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Volkameria posted:Remember that a fully charged swings with the hammer also gives you a temporary damage boost that lasts a couple seconds (five I think). Adds to the already nuts damage. The lesser charged attack (the pommel butt) is good at staggering. Thanks, I'll try this out. I probably need to unlock that witch hunt; I only played one or two after beating the game and forgot about them.
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enojy posted:Thanks, I'll try this out. I probably need to unlock that witch hunt; I only played one or two after beating the game and forgot about them. The Witch Hunts is the name of Chapter XIV. It's different from the Witch Trials.
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You... can skip the credits...? Is this the first Platinum game in recorded history in which you can skip the credits? (other than, technically, Okami on Wii (and PS3?) in which the credits were skipped)
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Nov 22, 2014 02:05
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Platinum has more games than just Bayo and W101.
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Question. If I collect a Crow on a stage i finished and quit out do I keep that crow, or do I need to finish the stage?
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You keep the crow.
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Finally got around to finishing Bayonetta 1, so I get to move on to the second game. It was a lot more enjoyable this time around, though that's probably just because of all the dodge canceling and specific combo information that I didn't know before. I did get a laugh after all the credit sequences and the save game and the dance party the game remembered it was a WiiU and locked if you didn't have the tablet connected. Now it's time to get wrecked until Shuraba and the red hot kick get unlocked again.
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I just did "The Two Meet" for the first time.  Game of the year all years.
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Don't read if you haven't finished it and want to enjoy the Just to be clear it wasn't me, but that fight against Loki in the past. I was owning the little poo poo and depleted his health bar, yet you still see Bayonetta struggling in the cinematic? And I love the lady butterfly headbut against a meteor and the prophets repsonse when Luka swings in from nowhere.  This game...
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Beef Waifu posted:Platinum has more games than just Bayo and W101. Yeah, they've also got Metal Gear Rising and Vanquish... which you can't skip the credits in. Maybe Mad World or Anarchy Reigns let you skip the credits, I don't remember, but more often than not they've definitely made you sit through them.
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I completely forgot you couldn't skip the credits in MGR, which is funny considering I put like 60+ hours into that game.
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Beef Waifu posted:I completely forgot you couldn't skip the credits in MGR, which is funny considering I put like 60+ hours into that game. It helps that the music on those is really nice. Didn't that credits track specifically win some award or something?
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Fedule posted:It helps that the music on those is really nice. Yeah, the Hollywood Music in Media Award, in the video game category. For what it's worth.
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To be fair the credits in Mad World are amazing and I wouldn't ever wanna skip em.
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Darth TNT posted:Don't read if you haven't finished it and want to enjoy the Pretty classic example of gameplay/cinematic divide. I think it's worth nothing that she doesn't seem to breeze so effortlessly through the cut scenes this time around. Don't get me wrong, I like her being bad rear end, but in the first one it took a long time before anything actually seem to challenge her in the story. In this one, she at least seems to be semi-regularly routed or straight up overpowered or at least not always get her way so effortlessly. And I was really hoping for a post credit dance party this time around. Say, I wanted to ask, on Infinite Climax, what are people doing to capitalize on openings on human size bosses once you score Witch Time? On that difficulty, the window gets awfully short and they always seem to twist out of my air combos/Alruna whip slams outside of Witch Time. This really became a factor during the Lumen Sage fight; I wanted to see if I could move past just doing a couple quick slashes during Witch Time and then going back to fishing for a dodge/parry afterwards. Volkameria fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Nov 24, 2014 |
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Volkameria posted:Say, I wanted to ask, on Infinite Climax, what are people doing to capitalize on openings on human size bosses once you score Witch Time? On that difficulty, the window gets awfully short and they always seem to twist out of my air combos/Alruna whip slams outside of Witch Time. This really became a factor during the Lumen Sage fight; I wanted to see if I could move past just doing a couple quick slashes during Witch Time and then going back to fishing for a dodge/parry afterwards. Chainsaws. They might stay stunned just long enough to get off a Just Release.
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Fedule posted:Chainsaws. They might stay stunned just long enough to get off a Just Release. A what now? You can charge up the chainsaws?
