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The show is legitimately good. I was thinking of highlighting some of the differences after we got done with book one and had introduced 99% of the stuff it dealt with. But yeah, like you, until I began re-reading this, I swore that... uh... THAT SEGMENT was much earlier in the novel and just took forever. No. It only feels that way.
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# ? Nov 22, 2014 07:14 |
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I know exactly what you're talking about and I too was surprised to see we're half through without getting to it yet. I guess it just looms large in memory because .
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# ? Nov 22, 2014 08:41 |
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Just a quick point of order: Richard is still a huge dick, but he doesn't send Kahlan off unarmed. Your quoted passage has him putting Kahlan's knife back in the sheath on her belt. Because, I mean, a knife will totally defend her from giant predators that eat humans.
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# ? Nov 22, 2014 10:05 |
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malkav11 posted:Just a quick point of order: Richard is still a huge dick, but he doesn't send Kahlan off unarmed. Your quoted passage has him putting Kahlan's knife back in the sheath on her belt. Because, I mean, a knife will totally defend her from giant predators that eat humans. I will be the first to admit I finished the first book/my quotes while slightly drunk, and the delay is cleaning up what I have written into something legible. My bad for mistaking that.
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 04:29 |
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So let's take a minute to examine Darken Rahl. Sure, he's an incredible strawman of things the author hates, and he's cartoonishly evil, but he is, despite this, a solid villain. His father's plan of "take the world by force" screwed up, so what did he do? He began waging a propaganda war, where even if he doesn't win over everyone, he's at least kept people divided instead of allied against a single threat. Meanwhile, his quest to get the Boxes of Orden is actually going drat well. His only real mistake is kicking that into gear before getting all three, but look out! He's only barely kept from getting the last by Giller, and even then it is skin-of-the-teeth. Hell, look at how that goes: makes a play of alliance to that kingdom when he knows the Box is there, tell them he'll show up in a week, then just drop by the next day to gently caress up anyone plotting. I mention this because immediately after they make up, Richard and Kahlan stumble upon the next phase of his PR campaign. quote:Even from a distance, Richard and Kahlan both knew that something was wrong. The mill was silent, the streets empty. The whole town should have been alive with activity. There should have been people at the shops, on the docks, at the mill, and in the streets, but there was no sign of beast or man. The town hunched in quiet, except for some tarps flapping in the wind, and a few squeaking and banging tin panels on the mill buildings. Divide. And. Conquer. Good poo poo. This is a good villain. He is planning ahead and keeping people off-guard, but not straight up god-moding over everything. He can be thwarted (see: Giller), but there's contingencies all over the place (see: "Yeah, some loving rear end in a top hat took the manual to these, but he stole a bone too and I can track that."). A few survivors are around, women and children save one young and one old man somehow overlooked. Needless to say, the "Westlanders" were brutal and of course there were rapes aplenty. I'm not quoting that bit. Richard gets sulky again and says "it wasn't us!" over and over to Kahlan. Seriously, it's almost all he says. quote:Richard shook his head in wonderment. "Then what?" Somehow in the middle of this, they stumble onto Rachel. What follows is one of the most awkward loving scenes as they: - try to break the loaf of bread she has the Box of Orden hidden in - try to bring her along when they head to Tamarang (reminder: where Violet lives) - literally threaten to skin Giller alive quote:Kahlan smiled. "We are going to Tamarang, to see the Queen." Rachel stopped chewing. She couldn't breathe. "We will take you with us. I'm sure the Queen will be able to find someone to take care of you, if I ask." I really enjoy these early Rachel segments, because while she's still a child, she's just clever enough that watching the world from her perspective, and seeing the conclusions she draws from it, is distinct from drat near anyone else in the novels. And sometimes it's hilarious. quote:Richard mussed her hair. "See you in the morning, little one." Amazingly, because she's so tiny and is careful to not get scratched by trees/burrs, she's almost impossible for Richard to track. So Rachel is off in the world alone again! Hope nothing terrible happens to her. Rather than leave you on that note, though, let's all laugh at this: quote:"Kahlan, it isn't your fault." Our heroes, ladies and gentlemen.
