've seen neither Twin Peaks nor Dune. I too mostly know him as the mayor of Portland.
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ToastyPotato posted:I've seen neither Twin Peaks nor Dune. I too mostly know him as the mayor of Portland. I know him best as Trey from sex and the city.  I keep meaning to watch Twin Peaks so much but my g/f always vetoes it with something else.
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Twin Peaks was cool right up until the end...halfway through the second season.
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I know him as The Captain from How I Met Your Mother. Man has crazy eyes. 
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BSam posted:I'm just wondering how the majority of you haven't seen Twin Peaks. I have, I just brought up Dune because: a. it's what the joke name was referencing b. it's fractionally more well known.
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BSam posted:I'm just wondering how the majority of you haven't seen Twin Peaks. Dude, I saw Twin Peaks live on air. But that was twenty three years ago. There are people posting here who weren't born yet. We should cut them some slack for not going back to watch a, let's be honest, ambitious but flawed show from before their birth. Just like I've never bothered to go back and watch Dark Shadows, and ambitious but flawed show that aired before my birth!
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