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This person was trying to dodge using up her sick time by coming into work and vomiting in front of her manager, you really think he's an rear end in a top hat for not cutting her a deal?
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Retail Slave posted:Well, it ends with a three-hour shift, but yes, you're reading that correctly. And yes, it IS bullshit. So, so much bullshit. At least I have Saturday off after that. And I better have loving Sunday off too. So why the gently caress are they making you do that kind of ridiculous hot-racking?
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Nov 22, 2014 17:43
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Baldbeard posted:Sorry you are such an angry person, please never hold a position of any responsibility. Right. Your first reaction to someone so sick they are making GBS threads and puking all over the place is to be pissed off at how inconvenient it is and I am the angry one. I'm sorry that you can't see that this poor woman was too afraid of getting in trouble for being legitimately ill to call out. 12 hours is absurd. So is a 3 day sick leave allotment. Just because some businesses run things like a sweat shop doesn't make it morally acceptable. Also I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess this person makes wages at or near the poverty line.
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Nov 22, 2014 19:46
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I work at a Trader Joe's in Massachusetts. I just had a customer ask me if I work here (no I enjoy wearing Hawaiian shirts in the middle of November when it is 35 out and not have a coat anywhere near me) and then asked me where the Charles Shaw (cheap wine we carry) was while I was stacking cases of it.
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Nov 22, 2014 19:47
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Baldbeard posted:Things happen, and people get sick, that's why you call in before your shift -- at the very least right before your shift. Would she get in trouble for calling in sick right before her shift?
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Nov 22, 2014 20:15
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therobit posted:Right. Your first reaction to someone so sick they are making GBS threads and puking all over the place is to be pissed off at how inconvenient it is and I am the angry one. If you managed someone who had used up both all of their planned and unplanned leave days that came in to basically try to bargain for a bonus sick day by throwing up in front of you, you wouldn't be the least bit disturbed?
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Nov 22, 2014 20:20
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therobit posted:Right. Your first reaction to someone so sick they are making GBS threads and puking all over the place is to be pissed off at how inconvenient it is and I am the angry one. What's he supposed to have done then? Instructed her to leave so that HE got poo poo from higher up for it instead? He's already told her he's not going to make her stay if she's sick, but she's trying to make it so he catches the flak instead of her. She should have gone and vomited over the general manager.
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Nov 22, 2014 20:24
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Pekinduck posted:Would she get in trouble for calling in sick right before her shift? The policy is 12 hours, but as long as we can get enough notice to call around nothing happens. Showing up and not working gives zero time, so someone has to work overtime to cover until we can get another body in. Once there's OT on the payroll, someone has to explain it. Fil5000 posted:What's he supposed to have done then? Instructed her to leave so that HE got poo poo from higher up for it instead? He's already told her he's not going to make her stay if she's sick, but she's trying to make it so he catches the flak instead of her. She should have gone and vomited over the general manager. Yes. This here is the whole point. She showed up so she "came to her shift" and then tried to get me to send her home so it wouldn't be her responsibility for giving us no warning. That's why she was following me around telling how bad she felt instead of just calling ahead, or leaving because she couldn't work. Instead of running to the bathroom, she literally barfed in her hands and held it up to me. She was doing everything she could to get me to send her home rather than leaving herself. therobit posted:Right. Your first reaction to someone so sick they are making GBS threads and puking all over the place is to be pissed off at how inconvenient it is and I am the angry one. Anyways, I'm over posting about this. There was nothing I could do, but it was cold of me not to mention feeling sorry for her anywhere in my story. That makes me feel crumby. Baldbeard fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Nov 22, 2014 |
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Nov 22, 2014 21:08
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3 days a year is loving criminal
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Nov 22, 2014 21:29
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Baldbeard posted:She showed up so she "came to her shift" and then tried to get me to send her home so it wouldn't be her responsibility for giving us no warning. It sounds like she would indeed get in trouble for calling in sick.
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Nov 22, 2014 21:51
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Mooktastical posted:3 days a year is loving criminal If you read what he wrote, they get 3 days of unplanned absences a year in addition to their requested absence pool. That's pretty drat generous, most places I've been will ream you out for just not showing up with no notice even once.