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 04:31 |
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DARKSEID DICK PICS posted:
I would have loved to be in the room when they were designing this whole Confessor system. "So if they have a male child, it might turn into a world-destroying evil. Anything we can do about that?" "Nope, they're just going to have kill their own baby if that happens." "Sounds good. Now, is there any way we could let them have sex with someone without confessing them?" "Nope, they'll just have to destroy the ego of anyone they love." "OK, that's fine. Now, what if they want to cut their own hair short?" "We definitely have to figure out a way to prevent that. Let's cause them a lot of pain if they try." "Sounds good to me."
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 08:17 |
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DARKSEID DICK PICS posted:
What? Why the gently caress not?
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 08:17 |
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Skrewtape posted:I would have loved to be in the room when they were designing this whole Confessor system. Yeah. The weird arbitrariness of this stuff is driven home by how a lot of magic isn't subject to such curses. It makes it seem less like arcane trade-offs to build wonders, and more like just wizards being assholes sometimes.
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 08:21 |
Is the hair-cutting thing intentional, or is it just a side effect nobody in the Wizard Cool Club felt like fixing?
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 08:24 |
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Wizards being assholes is a time honored tradition going back throughout history. E: Maybe they meant to fix it in a later patch but then they ran out of money and were put on a different project before they could get around to it.
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 08:25 |
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MonsieurChoc posted:Wizards being assholes is a time honored tradition going back throughout history. I was going to make a programing analogy exactly like this. You can practically see the comments too. Unintentional bug: confessor unable to cut own hair. Repeatable. Something to do with power conduits in hair? Eh, it's back burner anyways until we figure out the evil men bug.
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 08:33 |
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DARKSEID DICK PICS posted:
My god... it's almost as though people in possession of different information and upbringings can come to a conclusion other than A = A! (I will say I reckon Rachel has come to the correct conclusion, i.e. 'These people are awful, I have to get the hell away from them' but Richard and Kahlahn assume Giller is a jerk, because Zedd said so.) It's almost as though an underling has witnessed and been directly subjected to abuse by people in positions of power over them, and are reluctant to simply take others at their word when they say 'We won't do this stuff', especially when they talk about their other horrible plans in the same sentence. Even in a book that tries to show us why objectivism is correct, it underlines it's inherent flaws.
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 08:43 |
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Zereth posted:Is the hair-cutting thing intentional, or is it just a side effect nobody in the Wizard Cool Club felt like fixing? I think it's left unaddressed, like so many other things. Sometimes magic is just awesome, and sometimes you have to eat dung to make it work. The fact that both kinds exist suggests that sometimes wizards just gently caress around.
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:52 |
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Plague of Hats posted:I think her "cooldown" time is still given as, like, hours. Which I can believe Goodkind would think is not enough time for a really manly man to finish the job. Because the manliest thing one can do with sex is turn it into an overlong chore. They're only supposed to hump mindslaves so they can compel them to execute male babies.
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 13:08 |
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DARKSEID DICK PICS posted:Since from memory we will never see his half of the scene and just have it described by Rahl: know that Giller went out like a goddamn boss. He went all Goku and threw his lifeforce into a final deathblow of "Wizard's Life Fire". It's probably not ruining it to say it didn't work, but still, at least he went whole-assed into that attempt. Then, as you say, he self destructs in an attempt to kill Rahl, but really just to cover her escape. He's pretty much the only "traditional" hero in the whole story. But I still like to think he gave an awesome one liner and flipped Rahl off at the end. "Hey, Rahl. Time to blow this Popsicle stand."
