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What I don't get about coming out and saying that "no, despite being insanely racist, this was meant to NOT be racist" is, the entire point of these guys job is supposedly to deliver their opinions in a clear, unambiguous manner through imagery. So you're admitting that either they are abysmal at their jobs, or their opinion is completely reprehensible.matrix ripoff posted:Well, too bad. This thread is going to remember you having a bad time and a wrong opinion and they'll drag it up EACH and EVERY SINGLE TIME you do a thing they don't like. Innocent Poster: B-b-but I thought it was A Bad Cartoon! Judgemental Goons: He heh heh. Corner Kelly: Something Awfully Judgemental.
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vyelkin posted:Maybe this thread has desensitized me, but I didn't think that cartoon was even that racist by conservative cartoonist standards. There have been way worse cartoons posted just in the last week, why get upset over this one rather than an actually abhorrent one? The mustache was a bit much though thankfully he didn't have a poncho or sombrero on. The only time I've really disagreed with this thread about the racism in a cartoon was the one that was I think Beeler, about the watermelon toothpaste. Yeah, I know about watermelons and racism, so I'm not ignorant of that, and I'm not going to say it was completely absent of racism, but I feel it was maybe a bit over the top to claim that it was dogwhistle racism. I really do feel it was the kind of situation where neither he nor his editor realized it because toothpaste is a step removed from an actual food, and then realized later "Wait, poo poo, that does kinda look bad now that I think about it." If it had been a guy opening Obama's fridge and there was a watermelon in it then yeah that would definitely be obvious, but toothpaste? Eh. Fulchrum posted:What I don't get about coming out and saying that "no, despite being insanely racist, this was meant to NOT be racist" is, the entire point of these guys job is supposedly to deliver their opinions in a clear, unambiguous manner through imagery. So you're admitting that either they are abysmal at their jobs, or their opinion is completely reprehensible. I don't get why they don't do this sort of editing with every single McCoy cartoon and Obama's lips (maybe that paper doesn't carry either of the Mccoys, I honestly don't know).
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vyelkin posted:Maybe this thread has desensitized me, but I didn't think that cartoon was even that racist by conservative cartoonist standards. There have been way worse cartoons posted just in the last week, why get upset over this one rather than an actually abhorrent one? I think it was mainly that he knew that what he made was racist, and he drew attention to the fact that he knew that it was racist by re-releasing a marginally less racist variant while ignoring that most of the racism is loaded in the premise and not the caricature.
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Abyssal Squid posted:I think it was mainly that he knew that what he made was racist, and he drew attention to the fact that he knew that it was racist by re-releasing a marginally less racist variant while ignoring that most of the racism is loaded in the premise and not the caricature. Yeah, it's like if somebody posted a racist tweet filled with racial slurs, but then went back to replace the vowels in the slurs with asterisks when called out on it. The intent is still real loving racist, but now the tools used to demonstrate the racism are a little less pointed. It's a little shocking, but not surprising to see a holiday centered around being grateful for what you have be subtly morphed into FYGM: The Holiday by conservatives. They're very grateful they have what they have, and they'd like to make sure they still feel that way by making sure as few people as possible have what they have too. ErIog fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Nov 23, 2014 |
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GOP GOT NOT HIN Where does this guy stash his boosterism-flavored Kool-Aid, anyway? And can I get some? I want to be this unwaveringly happy about everything.
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Twelve by Pies posted:The only time I've really disagreed with this thread about the racism in a cartoon was the one that was I think Beeler, about the watermelon toothpaste. It was Holbert, of Skull Donkey fame. 
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Mister Beeg posted:How about a Gahan Wilson GAHAN! Reading through old National Lampoons and being terribly disgusted by their "offensive" humor it was always nice to get a break whenever one of Gahan's comics came up. There is a gentle sweetness to the stuff he does, even when he takes it to a dark place. I would love to see more of his political cartoons if you find any.
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For some reason I only just realized that the Ron Cobbs being posted here are by THE Ron Cobb. What an amazing illustrator. I wish I had his career.
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Scene: a man and woman are in a house. The man is lying on a couch while the woman sits against a wall because they spent all their money on pens instead of furniture. The man looks at his wife. "Remember Comet Guy who cried when the feminazis bitched?" he says. "I got you an original commemorative pen." "Oh em gee," his wife responds, taking the pen from him. "Elly Prizeman's scifi chick pattern?" "Sam, flip it upside down," the man says. She turns the pen as if she was going to write with it. "Woah. Their clothing goes away. Man-haters like my sister are gonna demand to know where I got this." "Tell 'em you know a guy," her husband quips. Then, a moment later, he says "Had another pen done. See?" His wife looks at the second pen. "Ugh. Obama holding the U.S. flag? Are you-" "Flip it over so the nib points down for writing," he interrupts. "Oh! He loses his clothes- he's naked!" She is struck by why her husband has such an array of pens featuring naked people, and makes a mental note to investigate this sometime later. "I call it the 'Emperor's Pen'," her husband smirks. "Can I have this? The first one?" she asks. "Sorry. Sent the prototype to the emperor," he responds. Cut to: the White House, where Goku has just gone super saiyan on the front lawn. President Obama is currently signing a presidential veto on a bill passed through Congress on party lines, that would order every woman in America to name their firstborn
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Rorus Raz posted:"Imagine Obama...naked." O M G ! !
