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Then why the hell would he risk this? I mean, when people see Photoshop-filtered pictures, they tend to look for the originals, don't they? I mean, hell, people found the originals here in like five minutes. It's gotta be a case of him hoping nobody's going to notice.
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Evil Mastermind posted:Then why the hell would he risk this? I mean, when people see Photoshop-filtered pictures, they tend to look for the originals, don't they? I mean, hell, people found the originals here in like five minutes. Well, like Dagon helpfully posted earlier:  Someone noticed and now he's in a bind. (check the timestamp.)
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Nov 24, 2014 21:13
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Evil Mastermind posted:Okay, so honest question here: how legal is taking non-public domain art and editing it to put in a paid product? Is this actually illegal or is it just "shady"? I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure it's illegal, unless you're a pop artist, then you make millions by copying someone else's work. I think it's a pretty high up there ability in the Pop Artist prestige class, while GMS is just a level 1 Game Designer.
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Nov 24, 2014 21:18
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Rulebook Heavily posted:
Wow... If that is in response to the stolen images, I can't understand GMS's thinking. Just pull the images, apologize and get them replaced. But no, let's contact NBC Universal, cause they'll totally get back to you in a month so you can still make the deadline.
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Nov 24, 2014 21:24
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It's entirely possible it's just one more step in his flailing attempts to build a vast TRANSMEDIA buzzword empire.
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Nov 24, 2014 21:27
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Plague of Hats posted:It's entirely possible it's just one more step in his flailing attempts to build a vast TRANSMEDIA buzzword empire. I'm sure media companies are chomping at the bit to get a piece of this valuable train wreck of a property. Didn't he also announce a tv show and other ridiculous daydream poo poo?
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Nov 24, 2014 21:30
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Gravy Train Robber posted:I'm sure media companies are chomping at the bit to get a piece of this valuable train wreck of a property. Didn't he also announce a tv show and other ridiculous daydream poo poo? That's still on the schedule as far as I know. Just, he's got to get this RPG out to build heat! EDIT: I think he actually did fulfill the short fiction anthology? Which, I mean, is built primarily of other people's work, so.
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Nov 24, 2014 21:31
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I hope someone gets inspired enough to go through the back catalogue of artwork now.
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Rulebook Heavily posted:I hope someone gets inspired enough to go through the back catalogue of artwork now. Isn't it mostly just photoshopped filters of backers? I love where some of backers demanded GMS not use their images in the book because of how bad everything looked. I'm not a backer I just love following this because its hilarious
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Nov 24, 2014 21:50
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Gravy Train Robber posted:I'm not a backer I just love following this because its hilarious Same here, I only just found out about this glorious trainwreck today. 
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Nov 24, 2014 21:54
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Also it's important to remember that this project started in the early days of Kickstarter with this before Lessons Were Learned™. (Far West being one of the important examples.)
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Nov 24, 2014 21:57
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I'm a bit perplexed that he made the art a backer-only update on Kickstarter, when he also posted the update for all to see on his Far West webzone. EDIT: Oh, I guess one of the pics is still exclusive content. It's the best one, too.
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Nov 24, 2014 22:10
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Obviously we should stop being mean and try to help the man finish faster. "Fresco" filter a go go!
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Rulebook Heavily posted:Obviously we should stop being mean and try to help the man finish faster. "Fresco" filter a go go! Ignoring the cheap filter, or the fact that those Shaolin monks that are supposed to be in an Old West setting are obviously wearing modern athletic shoes... What the gently caress is with those hats? How do you fail basic image compositing that badly? VVV Edit: I guess the jokes on me then. Although I guess it's just a testament to how bad the earlier official work was that I so readily believed it was genuine. Paper Kaiju fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Nov 24, 2014 |
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Paper Kaiju posted:Ignoring the cheap filter, or the fact that those Shaolin monks in an old west setting are obviously wearing modern athletic shoes... I think RBH made that image, just now, to mock Far West with.
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Nov 24, 2014 23:14
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gnome7 posted:I think RBH made that image, just now, to mock Far West with. Yes. Just like this one! 
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Rulebook Heavily posted:Yes. Just like this one! 
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Rulebook Heavily posted:"Fresco" filter a go go! Drybrush and Posterize supremacy.  Maybe thats what all the delays are from! He has two use TWO filters.
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Nov 24, 2014 23:25
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Someone posted the original images on the Far West website asking da fuq.GMS posted:
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"Drawings" he says.
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Plague of Hats posted:Someone posted the original images on the Far West website asking da fuq. Bull. poo poo. The weird gap between the dude and the pants, and the 1:1 match on the silhouette say he's a liar. Seriously, though, that post just added 2 months to the release date, so great job, goons.
