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Hogscraper
Nov 6, 2004

Audio master
Universal plug and play. It's a protocol that allows internet connected devices to control the router and forward traffic through custom ports.

Most modern routers implement this by default anymore but if you don't have it and you aren't the only computer in the network or can't put yourself in a DMZ then you have to open router ports manually for your Wii U to talk to the game servers.

Also, any guide that tells you to put your computer or system in the routers DMZ to make connections to the outside is a bad guide.

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greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
Oh I see. I guess I have never had a router where that's an issue. I'm only spending about $30 or $40 on these things, how cheap do you have to go to lose that feature? I assume most cable company provided routers are garbage.

Hogscraper
Nov 6, 2004

Audio master
I've read positive things about DD-WRT flashed TP Link routers but their bargain basement price scares me for some reason.

Echophonic
Sep 16, 2005

ha;lp
Gun Saliva

Reoxygenation posted:

Apparently they've been getting a bunch of error codes and wiiu gamepad issues since Smash came out, this blows.


E: The only solution is setting up a repair or formatting :negative: Time to see if I can back up save data then format I guess


e2: the update data won't even let me format my console gently caress off

Yeah, a friend of mine got a WiiU (A refurb, but I don't think it's relevant) and had a syncing issue like that. They've been having issues with the shipping label service, too, so he's been waiting for a while to get a label to ship the gamepad back.

Cialis Railman
Apr 20, 2007

Regarding routers: I'm a dummy. All this time I thought the Wii U had an ethernet port, and I just now found out it doesn't. I was asking about routers in the assumption that I could just hook it up like my PS4. What the hell, Nintendo? :psyduck:

Ultigonio
Oct 26, 2012

Well now.
You can pretty easily just use a USB ethernet adapter, but yes, it's extremely silly.

Kly
Aug 8, 2003

Echophonic posted:

They've been having issues with the shipping label service, too, so he's been waiting for a while to get a label to ship the gamepad back.

they offered me the option to just print a shipping label until they found out i was canadian.

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

Man I'm kinda wishing I bought Mario Kart when they had that promotion even if I didn't have a Wii U. I think I wasn't convinced to get one yet but I could've had MK+Wind Waker for free.

Knowing Nintendo even if you collected the code it would have expired anyway

Nep-Nep
May 15, 2004

Just one more thing!

THE AWESOME GHOST posted:

Man I'm kinda wishing I bought Mario Kart when they had that promotion even if I didn't have a Wii U. I think I wasn't convinced to get one yet but I could've had MK+Wind Waker for free.

Knowing Nintendo even if you collected the code it would have expired anyway

Actually, you are right that it would have.

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

Why would game installs be doing a bunch of writing to the storage? All they basically need to do is put the disc version on there and just read forever. All the Wii U would need to do is use the same care it uses when it writes to the soldered on flash.

Nothing much to argue about, as the reality is what it is, but the technical arguments are really weak.
I had the same thought myself but that's their excuse :iiam:. I'd guess there's more of a quality variance with flash drives and SD cards that they don't want to bother with, looks like some have wear leveling controllers and some don't for example. Supposedly SD cards work through a USB adapter if you want to use one.

Course I'd probably use a flash drive/card myself when the time comes :v:

Hogscraper posted:

Universal plug and play. It's a protocol that allows internet connected devices to control the router and forward traffic through custom ports.

Most modern routers implement this by default anymore but if you don't have it and you aren't the only computer in the network or can't put yourself in a DMZ then you have to open router ports manually for your Wii U to talk to the game servers.

Also, any guide that tells you to put your computer or system in the routers DMZ to make connections to the outside is a bad guide.
Mine doesn't do UPnP and I've never had to forward ports for games :ssh:. (Well not completely true, I think I did for some DS stuff way way back, but never did anything for my later systems).