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Nov 22, 2014 21:59
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Baldbeard posted:Yes. This here is the whole point. She showed up so she "came to her shift" and then tried to get me to send her home so it wouldn't be her responsibility for giving us no warning. That's why she was following me around telling how bad she felt instead of just calling ahead, or leaving because she couldn't work. Instead of running to the bathroom, she literally barfed in her hands and held it up to me. She was doing everything she could to get me to send her home rather than leaving herself. This is disgusting, childish behavior and in no way should she be rewarded for it or cut any slack. The woman needs to be taken aside and told to grow the gently caress up, because if she did that to me I wouldn't have sent her home, I would have loving fired her. Irish Joe fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Nov 23, 2014 |
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Nov 23, 2014 02:53
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Not a Children posted:If you read what he wrote, they get 3 days of unplanned absences a year in addition to their requested absence pool. That's pretty drat generous, most places I've been will ream you out for just not showing up with no notice even once. Yeah sick days in the USA are really, really bad in general. Isn't really an excuse, but it is was it is. Hope she is feeling better, that sounds awful.
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Nov 23, 2014 03:09
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Not a Children posted:If you read what he wrote, they get 3 days of unplanned absences a year in addition to their requested absence pool. That's pretty drat generous, most places I've been will ream you out for just not showing up with no notice even once. Yes, I understand the difference between sick days and pto, thank you for that. Giving notice that day, even if it's only a couple of hours before your shift starts, generally speaking, is treated differently than a no call no show at every place I've ever worked. It's still loving stupid to expect that an employee will never be too sick to work more than 3 times a year. That kind of backwards thinking just forces stupid poo poo like the guy is talking about, and has skewed the entire conversation.
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Nov 23, 2014 03:36
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Look I can understand her coming into work sick and then nagging to be sent home because of an inflexible sick leave policy but really couldn't she have grabbed a bowl or gotten over to a trash can or SOMETHING if she's hovering around them saying "hey i'm totally gonna vomit just you wait"?? Just standing behind a guy you're trying to convince you're sick and puking into your hands is weird. I guess it teaches me to be thankful my workplace doesn't really penalize people for calling off or needing to be sent home though. If you're sick, you call in ahead of your shift, if you're sick a bunch of days, get a doctor's excuse, and if you're too sick to finish your shift try to hang tight 'til they can find somebody to cover and bring them in unless you literally can't continue working at all in which case gently caress it, go home, management will figure something out.
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Nov 23, 2014 03:59
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gently caress working at a grocery store the weekend before Thanksgiving. That is all.
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Nov 23, 2014 04:09
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Lprsti99 posted:gently caress working at a grocery store the weekend before Thanksgiving. That is all. And of course it's your personal fault that your store is out of whatever item the customer just HAS to have, because they couldn't have bought it at any time within the past month.
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Nov 23, 2014 04:19
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Pornographic Memory posted:Look I can understand her coming into work sick and then nagging to be sent home because of an inflexible sick leave policy but really couldn't she have grabbed a bowl or gotten over to a trash can or SOMETHING if she's hovering around them saying "hey i'm totally gonna vomit just you wait"?? Just standing behind a guy you're trying to convince you're sick and puking into your hands is weird. In a circumstance like that, she never should've come in, and shouldn't have been written up for it, provided she gave enough notice. Corporate policies that force sick people to work are quite dumb
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Nov 23, 2014 04:21
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Retail Slave posted:And of course it's your personal fault that your store is out of whatever item the customer just HAS to have, because they couldn't have bought it at any time within the past month. I now work as a csr in a call center that does maintenance support for large businesses, like sending plumbers to wal marts, for example. The closer it gets to ~Black Friday~, the more pushy and unreasonable these assholes become. 'I'm very sorry you waited until 2 days before the big day to call this critical equipment in. You already told me that you have others that will work for the time being, and the company in question will not send your replacement out until they receive the broken one, and there is no amount of arguing/complaining/demanding that you can do that will have any result whatsoever. I'll tilt at the proverbial windmill for basically any legitimate emergency, but you can gently caress right off, stop wasting my and your time.' Maybe I should just start lying this year.
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Nov 23, 2014 04:32
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Mooktastical posted:
If you're not over-promising and under-delivering, you're probably violating company policy and subject to punishment.