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 13:16 |
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TheCenturion posted:They're only supposed to hump mindslaves so they can compel them to execute male babies. Sure, that's part of it. Still, the vast majority of thought the characters give it falters at the most easily solved part of the problem. Considering how magnetically attracted their genitals are, this hurdle should've been cleared long ago. Edit: I mean, the primary reason they don't solve this very quickly, like most of their problems, is because the author doesn't want them to do it yet. The secondmost is because, as has been discussed, these idiots withhold vital information from each other constantly. That Old Tree fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Nov 23, 2014 |
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TheCenturion posted:He's pretty much the only "traditional" hero in the whole story. But I still like to think he gave an awesome one liner and flipped Rahl off at the end. "Hey, Rahl. Time to blow this Popsicle stand." "I hear you're a vegan. Let me introduce you to the taste... of barbecue!" *fwoosh*
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 13:35 |
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Goodkind is even pretty bad at objectivism. He constantly makes it clear that power used correctly is used for the sake of others. Ayn Rand wouldn't even give him the time of day until he removed that altruistic pap and made Darken Rahl the hero of the series. He's more like a teenager who is pissed off at the hypocrisy of the establishment and blames THOSE SHEEPLE for the system they are stuck surviving in. I know that's a pretty fine distinction, but it's important to note that Goodkind cannot even get the hamfisted psuedophilosophy he actually believes in right. Rand would love the rape bits and would probably have Richard overcome the Confessor problem by having him rape Kahlan, who would then realize that Confessors just need to be taken by a Real Man, who only loves, respects, or admires his own reflected ubermenschood in others. Hodgepodge fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Nov 23, 2014 |
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Hodgepodge posted:Goodkind is even pretty bad at objectivism. He constantly makes it clear that power used correctly is used for the sake of others. Ayn Rand wouldn't even give him the time of day until he removed that altruistic pap and made Darken Rahl the hero of the series. This is why Robert Howard's Conan is the "best" Randian fantasy series, it doesn't try to hide the fact that it's about a Randian ubermensch who only cares about his own survival and personal gain instead of trying to dress it up as a heroic conflict of "Good" vs "Evil"
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 19:46 |
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Hodgepodge posted:Rand would love the rape bits and would probably have Richard overcome the Confessor problem by having him rape Kahlan, who would then realize that Confessors just need to be taken by a Real Man, who only loves, respects, or admires his own reflected ubermenschood in others. hahahahaha hahahahahahahaha I AM SAVING THIS POST FOR LATER
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Yaldabaoth posted:This is why Robert Howard's Conan is the "best" Randian fantasy series, it doesn't try to hide the fact that it's about a Randian ubermensch who only cares about his own survival and personal gain instead of trying to dress it up as a heroic conflict of "Good" vs "Evil" Nah, you basically misunderstand both Conan and Objectivism. Personal gain is big G Good in Objectivism. That's the whole point of the pseudophilosophy--to morally justify greed. Conan, especially Howard's version is interested in much more than just survival and personal gain. He is a "noble savage" who sees through "civilized" man's hypocrisy. Conan in Rand's world would slaughter the residents of Galt's Gulch, take the machine, and then give it away because the only unlimited source of energy a real man needs is his own strong arms.
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 20:32 |
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Our heroes wander for a day or so and then this happens. Please note: this is just as completely out of nowhere in the text as this transcription, I just saved you ten pages of moping.quote:The moon was well up by the time Kahlan had a stew cooking on the fire, and by a bit of luck that surprised him, Richard had two rabbits in the snare before he expected to, and was able to add them to the pot. Richard, in what's an incredibly sane move, tests him to make sure he's actually Zedd (after two illusions and counting). His test is mildly weak given that it's "does he break spiderwebs", but it seems to work. If that wasn't proof that it was the real Zedd, though, there's the fact that he continues to own. quote:Richard walked him back to the fire, an arm around his shoulders. "Sorry about that, but I had to know for sure. I can't believe you're here! I'm so glad to see you! I'm so happy you're all right. We have so much to talk about." Also the wizards all have a magic sky castle. Well. HAD. quote:"Where was it?" Kahlan asked. "What happened?" So. Let's get into something that's supposed to be massive and life-changing and really explains a lot about this world. quote:"It was Rahl's own men who did it, by his command." The fact that "people are dumb" is a golden truth known only by wizards in this world really says it all, doesn't it? Also that "truth is power", because recall that a central tenet of objectivism is that "objectivism is truth, therefore those who reject it are weak or ignorant". So Truth Is Power = "objectivists are the strongest". Fun fact: my copy of this book was not a first printing, but it was early enough that it refers to the upcoming "Wizard's Second Rule (coming soon)" inside. Some of you are already aware this is not what the second book became known as, but hey! At one point he was trying to make this entire series nothing but Lessons On How To Be A Wizard. Let's see an example of "people are stupid/unquestioning" ten seconds later. quote:"But the ones who did the killing, they knew. It was murder. How could they do it?" So Kahlan, surrounded by wizards her entire life, has both a) never heard the Wizard's First Rule before, and b) just goes "FINE, gently caress IT" whenever they start talking. I'm beginning to see how it is that nobody in this world figured out the myriad flaws in their existence before now.