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 Now watch me drive this joke into the ground in only fore panels!
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Zed has finished his transition to Sam Elliot and it's really disconcerting.
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First, I zomguh'd. Then I roffeled. Then I sent it to my bieffeffs, but they said they were too busy watching their grandkids and to stop emailing them, so I was like, whatevs!!
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corn in the bible posted:KHALIL BENDIB Dick Cheney looking good in a slimming black burqua there.
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Apple Pie Hubbub posted:http://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/columnists/2014/11/22/jeff-taylor-gary-varvel-thanksgiving-cartoon-immigration-opinion/19408509/ i'm sorry you were offended.txt
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I haven't posted MacKay in a while but bunnyofdoom has been picking up the slack from time to time. Here are some recent ones though: 1 2 3Maybe my new favourite personification of debt.  4Stephen Harper maintains very strict control over his entire party, from ministers down to backbench MPs, candidates, and staff.  5Major credit to MacKay for including Big Ears Teddy.  6Canada sent six planes to help bomb ISIS, but our planes are really old and require huge amounts of maintenance. Periodically they just fall out of the sky. We're supposed to replace them with the F-35, but well, it's the F-35.  7
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I've been wondering why people like Muir are still going on about Matt Taylor's shirt long after he apologized. My theory is that realizing you might be wrong and honestly apologizing for it is anathema to modern conservative thinking and they can't possibly imagine doing so except under duress.
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vyelkin posted:I haven't posted MacKay in a while but bunnyofdoom has been picking up the slack from time to time. Here are some recent ones though: I thought that was aparticularly unfaltering take on Rona Ambrose, but I guess she does have a fairly thick neck. 
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The Dark One posted:I thought that was aparticularly unfaltering take on Rona Ambrose, but I guess she does have a fairly thick neck. Is that unfaltering a typo? Because it sounds like you're saying that it was an apt caricature.
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DarklyDreaming posted:I've been wondering why people like Muir are still going on about Matt Taylor's shirt long after he apologized. My theory is that realizing you might be wrong and honestly apologizing for it is anathema to modern conservative thinking and they can't possibly imagine doing so except under duress. It's more that he cried during the apology so the spin is that those evil feminists were just so MEAN to him that it hurt his feelings really bad and therefore they're all terrible people for picking on this poor man. If he hadn't cried then they probably wouldn't have talked about it for this long.
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The Dark One posted:I thought that was aparticularly unfaltering take on Rona Ambrose, but I guess she does have a fairly thick neck. Whoa, did she used to wrestlenor something?
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Twelve by Pies posted:It's more that he cried during the apology so the spin is that those evil feminists were just so MEAN to him that it hurt his feelings really bad and therefore they're all terrible people for picking on this poor man. If he hadn't cried then they probably wouldn't have talked about it for this long. Which is an amazing turnaround from how these types usually treat men who cry.
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vyelkin posted:Cut to: the White House, where Goku has just gone super saiyan on the front lawn. So weird...There's a repeating shape or two in there; maybe he tried to draw something and merged his layers, then ran out of step-backwards? For someone who pays such close attention to the curves of the naked woman he's tracing, this has me stumped. Plague of Hats posted:Which is an amazing turnaround from how these types usually treat men who cry. Unless those men are admitting to an affair with an aid/prostitute or are Speaker of the House recollecting a sad memory...
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Is this supposed to be an Ebola toon? Someone please remind me of Ebola's resounding success in the United States. 
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RyokoTK posted:Is this supposed to be an Ebola toon? Someone please remind me of Ebola's resounding success in the United States. The shark is angry and white. The naive fish is green. This is obviously allegory for people to put their money where their mouth is. Yea, I have no idea either.
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That's not how the czar system works.
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Shark Czar would be a rad as gently caress Civil Service position. "Mr. President, I have some sudden and shocking news about sharks. They are loving rad." 
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Mister Beeg posted:Few more Ron Cobb cartoons: Allen Wren posted:This dude is utterly brutal, and I love it. He reminds me a bit of Franquin during his "Idées noires" days:  (this is from the late seventies/early eighties)
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IndustrialApe posted:He reminds me a bit of Franquin during his "Idées noires" days: Just in case anyone asks: "Oof! No use deceiving myself... I'm a nobody" "I'll always just be one among millions of others..." "I'll never understand how some manage to achieve more... to climb faster and higher than others..."
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edit: maybe I'm just confused because the emperor never gets his clothes back in the fable. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Nov 23, 2014 |
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