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Nov 23, 2014 04:37
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theacox posted:If you're not over-promising and under-delivering, you're probably violating company policy and subject to punishment. They love me, actually, because I will suss out details that end up saving the clients money through warranty recalls, and my numbers are loving ballin, but that doesn't mean that I'm irreplaceable. A lot of my coworkers will say whatever they have to to avoid doing work, and it barely even loving qualifies as work.
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Nov 23, 2014 05:00
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Lprsti99 posted:gently caress working at a grocery store the weekend before Thanksgiving. That is all. Thank god they approved my time off request for the day before Thanksgiving, because gently caress working with all the craziness that day. I do have to work tomorrow however, and it is going to be horrible. Definitely not looking forward to that.
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Nov 23, 2014 05:22
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Worked yesterday (Friday) and today (see my post above for that). Off tomorrow (pro: not working; con: not earning time and a half). Working Mon-Wed. Upside is I get to laze about my apartment afterwards until the 5th (yay being part time and partially disabled). I am sore all over and about to pass out. That said, I far prefer grocery to any other form of retail because for the most part I see the same customers every week.
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Nov 23, 2014 05:53
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So, to bring this full circle, you ended your story with you dry-heaving and pointing at the door. Does that mean that she succeeded in getting you to send her home early and not getting written up?
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Nov 23, 2014 06:42
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Lprsti99 posted:gently caress working at a grocery store the weekend before Thanksgiving. That is all. Work receiving, avoid the dumb customers. Aw yeh. It's just not *quite* so fun hanging out in the freezer, organizing turkeys. But ehh.
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Nov 23, 2014 09:29
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darkwolf220 posted:So, to bring this full circle, you ended your story with you dry-heaving and pointing at the door. Does that mean that she succeeded in getting you to send her home early and not getting written up? Haha, so here's the conclusion. Apparently she ended up getting written up the day before for not giving enough notice when she called out the first time and later spotted drunk by the night manager (a few hours before her shift with me) causing ruckus in the shopping center. The whole situation with me was just a waste of time, since she was already written up and neither of us knew about it yet. I guess she faked it the first time and then was just really hungover after that. So she will probably get the book thrown at her by the general manager and terminated the next time she is even a minute late.
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Nov 23, 2014 13:26
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Jingleheimer posted:Thank god they approved my time off request for the day before Thanksgiving, because gently caress working with all the craziness that day. I do have to work tomorrow however, and it is going to be horrible. Definitely not looking forward to that. I'm working 8am-8pm at Whole Foods on Wednesday, in the meat department. 
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Nov 23, 2014 14:45
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Pumpy Dumper posted:I'm working 8am-8pm at Whole Foods on Wednesday, in the meat department. You're going to have your "how to cook the turkey" speech playing in your head for a month.
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Nov 23, 2014 16:22
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Don't know if this qualifies as retail, but I don't see a QSR thread anywhere. I loving hate hate HATE being reliable, because it ended up getting me made a keyholder at the Subway I work at (still at minimum wage but due for a raise soonish) and closing 5 nights a week...usually including at the very least Friday through Sunday. Basically 3 nights a week, I get out between 11:15 and 11:30, Friday and Saturday between 12:15 and 12:30. I have two kids at home, a two-year-old who wakes up at the rear end crack of dawn and a six-month-old who wakes up between 5 and 6 because he's hungry. My fiancée is pregnant, which means she sleeps through the morning usually, so I get MAYBE 4 or 5 hours of sleep a night, plus maybe half an hour to two hours when the kids go down for a nap at noon. My boss KNOWS this situation and still has me close 5 nights a week. I haven't had anything other than a closing shift scheduled in a month. I love my life...just hate my job. I'm sending my resume anywhere that looks promising, but no bites so far. 