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 20:36 |
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I couldn't help but feel at this point that Zedd was just making poo poo up as he went along. "So, um... this is why these ancient wizards did these really messed up things. Can't trust people to think clearly. Too easily taken in by misinformation. Can't get the truth without making a few mindslaves, and a sword that turns you into an angry murderbeast, and a deformed murderbeast if you lose it."
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 21:01 |
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The whole trees are murderers speech was the dumbest thing I had ever read until I got further into the book. What Goodkind and by extension Zedd don't seem to understand is that murder is an action with intent behind it. Trees can't have intent (outside of The Happening and other schlock films) so they can't murder. They can kill, but so can an avalanche or a forest fire or a supernova, but you never see the headline 'Rockslide Murders Twenty' unless they're talking about some guy named Rockslide.
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 21:03 |
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It wouldn't surprise me if intent was unfathomable to Goodkind. Murder is killing, tree kills, therefore tree murders. A=A, motherfucker - nature is murder I'm a wizard let's eat I'm hungry.
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 21:13 |
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Note that Zedd is telling Richard things that only wizards are supposed to know. Oh, sure, he makes an excuse, but...that's not why.
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 21:14 |
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malkav11 posted:Note that Zedd is telling Richard things that only wizards are supposed to know. Oh, sure, he makes an excuse, but...that's not why.
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 22:22 |
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Nihilarian posted:he's also telling Kahlan, though. She's a magical creature, like a dragon or a magical dog. She obviously doesn't count in Zedd's eyes.
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# ? Nov 23, 2014 22:35 |
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Thanks to Wizard Paranoia, Richard does the right thing. By accident.quote:Richard remembered Zedd telling him that he must have the courage to do what was necessary for their goal, and he must be prepared to kill any one of them if it came to that. Richard knew Zedd, and he knew that Zedd wasn't just making a point—he meant what he said. He knew that Zedd was capable of killing him, or, more important, Kahlan. I like how he assumes that if he knew the book was Richard now, he'd kill Kahlan, which is a much weaker solution than killing Richard. Anyway, Zedd takes second watch, meaning the two briefly talk before Richard goes to bed. Richard is still a little pissed about the whole "hey, so, Samuel the Gollum, what the gently caress?!" thing. quote:"I don't want to go on. And what of Samuel? Is that what is to become of me?" hahahahahaha the best part is that if he were to kill Zedd, it would probably work the same way, too. You'll see what I mean later, first-timers. The rest of the chapter is Kahlan and Zedd talking, and talking about prophecies and those being self-fulfilling... but a witch-woman's prophecies are always correct. Just. You know. Twisty and all. So blah blah the Wizard's Keep had a bunch of prophecies and Richard and Kahlan are in a few of them, because who the hell else would "the last Mother Confessor" and some Seeker be? quote:"Well, yes and no. That's not how it works. You seldom know for sure. But in this case, I do. It says things like, 'The last Mother Confessor' this, and 'The last Mother Confessor' that, but there can be no doubt who the last Mother Confessor is. It is you, Kahlan. There can also be no doubt who 'the Seeker who commands the wind against the heir to D'Hara' is. It is Richard. Heir to D'Hara is Rahl." I love Zedd. Meanwhile, he explains some of why he picked Richard as a Seeker, and it's... I have to admit, this is mildly clever and one of those conversations only this character would have. In fact, I'm just going to say it: I think a huge part of why I like Zedd so much is that even though he's one of the driving characters of the series, he's always distinct in a way most of the other cast aren't. quote:Zedd gave a little laugh. "Have you ever been able to feel the target? Have you ever been able to ignore all the noise in your head and hear the silence, and know where the arrow is going to go?" It's a good point: Richard is going the direct route because he doesn't know poo poo-all about the Midlands, and neither Kahlan or Zedd are filling him in on things until AFTER he makes a decision (see: "What? Oh gently caress no we're not visiting Shota, that is THE WORST IDEA" "Shut up and guide me"). Anyway, uh. The initiation to being a wizard is not very high, which explains why a lot of apparent assholes were able to do it years ago: quote:Zedd straightened his back and put his fists on his hips. "Bags! Richard, do you have any idea what you have just done?" Also, let's get to a direct lie! And the question we've all been wondering. quote:Richard squirmed uncomfortably. "And just what kind of wizard are you anyway? You don't even have a beard." HUGE LIE. Or a retcon. I don't know which. But this is a rule that goes out the loving window within one book's time. Also Zedd hosed Adie so hard her foot regrew. No, really. quote:"A wife?" I'm not going to quote it, but this chapter ends with Rachel pissing herself at a gar attack. Man, I wish I didn't have to read that.