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notZaar posted:A what now? You can charge up the chainsaws? Something like that. You know how if you hold the Chainsaw Button you'll keep on... sawing... the enemy and draw out the animation a bit? Well, if you look closely you'll see that right at the end of the animation the chainsaws glow red. If you let go of the button at that moment (you don't even have to do another attack, just let go), you'll do an extra hit and a surprisingly nice bit of extra damage. This technique is what gives the Chainsaws their DPS. You should basically always be using it if you fight with chainsaws.
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Dag I had no idea about that last bit. That's why I love these types of games.
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Volkameria posted:And I was really hoping for a post credit dance party this time around.
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Volkameria posted:Pretty classic example of gameplay/cinematic divide. I think it's worth nothing that she doesn't seem to breeze so effortlessly through the cut scenes this time around. Don't get me wrong, I like her being bad rear end, but in the first one it took a long time before anything actually seem to challenge her in the story. In this one, she at least seems to be semi-regularly routed or straight up overpowered or at least not always get her way so effortlessly. I also like seeing her having to go all out and try, but it's kind of jarring in certain places when the game difficulty doesn't match up as well as it usually did.  I could accept the whole prophet fight since he gave the vibe that he was just trying to stall for time so the Lumen Sage could kill Loki.So when an Umbran Sage dies, her soul is claimed by demons and she has to spend an eternity wandering in hell. What exactly happens when a Lumen Sage dies? His soul gets claimed by angels and he gets to go to heaven? That doesn't seem that bad as long as the angels keep their masks on.
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No, the Angels claim his soul too because the Lumen Sages made a contract with them meaning they get to do whatever the gently caress they want with him regardless of what he wants. It's not even wandering hell, it's pretty loving clear that Alraune had Jeanne bottled up and used her as a power source so there's nothing stopping the angels from doing the same thing since they're no different from the demons.Darth TNT posted:I also like seeing her having to go all out and try, but it's kind of jarring in certain places when the game difficulty doesn't match up as well as it usually did. This is a silly complaint no matter how you slice it. The game's story is barely where their focus is and Platinum, Capcom, multiple games have always been like this. No matter how hard you kick Vergil's rear end in Rounds 1 and 2, Vergil will still poo poo all over Dante/you will both be equally matched and Arkham will take advantage of you being weakened.
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Darth TNT posted:I also like seeing her having to go all out and try, but it's kind of jarring in certain places when the game difficulty doesn't match up as well as it usually did. I imagine the angels' punishment for failing them isn't too pleasant. The witches probably do get the worse deal, though. And I'll also throw in that Bayonetta having to visibly try, a little bit, is a good thing on occasion. Not that she wasn't in the first game, but she rarely looked it. Seeing a character who is cocky bravado nearly 100% of the time have to visibly get serious or angry gives those situations a bit more edge and makes things like the umbran armor feel cooler, and I think overall it was used pretty well. She struggles a tiny bit against either equals or literally gods (or I'm just forgetting other instances), so I don't so much mind that. Now if they'd had her in a titanic struggle against like a measly Beloved or something, that would not do. chumbler fucked around with this message at 09:39 on Nov 25, 2014 |
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Beef Waifu posted:No, the Angels claim his soul too because the Lumen Sages made a contract with them meaning they get to do whatever the gently caress they want with him regardless of what he wants. It's not even wandering hell, it's pretty loving clear that Alraune had Jeanne bottled up and used her as a power source so there's nothing stopping the angels from doing the same thing since they're no different from the demons. Yes, Jeanne was captured and used as a battery, but the situation of her demise seemed to be special as well. She was knocked out of her body and apparently would've been able to get back in if the hands hadn't grabbed her? Regardless of that, it's clear torment is involved. I don't really know much about angels. Just that they like resurrecting gods and wear masks of baby faces. We could be the villain, we could be the heroes, we could be ambiguous. At least we're badass. I disagree. Indeed, there is little focus on the story. However adding in a boss fight that's very hard to win is easy. Just make him as strong as Rodin. If you win, awesome, if you lose it's to be expected. chumbler posted:I imagine the angels' punishment for failing them isn't too pleasant. The witches probably do get the worse deal, though. And I'll also throw in that Bayonetta having to visibly try, a little bit, is a good thing on occasion. Not that she wasn't in the first game, but she rarely looked it. Seeing a character who is cocky bravado nearly 100% of the time have to visibly get serious or angry gives those situations a bit more edge and makes things like the umbran armor feel cooler, and I think overall it was used pretty well. She struggles a tiny bit against either equals or literally gods (or I'm just forgetting other instances), so I don't so much mind that. Now if they'd had her in a titanic struggle against like a measly Beloved or something, that would not do.