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
Here's the first footage of the "new" Rodea the Sky Soldier for Wii U/3DS. You won't believe it used to be a Wii game!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyWf0PUU-28

Linear Zoetrope
Nov 28, 2011

A hero must cook

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

Here's the first footage of the "new" Rodea the Sky Soldier for Wii U/3DS. You won't believe it used to be a Wii game!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyWf0PUU-28

When is this being released for the Gamecube?

MykonosFan
Sep 9, 2012

Hows my homies training
going? Whaa? Hey! What
are you doing Ronald?

Man I'm still totally interested in giving that a shot, but they should've thrown the 3DS version out ASAP to get in on the system while people were desperate for something to play on the system. Then if they felt the need for a console version do what they're doing now and just throw it out on the U (I don't think the Wii would have been a good place for it to sell well 2011 / 2012 but)

Looper
Mar 1, 2012

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

Here's the first footage of the "new" Rodea the Sky Soldier for Wii U/3DS. You won't believe it used to be a Wii game!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyWf0PUU-28

This looks like what I wanted NiGHTS to be

Fire Safety Doug
Sep 3, 2006

99 % caffeine free is 99 % not my kinda thing
Is there any functional difference between the Basic and Deluxe besides the internal storage and the amount of accessories you get? In other words, is it better to go for Basic for the savings if I already have an external HDD (or a way to get one cheaply)?

oddium
Feb 21, 2006

end of the 4.5 tatami age

Nobody should ever get the basic because white is a terrible color for consoles and controllers

Fire Safety Doug
Sep 3, 2006

99 % caffeine free is 99 % not my kinda thing
I must respectfully disagree, always liked the original 360 and was sad when it RROD'd. However, the color I'm most concerned about here is green.

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

Depends on the savings, at the moment if you have a Deluxe console every $50 you spend on the eshop gives you $5 back but that expires at the end of this year.

I haven't used any of the accessories the deluxe comes with like the cradle and whatever.

Long John Power
Sep 11, 2001

Hogscraper posted:

Because USB ethernet adapters on the Wii and Wii U cap data transfer over the USB port to something insanely slow like 6 Mbps. Even if the USB ethernet adapter did say it were connected at 100 Mbit it would still be limited by the transfer speed of the USB 2 port which i think real world speeds are only 20 to 30 Mbps.

Wireless N on the other hand doesn't have some weird data speed cap put there by Nintendo and has real world speeds that are faster than even a wired 100 Mbps connection.

Trust me, from experience, an ethernet connected Wii U sucks.

I had an awful Belkin router that would only port forward wired connections. It worked fine for PS3 and seemingly fine for the Wii U at first until i kept getting lag kicked out of Mario Kart games. When I did a speed test from the Wii U i was getting around 4 Mbps on a 30 Mbps fiber connection with high pings. Remove the router from the equation... same thing. Replace the router, connect through wireless N and run the same speed test again... consistently between 20 and 30 Mbps with pings in the low 20s.

I know it seems counter intuitive but that's my experience with it. I spent $150 bucks to play Mario Kart 8 and I'm not upset about it.

Glad this sorted your problems out but just to note this is the opposite of the advice that Nintendo has been giving out.

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


And what is the advice Nintendo has been giving out?

Long John Power
Sep 11, 2001

Saoshyant posted:

And what is the advice Nintendo has been giving out?

Buy an ethernet adapter for Smash.

From one of the smash directs:

quote:

Online battles are no longer anonymous, and players are now identified by their Nintendo Network I.D. This means it will be much easier to report problem players. There will also be a matchmaking system in place, which can place players with similar skill levels together. There is also an online ranking system, but it’s based on achievements in the single-player mode, so that players can compete with each other in a positive way. Sakurai said that he wants the online experience to be as enjoyable as possible for everyone. He also recommended that Wii U players get the optional ethernet dongle for their system.

Long John Power fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Nov 25, 2014

Reoxygenation
Dec 8, 2010

if wishes were fishes fuck you this is my pie

Echophonic posted:

Yeah, a friend of mine got a WiiU (A refurb, but I don't think it's relevant) and had a syncing issue like that. They've been having issues with the shipping label service, too, so he's been waiting for a while to get a label to ship the gamepad back.