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quote:Luke Walker about 1 hour ago quote:Gareth-Michael Skarka about 1 hour ago This man is loving shameless. I can't even believe this.
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Let's be honest, the christmas thing wasn't set in stone. Also, I only just now had it pointed out to me that the mess on notDragon notLee's chest is supposed to be a tattoo. Any guesses on where it's from? Evil Mastermind posted:This man is loving shameless. I can't even believe this. Wow. Nice timing on those posts, too.
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Rulebook Heavily posted:Also, I only just now had it pointed out to me that the mess on notDragon notLee's chest is supposed to be a tattoo. Any guesses on where it's from? Or what it's even supposed to be? 
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Looks like some kind of chinese dragon to me, you can see the head with its jaw open in the lower left. Barely. e: The real question is how readily people will let him get away with it or just shrug. The industry has lowered its standards below even this. Rulebook Heavily fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Nov 24, 2014 |
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Nov 24, 2014 23:48
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I really shouldn't have been surprised by how much worse he can somehow make this.
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Nov 24, 2014 23:49
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Zoomed in to see the dragon, when I notice... Tracing so good it doesn't even use the erase tool on the edges of the belt. Edit: quote:Ah, yes -- I see that this is the result of an RPGnet head-hunt. Dagon fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Nov 24, 2014 |
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Zurui posted:Jeeesus. How did you not just give up on this? I guess I've only backed Kickstarters where the game work is effectively done and they're just waiting on printing/fabrication. I forgot now how long ago it was that I sent 20 bucks to the Tales from the Floating Vagabond guy. Forgetting about it in the months between sad little updates makes it pretty easy.
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Well, this is the guy who screwed everyone out of their Icons Team-Up preorders by only giving them Adamant credit instead of their deposits back when he couldn't print the books. Oh, and told people not to get all "RPGNet angry" about it.
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Dagon posted:Zoomed in to see the dragon, when I notice... Good loving lord, someone throw this into Mr. Reference Photo's face right now. That is almost as shameful as my parody.
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If it's good enough for Greg Land, it's good enough for GMS.
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In not stealing land, there is the Fallen Frontiers kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/298260359/fallen-frontiers-reboot Tabletop game with decent minis, and the alpha rules are a free PDF. The female heroes are armored boobs-and-butt posed, but the troopers look pretty darn nice so far. Not cheap, but I think the basic box is meant to be split between 2 people (as you get 2 armies).
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Anyone remember when GMS all but accused Fred Hicks of fraud because people were praising Evil Hat's transparency policy? That was some hilarious poo poo.
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It wasn't so much accusing Hicks of fraud as it was calling anyone who believed that his good customer service was anything other than a ploy to get more of their nerdbucks an idiot.
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I don't understand how he got as far as he did in the industry with his attitudes. Also reading MalcolmShepherd defend GMS on Gau's blog is hilarious.
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Hey that kickstarter might wind up being good, but it is also a minis-based with confusing pledge tiers, boob-plate and roll-to-hit mechanics, effectively making it hit Bad Kickstarter Bingo without even going through their updates.LordAba posted:In not stealing land, there is the Fallen Frontiers kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/298260359/fallen-frontiers-reboot
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I really need to stop pledging for Miniature based kick starters. I've got Shadows of Brimstone sitting here on my workbench, and I've only completed assembling a small fraction of it. I made the mistake of pledging for Dungeon Saga a few months back, and thinking of how many unfinished miniatures thats going to be makes my head hurt. What sort of options are there for like, reselling KS pledges? I've heard of people who basically do it and then turn around and sell it by changing the shipping address in their pledge managers. I'm just wondering if theres any relatively safe way to do it or if I'm better off just waiting around and putting the actual copy up on ebay once it arrives.
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Gravy Train Robber posted:I really need to stop pledging for Miniature based kick starters. I've got Shadows of Brimstone sitting here on my workbench, and I've only completed assembling a small fraction of it. I made the mistake of pledging for Dungeon Saga a few months back, and thinking of how many unfinished miniatures thats going to be makes my head hurt. I've sold a few Kickstarters on BGG after they arrived, but you can maybe trawl their forums (ugh) if you want your money sooner. It's usually a really good return if you wait, though, depending on how much KS exclusive poo poo came with it and scarcity of the game after its KS release. I'm guessing minis KS's would do really well, doubly so if there's good (and possibly unwarranted) hype about the game on BGG. I'd love to sell my copy of Tiny Epic Kingdoms if it didn't have such a small footprint on my shelf.
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Sorry to continue making GBS threads up the thread with Far West, but I had to: I had to stretch the original slightly to make it fit, but come on. If he's really freehand tracing poo poo so faithfully, no loving wonder it's taking forever.
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Might as well see if anyone wants a crack at identifying this one now that Hats has disturbed the peace.
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