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Party Boat posted:I tried to watch Stripes the other night (never seen it before and Netflix kept suggesting it). Turned off halfway through because the sparse laughs weren't enough to keep going through the dated attitudes to women. I'm not going to criticise an early 80s film just for having gratuitous titties but the writing didn't seem anything special either. Have I unfairly dismissed a classic? It's a super-quotable fun movie where ramis and Murray get to take the piss out of everything army. Sgt hulka is a great character. It goes from silly to ridiculous plotwise. Not liking it isn't some sin, but it's really not supposed to be high level cinema in the first place.
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And Stripes is really only memorable through the first half. Once basic training is over, I kinda forget what happens (there's a weird camper and some Russians, I think).
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Skizzzer posted:I just watched 30 for 30's Bad Boys and it was pretty good. What are some other good sport documentaries? I've seen already The U (awesome), Two Escobars (pretty good), Trial of Allen Iverson (disappointing), Senna, and the one about the Knicks. The Best That Never Was is my favorite in the "30 for 30" series. Also, I think Pumping Iron is on there now, and it's great. Thwomp posted:And Stripes is really only memorable through the first half. Once basic training is over, I kinda forget what happens (there's a weird camper and some Russians, I think). When I was little, my Dad had a VHS copy he recorded that ended after the graduation ceremony. I always thought that was the end of the film, and it seemed like a pretty cool ending to me.
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The last half of Stripes is pretty dire but it has a few good gags.
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Party Boat posted:I tried to watch Stripes the other night (never seen it before and Netflix kept suggesting it). Turned off halfway through because the sparse laughs weren't enough to keep going through the dated attitudes to women. I'm not going to criticise an early 80s film just for having gratuitous titties but the writing didn't seem anything special either. Have I unfairly dismissed a classic? It's a good movie, but a lot's changed in 33 years. I'm reminded of a few weeks back when the wife and I were in the mood for something funny so we put on Eddie Murphy's stand-up Delirious and holy poo poo times have changed.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Nobody is arguing that Stretch could do completely without the romantic sub-plot, but it wasn't bad enough to ruin the rest of it in my opinion. Jessica Alba what were you thinking? Chichevache posted:
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Party Boat posted:I tried to watch Stripes the other night (never seen it before and Netflix kept suggesting it). Turned off halfway through because the sparse laughs weren't enough to keep going through the dated attitudes to women. I'm not going to criticise an early 80s film just for having gratuitous titties but the writing didn't seem anything special either. Have I unfairly dismissed a classic? I hope you have good memories of Airplane! then. Because it will not hold up to politically correct scrutiny
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A MIRACLE posted:I hope you have good memories of Airplane! then. Because it will not hold up to politically correct scrutiny It's also just not a funny movie. 
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General Battuta posted:Sounds like The Act of Killing oh whoops I've got that backwards Hahaha, definitely not that one!
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dik-dik posted:It's also just not a funny movie. Burn the heretic! Airplane! is the archetype of the modern comedy and I don't think we've gotten far enough away from it that it loses all its charm like "Some Like It Hot".
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I think he's referring to Stripes.
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The gently caress are you talking about.
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Nroo posted:The gently caress are you talking about. Seriously, I saw Some Like It Hot cold on TCM one night and it's still one of the funniest movies I've ever seen. If that movie has 'lost its charm,' I can't imagine what people must think of old Coen Bros. comedies, as it's pretty much the prototype for everything they did.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I think he's referring to Stripes. No I was referring to Airplane! I haven't seen Stripes.
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dik-dik posted:No I was referring to Airplane! I haven't seen Stripes. thre's a zero percent chance that Airplane! isn't funnier than your favorite comedy
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:thre's a zero percent chance that Airplane! isn't funnier than your favorite comedy Honestly I don't have a favorite comedy. I don't actually think most comedies are any good. Humor is great in non-comedy films, and I love TV comedies, stand-up, etc., but I just don't think the comedy genre of film is necessary or entertaining.
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dik-dik posted:Honestly I don't have a favorite comedy. I don't actually think most comedies are any good. Humor is great in non-comedy films, and I love TV comedies, stand-up, etc., but I just don't think the comedy genre of film is necessary or entertaining. Yikes.
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dik-dik posted:Honestly I don't have a favorite comedy. I don't actually think most comedies are any good. Humor is great in non-comedy films, and I love TV comedies, stand-up, etc., but I just don't think the comedy genre of film is necessary or entertaining. well uhhhh there you go, i guess.