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It's probably too early to ask but what do you guys think about the odds of seeing part III? Obviously pretty much all of the stuff that was left out of B1 was used in B2 so they would have to come up with a lot of new material, and Nintendo would most likely still have to finance it.
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Mr. Neutron posted:It's probably too early to ask but what do you guys think about the odds of seeing part III? Obviously pretty much all of the stuff that was left out of B1 was used in B2 so they would have to come up with a lot of new material, and Nintendo would most likely still have to finance it. I'd say very very slim. Unless Bayonetta II sold insanely and unexpectedly well in the US, the sales numbers are significantly below that of Bayonetta and Bayonetta only got a sequel because Nintendo was footing the bill in an attempt to draw in hardcore gamers to the Wii U.
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I don't know, but if they do I would love it if I could get a playable Lumen Sage that is available for a one player mode.
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B2 didn't chart. 99% chance that unless some rich guy loves Bayonetta and decides to finance it himself a la Curt Schilling, the series is over. But they put a nice bow on it and it's a great game, so there you go.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:B2 didn't chart. 99% chance that unless some rich guy loves Bayonetta and decides to finance it himself a la Curt Schilling, the series is over. But they put a nice bow on it and it's a great game, so there you go. Did it really sell that poorly? Do we have sales figures for it?
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I can't believe I didn't happen on this idea before, but Kafka + Infernal Communicator + Chain Chomp is an awfully fun way to utterly harass enemies from far away with arrows, chomp bombs and little devils. I'm pretty sure that it isn't quite pure platinum worthy and it's net negative as far as magic orbs gained form what little I've experimented thus far (so maybe throw in the Eternal Testimony) but I'm having the time of my life with it.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:Did it really sell that poorly? Do we have sales figures for it? No definites at the moment. VGChartz lists it as 0.34 million (global), but they never cite their sources, and are generally not reliable. The only other figures floating around are from some website saying the Japanese sales for the first three days of release (mid September); just under 39,000. However, another Japanese site is listing it as having sold 29,000 instead. More Bayo stuff would be cool, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I'm just glad that there's even a sequel. 
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We do know it didn't make the top 10 for October NPD, which is not a good sign. And before you say "well of course not, it only had a week and change to sell" it really doesn't matter too much, video game sales are front-loaded to the point that being released with 2 days left in the month didn't stop Mario Kart from being the #3 NPD game for July. There were some rumblings that Nintendo didn't print enough copies, and also NPD doesn't account for digital sales, but...well not charting at all is just not a positive development no matter how you spin it.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:We do know it didn't make the top 10 for October NPD, which is not a good sign. And before you say "well of course not, it only had a week and change to sell" it really doesn't matter too much, video game sales are front-loaded to the point that being released with 2 days left in the month didn't stop Mario Kart from being the #3 NPD game for July. If it's any consolation, it did chart in the UK upon release. It disappeared immediately after. A shame, but it's a niche game on a niche console.
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I got this game and it's everything I hoped for in a sequel. It's a pretty good game and it's a shame it's not more popular. Also the Princess Peach costume is hilarious, I couldn't stop laughing the first time I saw the giant Bowser fist come out and plaster an angel.  Ending spoilers: Now the beginning of the game makes sense.  I hope they make a Lumen Sage DLC or something, that'd be an interesting side story after the conclusion of these two games.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:There were some rumblings that Nintendo didn't print enough copies, and also NPD doesn't account for digital sales, but...well not charting at all is just not a positive development no matter how you spin it. I think this actually is the case that they didn't print enough copies. Even GameStops around me were only getting in like one or two at a time. I know a bunch of people that work in each one around here and they all said they had to turn away people constantly if they didn't want to order it off the website. Plus most of them didn't have any for Black Friday. 
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Neo Rasa posted:I think this actually is the case that they didn't print enough copies. Even GameStops around me were only getting in like one or two at a time. I know a bunch of people that work in each one around here and they all said they had to turn away people constantly if they didn't want to order it off the website. Plus most of them didn't have any for Black Friday. On the other hand, I can see copies at Best Buy and Target pretty easily in my area.
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