Yeah I'm shipping my console to them today, they wanted to charge me but I told them ahahha no this is your fault :v:

So I'm getting the repairs for free but I gotta wait a while, since I'm canadian (I'm shipping to Ontario though so it might be a reasonable delay...??)

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

oddium posted:

Nobody should ever get the basic because white is a terrible color for consoles and controllers

Normally I'd agree but I have the white WiiU and it and its controller still look brand new and my sister's black WiiU, especially the controller, look like scuffed up messes. She has no kids and uses the system fairly lightly. It's that black piano finish that makes it do that (my launch fat PS3 looks like crap too). My Elite (black) 360 still looks great because it's a matte finish.

There's no functional difference between a white and black WiiU once a hard drive is installed for the poster that asked.

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


I just wish the internal HDD was removable. I'd rather had a white U, too, honestly. Because, yes, that stupid glossy black plastic gets covered in scuffs and dirt like there's no tomorrow.

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

Saoshyant posted:

I just wish the internal HDD was removable. I'd rather had a white U, too, honestly.

Just out of curiosity, if you have an external hard drive, what is your concern with the internal memory? The 32 GB model holds, in some instances, barely an extra game. Unless you meant you wish you could replace the hard drive so there's no external at all (like the PS3) which I agree, would be awesome. I kinda like that the WiiU OS is installed on an SSD, though!

Saoshyant posted:

that stupid glossy black plastic gets covered in scuffs and dirt like there's no tomorrow.

Yeah I can't wait for that fad to die. My friend has a laptop that has glossy black keyboard. :stonk:

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

citizenlowell posted:

The option in the controls is tied to a custom control profile it seems. The profile appears to have to be selected every time I play, so if I forget to do that it still happens. I've noticed that even when I have selected the profile it shakes on other screens if rumble is supposed to be triggered even if it's not happening in fights. This really only applies when using the GamePad which seems to have the loudest and most clumsy rumble feature of any controller I've used. It buzzes more than it shakes. Is there a system level setting to disable it? I've always just deactivated it in a game's option menu if I was bothered by it. I'll be using the pro controller mostly so it's a non-issue, but in multiplayer sessions some one is going to have to use the pad.


I was all in on Rumble Paks in the 90s, only thing disrespectful here is the poor quality of the GamePad rumble.

Pro tip: if using the Gamecube adapter on the WiiU, only plug in one of the USB cables, not both. It will still work, just without rumble. And hey! Extra freed up USB port!

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

Pro tip: if using the Gamecube adapter on the WiiU, only plug in one of the USB cables, not both. It will still work, just without rumble. And hey! Extra freed up USB port!

This is unironically a fantastic post right here. I wasn't going to buy one because I've got an external taking up the back two and I use one of the front ports for my pro controller.

oddium
Feb 21, 2006

end of the 4.5 tatami age

The casual disregard for rumble in this thread... I need to sit down for a bit...

Wildtortilla
Jul 8, 2008
Nintendo just posted about Smash on Facebook, "Thanks to all of you, the highest user-rated Wii U game is now the fastest-selling title in platform history!"

Seems like they're having a good launch! :D

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

Well that's not saying much, but still good news. I know they said earlier that with Mario Kart 8 Wii U sales spiked, I wonder if they'll have a good holiday season with Smash as well now. I mean I just bought mine and a year ago I was convinced I would never get a wii u

Fire Safety Doug
Sep 3, 2006

99 % caffeine free is 99 % not my kinda thing
If you’re not sick of my blathering yet, I’ll try to do some maths and you can point out possible flaws in my reasoning!

We want the Wii U for multiplayer Mario Kart and Smash Bros, so at the minimum we will need the console, those two games, and at least one extra controller. I’m guessing the wheel is nice to have for MK?

Option 1: Premium, everything from Amazon UK (prices rounded up slightly, also I have Prime)

Wii U Premium Mario Kart bundle – 235 pounds
Smash Bros with GC controller adapter – 50 pounds
Pro Controller or Remote Plus (Nintendo Party bundle) 35
Mario Kart wheel 10 pounds

330 pounds altogether for console, two games, and one extra controller.