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The thing with comedy movies is they're very timely... and what's funny changes, gets edgier, more ironic etc over time
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A MIRACLE posted:The thing with comedy movies is they're very timely... and what's funny changes, gets edgier, more ironic etc over time Someone hasn't seen Dr. Strangelove (or R&G are dead).
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Yeah I mean it can be fun to sit down and watch a comedy with friends. Don't get me wrong, I'm not some humorless prick who lacks the ability to laugh (well, not entirely). I just don't think they're particularly memorable and even the best comedy movies are usually poo poo compared to decent comedy television (Bob's Burgers, Parks & Rec, Archer, Arrested Development, Always Sunny, early Community, to name a few shows currently on Netflix). E: Okay yeah Dr. Strangelove rocked. Peter Sellers is one of the few actors capable of making good, memorable comedic films. Also Airplane! just seems like a classic example of pandering to the lowest common denominator, which can be fun for action flicks but is insufferable for comedies, imo.
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A MIRACLE posted:I hope you have good memories of Airplane! then. Because it will not hold up to politically correct scrutiny I actually watched Airplane! earlier this year and enjoyed it a lot because it had genuinely good jokes alongside the stuff that's pretty questionable in hindsight. Stripes had some decent moments but not enough to outweigh the more dated / rapey stuff. Blues Brothers is still the best comedy / musical / film. Come at me.
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What was the rapey stuff in Airplane!? Man, that title makes me look really excitable.
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Airplane still feels like a big excuse to just throw gags at the wall for the running time of the movie to see what sticks. Not a bad thing, but I mean it's not genius or anything. A lot of the Scary Movie- series and _____ Movies feel like really lovely Airplanes!.
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Erebus posted:What was the rapey stuff in Airplane!? think he meant stripes.
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Erebus posted:What was the rapey stuff in Airplane!? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2A194yTWoQ
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Monkey Fracas posted:Airplane still feels like a big excuse to just throw gags at the wall for the running time of the movie to see what sticks. Not a bad thing, but I mean it's not genius or anything. A couple of them are written and directed by Zucker Bros., who made Airplane!.
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Pander posted:think he meant stripes. You're right, I missed the switch to talking about Stripes. I don't really remember rapey stuff there either, but I saw it a long time ago and that movie's a lot more "just guys havin' fun!", so it wouldn't surprise me.
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I don't find the child molestation jokes in Airplane! as uncomfortable as the Black jokes, though. And even those are still pretty funny.A MIRACLE posted:The thing with comedy movies is they're very timely... and what's funny changes, gets edgier, more ironic etc over time Some Like It Hot is still so relevant. More so, even...
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The comedy genre has a lot of potential for biting satire. Blazing Saddles is one of the best examples.
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Is there some reason we're now playing along with the idea that there are no good comedy films, or something?
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K. Waste posted:Some Like It Hot is still so relevant. More so, even... Maybe I need to see it again as I haven't seen it in so long. But I distinctly remember thinking other comedies were better (Airplane!, Blue Brothers, Ghostbusters). Pander posted:The comedy genre has a lot of potential for biting satire. Blazing Saddles is one of the best examples. For whatever reason, I always had the impression the big chili fart-off was the biggest laugh of that movie. But there are so many better jokes in that movie. Maybe my relatives are just big on fart jokes.
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The humor in Airplane! works on so many different levels. Example: As a kid, the blow up doll was funny because an inflatable person was flying an airplane. That poo poo's funny. As I grew older it took on an entirely different meaning.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Is there some reason we're now playing along with the idea that there are no good comedy films, or something? dik-dik posted:Honestly I don't have a favorite comedy. I don't actually think most comedies are any good. Humor is great in non-comedy films, and I love TV comedies, stand-up, etc., but I just don't think the comedy genre of film is necessary or entertaining.
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If you watched trading places, or Brewster's millions, or the previously mentioned blazing saddles, and didn't laugh at all, you're probably a dead person. Comedy as a genre is the same as every other genre. mostly poo poo, but occasionally fantastic.
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:The humor in Airplane! works on so many different levels. layers within layers
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stickyfngrdboy posted:every genre is mostly poo poo This is always the truth.
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Manky posted:This is always the truth. Sturgeon's Law
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