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# ? Nov 24, 2014 10:16 |
Why can't Zedd change his beard into one which is not connected to his body anymore? He can turn a loving bug into a flower, and he can turn a rock into dust. But he can't magic his beard off his face!
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# ? Nov 24, 2014 10:33 |
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Zereth posted:Why can't Zedd change his beard into one which is not connected to his body anymore? He can turn a loving bug into a flower, and he can turn a rock into dust. Or why did he need Richard's knife, couldn't he just magic the rock into an razor? Or for that matter, couldn't he just magic his beard into knives and then just leave them laying around.
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# ? Nov 24, 2014 10:38 |
Bucnasti posted:Or for that matter, couldn't he just magic his beard into knives and then just leave them laying around. Come on now, that would just be irresponsible!
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# ? Nov 24, 2014 11:06 |
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Shotguns, man. Shotguns everywhere.
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# ? Nov 24, 2014 11:32 |
I feel like this is going to be an appropriate response to nearly anything done by a wizard ever in this series.
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# ? Nov 24, 2014 11:37 |
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Alright, so am I getting this right? Darkface Rahl needs a confessor and that book (which is now Richard) to do his thing with the boxes. Richard realises that if he told Zedd and Zedd killed him, it would probably be best for all involved. Better still, Richard doesn't even care whether he lives or dies, and would seem to pretty much welcome death. He only doesn't tell Zedd because he worries that Zedd will then for whatever reason kill Kahlan instead. Ýou'd think that Richard could just handily solve everything by just killing himself. Or going into the woods to wrestle a gar or something. Especially since not too long ago he pretty much outright told Kahlan to do the same thing for the same reasons, because she had the audacity to be conflicted/depressed about her central role in the whole thing.
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# ? Nov 24, 2014 11:41 |
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Perestroika posted:Alright, so am I getting this right? Darkface Rahl needs a confessor and that book (which is now Richard) to do his thing with the boxes. Richard realises that if he told Zedd and Zedd killed him, it would probably be best for all involved. Better still, Richard doesn't even care whether he lives or dies, and would seem to pretty much welcome death. He only doesn't tell Zedd because he worries that Zedd will then for whatever reason kill Kahlan instead. Yes. You have it 100% right. A Confessor is required to use the prophecies, but the book exists only in one man's head. Clearly, the easy solution is to exterminate all Confessors rather than END THE BOOK FOREVER. Richard's logic.
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# ? Nov 24, 2014 11:47 |
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The three of them plan to head into Tamarang using the cover of the Mother Confessor making a visit, with her "cloud reader" and the Seeker of Truth as envoys. They camp out for the night and then the beast that's been following them for ages comes in, before it gets clowned on by a wolf. A talking wolf. I KNEW THAT WAS THIS SERIES. quote:Kahlan straightened herself and put her fists on her hips. "Brophy!" she called into the darkness. "Brophy! I know you're out there. Come here this instant!" So yes. Talking animals. Apparently it's any animal, not just dogs, so I misremembered slightly, but eh. I WAS RIGHT. quote:"Do you wish to tell the story?" That's kind of awesome, you have to admit. "Look, how the gently caress was I supposed to know that was a petrified person and not a magic statue?" quote:Kahlan gave the wolf a little smile. "Brophy had a reputation that, although not unearned, was larger than the truth." She looked up at Richard. "The business he was in was dangerous, and therefore very profitable. Brophy made enough money at it to support his 'hobby.' Almost no one knew about it until after I touched him, and he made his confession." Reminder: Demmin Nass is Rahl's pedophile right hand, if you've forgotten. Spoilers: because this world is so lovely, Brophy will NOT kill Nass, and in fact, if I remember correctly, Nass actually kills him later. This might be cool by you, depending on how you feel about otherkin: quote:"I didn't want to take his confession." Kahlan picked up a stick and pushed at the dirt. "I knew he wouldn't have requested a Confessor unless he was innocent. I talked to the judge; he said that in view of the crime, he would not commute the sentence. It was death or a confession. Brophy insisted upon the