Option 2: Basic, ShopTo / Amazon UK combo

ShopTo bundle: Basic Wii U + Nintendo Land + Wii Party U + extra Remote Plus – 165 pounds
Smash Bros with GC controller adapter – 50 pounds
Mario Kart – 40 pounds
Mario Kart wheel – 10 pounds

That’s 265 pounds for console, four games (two of them admittedly not that necessary) and the extra controller. I could add in another two controllers and still be around the same price as with the Premium route. There’s the question of an external HDD but I could buy one as a tax-deductible business expense.

If the external HDD is just as good, then it looks to me like I’d be better off going with the Basic, but do let me know if there’s something I’m not seeing.

oddium
Feb 21, 2006

end of the 4.5 tatami age

Remember when people would discuss with extreme seriousness what Nintendo should do since the Wii U was a flop. I remember

Gwen
Aug 17, 2011

Never took them seriously, to be honest.

elf help book
Aug 5, 2004

Though the battle might be endless, I will never give up

oddium posted:

Remember when people would discuss with extreme seriousness what Nintendo should do since the Wii U was a flop. I remember

I'm glad all the game haters have been hunted and killed.

Shelf Adventure
Jul 18, 2006
I'm down with that brother

Fire Safety Doug posted:

If you’re not sick of my blathering yet, I’ll try to do some maths and you can point out possible flaws in my reasoning!

We want the Wii U for multiplayer Mario Kart and Smash Bros, so at the minimum we will need the console, those two games, and at least one extra controller. I’m guessing the wheel is nice to have for MK?

Option 1: Premium, everything from Amazon UK (prices rounded up slightly, also I have Prime)

Wii U Premium Mario Kart bundle – 235 pounds
Smash Bros with GC controller adapter – 50 pounds
Pro Controller or Remote Plus (Nintendo Party bundle) 35
Mario Kart wheel 10 pounds

330 pounds altogether for console, two games, and one extra controller.

Option 2: Basic, ShopTo / Amazon UK combo

ShopTo bundle: Basic Wii U + Nintendo Land + Wii Party U + extra Remote Plus – 165 pounds
Smash Bros with GC controller adapter – 50 pounds
Mario Kart – 40 pounds
Mario Kart wheel – 10 pounds

That’s 265 pounds for console, four games (two of them admittedly not that necessary) and the extra controller. I could add in another two controllers and still be around the same price as with the Premium route. There’s the question of an external HDD but I could buy one as a tax-deductible business expense.

If the external HDD is just as good, then it looks to me like I’d be better off going with the Basic, but do let me know if there’s something I’m not seeing.

I'd save money on a Mario kart wheel and just use a sideways wii remote really - or if you really want one have a look in cash converters, you can probably pick one up for a few quid. Wii nunchucks are only £3 there now too. Some are questionable quality, but there's usually a few there and you see if they're horrid before buying.

Narcissus1916
Apr 29, 2013

The Wii U's sudden success is a weird story, to say the least. I've had my Wii U for a few months and I'd roughly lay out these reasons as such..
1) While the Wii U has had time to build up its library, its also been surging because Nintendo's own game development hasn't been this good in a very long while. Mario Kart 8 is one of the best entries in the franchise, Tropical Freeze has so many hardcore fans' panties in a bunch, and Smash Wii U seems to fix what a lot of people (myself included) hated about Brawl. Nintendo isn't just releasing their exclusives, they're making them drat good too.

And although I expected Sony and Microsoft to have a rough first year games library (with the added tit punch of no backwards compatibility), I don't think anyone expected it to be this dire. There's a smattering of titles that play best on next generation consoles, but system sellers are nowhere to be found. Exclusives are just as absent; with Sony burning a ton of their advert money treating Destiny like a system exclusive.