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Nov 23, 2014 17:16
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Che Delilas posted:You're going to have your "how to cook the turkey" speech playing in your head for a month. Che Delilas posted:You're going to have your "how to cook the turkey" speech playing in your head for a month. I used to get this at previous places WHEN THE TURKEYS COME WITH A POP UP TIMER. you literally put the turkey in the oven at 350 and wait for the thing to pop
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Ok so before I get into my rant, let me give some background: I work in an accounting/office position that is part-time shared with one other employee. Because it's a specialist position pretty much the only person who can cover my shift is the other employee or the store manager/assistant manager. I just found out that my counterpart in the office had requested and been granted days off from December 23-28. I'm pretty upset to say the least. Yes, she deserves some time off to see her family- but so do I. Plus, I haven't requested time off because we have all ALWAYS been told that all requests during the holidays would be denied. So now I have to rely on the good graces and common decency of my managers to allow me maybe one full day outside of Christmas itself to spend with my family over the holiday. Family who, by the way, lives over 1000 miles away and I'm lucky to see twice a year. Now, I know that working retail means you work holidays. I know that Christmas is the busiest time, and I was expecting to have to work some of those days. But not loving ALL of them. The most ridiculous thing is apparently granting this request was the last thing my former manager did before scooting out the door to a different store so I can't even complain to the same loving manager who granted the request in the first place.
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Nov 24, 2014 02:33
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One of my CEMs just handed in her notice, and it's apparently for a similar situation to your story. The other CEM booked off a bunch of time to go get married, so the only way the first one could go see her family was to quit her job. I get that you should have the right to get married whenever suits you. It's your wedding, do it when you want. Fourth of July, April 20th, whatever. But don't apply to be retail management knowing you'll be off getting hitched at the busiest time of the year, douchenozzle. Have some loving respect for others.
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Nov 24, 2014 02:42
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Don't get mad at employees doing what they need to do so they can fully enjoy one of the biggest days of their life. Get mad at management for obviously giving no fucks.
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Oh that's the thing- I'm not even mad at her. I consider her a friend, we cover for each other all the time. I'm totally loving pissed at my manager though for telling me not to even bother to ask for time off because it will be denied and then totally backstabbing me by giving her all the time off "because she asked". poo poo like this is why I'm back in school. gently caress retail and gently caress management.
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Nov 24, 2014 03:46
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gently caress the management for making some people work holidays and not others. gently caress corporate for having their stores open during the holidays. gently caress the employee who has to see their families during the winter holidays and not any other part of the year. gently caress the customer for not getting their shopping done a full week before Thanksgiving and Christmas. You know what, gently caress everybody. Please stop blaming everything on management. They're the middlemen between the self righteous employee and the soulless corporate. No matter what management does, someone is going to get butt hurt. Once again this year, I'm taking one for the team. Working Wednesday night, only person in our department working Thursday, and am the opener for Friday morning. In total I'm working 6 days / 48 hours, everybody else is working 32 hours or less.
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Nov 24, 2014 04:21
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ijii posted:You know what, gently caress everybody. The only correct opinion.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:One of my CEMs just handed in her notice, and it's apparently for a similar situation to your story. The other CEM booked off a bunch of time to go get married, so the only way the first one could go see her family was to quit her job. You are a broken human being. I feel really sad that your life has brought you to the point where you're calling someone a "douchnozzle" for getting married.
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I used to get mad whenever people have approved time off or go out on medical leave during the holiday season and possibly leave their department shorthanded. But eventually I came to the conclusion that if I were in their shoes and that option were available to me, I would do the exact same thing so I don't get so worked up about it anymore.
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Magic Underwear posted:You are a broken human being. I feel really sad that your life has brought you to the point where you're calling someone a "douchnozzle" for getting married. You are taking the timing of said wedding as a given, when it's anything but.
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Jingleheimer posted:I used to get mad whenever people have approved time off or go out on medical leave during the holiday season and possibly leave their department shorthanded. But eventually I came to the conclusion that if I were in their shoes and that option were available to me, I would do the exact same thing so I don't get so worked up about it anymore. There is a ring of truth to this, but I think it depends on the circumstances. Personally, I set the expectations with my family that December is just not a good time for me. I've missed weddings, I def miss get togethers, and only make some family functions. I then try and make up for it later, so I see family in January, I had my wedding in the summertime, etc. A part of it is a fact of the job that December is busier, and I like my job enough to make the sacrifice. If I was not enjoying my job, or made a good bit less, then I probably would have a bigger complaint and probably just say gently caress it. So I think it depends how well the company treats you and how invested you feel in it. Which in retail normally does and should mean "gently caress em." I do think planning your own wedding specifically in December is irresponsible if you work retail.
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