confession." Richard could see the firelight reflecting in the wetness of her green eyes. "Afterward, I asked him to pick another creature he would choose to be, if he had a choice. He chose a wolf. Why a wolf, I don't know." She smiled a little. "I guess it fits his nature." Thanks, Terry. Therry. The next day they march into Tamarang and it goes about as well as you'd expect. Everyone gets the gently caress out of the Mother Confessor's way and then Richard whips out his sword in an eight-year-old's face. quote:"My daughter, the Princess Violet. Violet, dear, this is the Mother Confessor." Blah blah Kahlan frees all the prisoners "in the name of truth" from the queen's dungeon, asks to see Giller. Zedd points out he died in the most spiteful way possible to give Rahl the finger, which is pretty metal. quote:The room was destroyed. Completely. The roof was gone, as if it had been blasted away, letting in the sunlight and sky. Only a few of the exposed beams remained. A rope hung from one of the beams. Awwww. :3 Sadly, Giller's death means they are back at square one in terms of what the gently caress to do, and Richard is stumped. Thank god the answer literally rides up to them. quote:Richard touched the hilt of the sword for reassurance as he watched the four horses raising a cloud of dust that turned golden in the setting sun. Soon the sound of thundering hooves reached him. The lone rider bent over his mount, urging him on. Richard lifted the sword a little in its scabbard, checking that it was clear, then let it drop back. As the darkly clad rider approached, Richard realized he looked familiar. Hey, remember when Zedd just walked up to them out of nowhere a few chapters back, and how that was never explained? Well, that happened again, and even more improbably. Chase is adopting Rachel, if Chase trusts the crew, that's good enough for her, and so she pulls the box out. (This is a gross oversimplification, but basically a combo of Brophy, who she knew pre-wolf, the tale of Richard pulling a sword on Violet, and Chase going "Yeah, they cool" gets her to give up the box.) Even better! Michael Cypher has brought an army of a thousand men to hold the pass into the Midlands now that the boundary has fallen. They all go to take care of that and oops! Violet's court artist is a magic artist and cast a spell on Richard, because he couldn't on Zedd or Kahlan for ???. (They really don't explain why those two are immune, they just tell us so.) In what is actually a really cool magic duel, James the magician tries to crush Richard in a second spell while Richard tries to alter the drawing to suddenly be missing one hand (ie, like James) and reverse it. This takes place in a dark cave where Richard is carefully drawing the Night Stone for seconds at a time to see vs. the risk of the shadow beings eating him alive. I will give it legit props. But I'm not quoting it because this is long enough already, it's a long sequence, and it ends with something you need to see. quote:The artist's pleading eyes came up to him. "I... wasn't going to let it kill you… only trap you..." Oh yes. Oh yes. For reference: we're nearly at page 700 of an ~800 page book, and this is what every loving person who reads this novel remembers the most clearly and tends to think was much longer than it was.
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# ? Nov 24, 2014 11:48 |
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DARKSEID DICK PICS posted:Oh yes. For reference: we're nearly at page 700 of an ~800 page book, and this is what every loving person who reads this novel remembers the most clearly and tends to think was much longer than it was. This reminds me of my impressions when I actually read the thing myself. "That was pretty terrible. But there's a solid 200 page fantasy novel struggling to get out despite the author's best efforts." One centred round Zed, Giller, and Darken Rahl, with Richard being a minor sidekick and there to be the recipient of infodumps.
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# ? Nov 24, 2014 12:07 |
DARKSEID DICK PICS posted:The next day they march into Tamarang and it goes about as well as you'd expect. Everyone gets the gently caress out of the Mother Confessor's way and then Richard whips out his sword in an eight-year-old's face. I love these little parts that make it clear that the villains and
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 07:51 |
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:I love these little parts that make it clear that the villains and That seems to feed back into the whole objectivist thing about people being either objectively good or evil. Oh, Violet's only a small child who was raised terribly and grew up in the most toxic environment possible? Doesn't matter, she's inherently and irredeemably evil, feel free to kick her in the head a bunch. Also, "Mord-Sith"? How the hell is Goodkind coming up with these names?
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# ? Nov 24, 2014 12:32 |