2) Should Nintendo have switched to HD years ago? Yes. But that doesn't take away from the eye popping ridiculousness of seeing Nintendo classics without SD jaggies. Meanwhile, PS4 and Xbone both appear to be radically underpowered, and not just in comparison to $2000 PC rigs. There was a gigantic drop from my 360 to a Wii, even in the earliest of days. Not so here, at all.

3) I invited two friends over to my place for pizza and beer. We finally sat down to play some videogames... and realized that the list of non-Nintendo console games that support local multiplayer is micropenis small. The best we had were arcade titles and 2 player pass the controller aggravation.

Compare this to the Wii U's flush of multiplayer titles.

4) Its $200 for a refurbished Wii U that runs like new. A year ago I didn't know a single person who owned one. Now, I know about four people who had one before me, and three people who bought a console after trying out mine.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Saoshyant posted:

I just wish the internal HDD was removable.

I'm pretty sure it's just some NAND chips on the board, but it would be really nice to be able to upgrade the storage without adding external bulk and other devices to worry about if you move it around, etc.

Shitty Wizard
Jan 2, 2013

ASK ME WHY
I VOTED
FOR TRUMP
As a new Wii U owner, any idea if there's a decent cover for the Gamepad that's a solid color? I need to hide my basic shame/protect my screen from getting hosed up.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

I think people are overestimating the Wii U's turnaround a bit. It's doing better than it did but still performing lower than it should considering it threw out the absolutely devastating combo of Mario Kart and Smash. Only a new Zelda could give them a bigger boost. There's a fairly reasonable chance that it's going to start going downhill again fairly quickly, especially since they don't seem to have many big names on the way besides Zelda which is an unknown period of time away. I'm pretty hype for Splatoon but it's an unproven IP in a genre which frequently doesn't do well. (Mixing shooter gameplay and cutesy graphics) and Xenoblade 2 is a niche JRPG.

Basically, I won't be surprised if within six months the doom and gloom is back.

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Von Linus
Apr 6, 2006
I complete me.

Narcissus1916 posted:

The Wii U's sudden success is a weird story, to say the least. I've had my Wii U for a few months and I'd roughly lay out these reasons as such..
1) While the Wii U has had time to build up its library, its also been surging because Nintendo's own game development hasn't been this good in a very long while. Mario Kart 8 is one of the best entries in the franchise, Tropical Freeze has so many hardcore fans' panties in a bunch, and Smash Wii U seems to fix what a lot of people (myself included) hated about Brawl. Nintendo isn't just releasing their exclusives, they're making them drat good too.

And although I expected Sony and Microsoft to have a rough first year games library (with the added tit punch of no backwards compatibility), I don't think anyone expected it to be this dire. There's a smattering of titles that play best on next generation consoles, but system sellers are nowhere to be found. Exclusives are just as absent; with Sony burning a ton of their advert money treating Destiny like a system exclusive.

2) Should Nintendo have switched to HD years ago? Yes. But that doesn't take away from the eye popping ridiculousness of seeing Nintendo classics without SD jaggies. Meanwhile, PS4 and Xbone both appear to be radically underpowered, and not just in comparison to $2000 PC rigs. There was a gigantic drop from my 360 to a Wii, even in the earliest of days. Not so here, at all.

3) I invited two friends over to my place for pizza and beer. We finally sat down to play some videogames... and realized that the list of non-Nintendo console games that support local multiplayer is micropenis small. The best we had were arcade titles and 2 player pass the controller aggravation.

Compare this to the Wii U's flush of multiplayer titles.

4) Its $200 for a refurbished Wii U that runs like new. A year ago I didn't know a single person who owned one. Now, I know about four people who had one before me, and three people who bought a console after trying out mine.

I got the wii u last christmas, and it didn't get much use from me, as I had the PS4. I'm being drawn to it more and more now because of the completeness of the games. No farting around with massive patches or whatnot. And as a parent, I can't be decapitating all and sundry while shortarses are wandering around. I like that there are nice games that are suitable for the entire family, even just to play while someone is in the room.

Then I got Bayonetta and Zombi U because gently caress 'em.

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