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Khisanth Magus posted:
well it does help establish that Sakai can build some mean model kits and showing how good the mobile suit is important to establish Sakai as a rival.
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everythingWasBees posted:It didn't really hit me that there's characters named both Sekai and Sakai. This makes the thread make a whole lot more sense, and also means I've been calling Sekai by the wrong name for half the season. It took me forever to stop getting them mixed up. I am surprised the show hasn't made a joke about it yet.
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Nov 26, 2014 18:08
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Gyanko is a much more interesting character with more relevance to the show than the team that is going to lose next episode, so yes, it would have been nice to see her have any success at all, Dickeye.
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Nov 26, 2014 18:08
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Sharkopath posted:Gyanko is a much more interesting character with more relevance to the show than the team that is going to lose next episode, so yes, it would have been nice to see her have any success at all, Dickeye. I agree. If you don't understand why she didn't blow away the team leader though you're an idiot.' It'd be great if you morons could respond to things I actually say instead of just flailing and shrieking about how dumb and bad the show is.
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Nov 26, 2014 18:11
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Literally The Worst posted:I agree. If you don't understand why she didn't blow away the team leader though you're an idiot.' lol
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Nov 26, 2014 18:13
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Literally The Worst posted:I agree. If you don't understand why she didn't blow away the team leader though you're an idiot.' Ahahahaa
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Srice posted:Ahahahaa Good responses from good posters.
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Nov 26, 2014 18:14
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I did like the whole "+2 others" thing a lot.
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Person who absolutely hates the no good Robot Fight Show and wants nothing more than to see it destroyed: It would be really cool if instead of being absolutely wrecked, Gyanko had caught the dudes sword with her shield, yelled about not underestimating her, and messed him up real good even if she still lost in the end, I would have liked that a lot.
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Nov 26, 2014 18:17
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Sharkopath posted:Person who absolutely hates the no good Robot Fight Show and wants nothing more than to see it destroyed: It would be really cool if instead of being absolutely wrecked, Gyanko had caught the dudes sword with her shield, yelled about not underestimating her, and messed him up real good even if she still lost in the end, I would have liked that a lot. I agree with this it's almost like you're responding to a thing you're imagining me saying and not what I'm actually saying.
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Nov 26, 2014 18:18
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Literally The Worst posted:I agree with this it's almost like you're responding to a thing you're imagining me saying and not what I'm actually saying. *In attractive cool guy Dickeye voice* It'd be great if you morons could respond to things I actually say instead of just flailing and shrieking about how dumb and bad the show is.
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Nov 26, 2014 18:19
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Sharkopath posted:*In attractive cool guy Dickeye voice* Yeah you should point to where I said I didn't think Gyanko should do anything at all instead of "it's dumb to think she should have beaten the guy" because I said one of those things and not the other one.
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Nov 26, 2014 18:21
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Literally The Worst posted:Yeah you should point to where I said I didn't think Gyanko should do anything at all instead of "it's dumb to think she should have beaten the guy" because I said one of those things and not the other one. I don't think you can actually read, or you would have noticed I'm not making fun of that part of the post.
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Nov 26, 2014 18:22
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Sharkopath posted:A bigger problem is that the show so far isn't really good at handling tension, you know the protagonists are almost always going to win, and the enemies almost always lose, but there are simple things you can do to make sure that it's still very interesting and create doubt in the viewers mind. Yeah, I really wished she had went berserk trying to make it to the finals instead of going out with a whimper like she did. She should've at least blown up that smarmy gundam v pilot.
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Sharkopath posted:I don't think you can actually read, or you would have noticed I'm not making fun of that part of the post. Sharkopath posted:Gyanko is a much more interesting character with more relevance to the show than the team that is going to lose next episode, so yes, it would have been nice to see her have any success at all, Dickeye. So again: You're busy arguing with me about a thing I never said. Craaaaaaazy
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Stop posting about posting, that got the Greco thread closed. I hope Sekai still goes on that date with Gyanko.
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Level Slide posted:Stop posting about posting, that got the Greco thread closed. This thread being closed would be good, and cool. This thread is awful. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Literally The Worst posted:So again: You're busy arguing with me about a thing I never said. Craaaaaaazy Might be a good idea to clarify what you said then, to dispel any confusion on the matter!
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Nov 26, 2014 18:26
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At the very least Gyanko should've taken out that girl she had started establishing a rivalry with earlier in the episode. Like, I get that they needed to hype up the Mega-Shiki and Suga, but having her take out one suit wouldn't have been too much, would it?
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Condiv posted:Yeah, I really wished she had went berserk trying to make it to the finals instead of going out with a whimper like she did. She should've at least blown up that smarmy gundam v pilot. To be fair, Gyanko's tragic newtype girl death was kind of funny. Would've been nice if she'd been able to do more, though.
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Srice posted:Might be a good idea to clarify what you said then, to dispel any confusion on the matter! Literally The Worst posted:Yeah you should point to where I said I didn't think Gyanko should do anything at all instead of "it's dumb to think she should have beaten the guy" because I said one of those things and not the other one. Jeeze this reading poo poo is loving hard it's way easier to just flail wildly at windmills.
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Level Slide posted:Stop posting about posting, that got the Greco thread closed. Him and Hoshino are gonna eat steamed buns during the national tournament and build robots there will be gratuitous cameos it will be great. 
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everythingWasBees posted:At the very least Gyanko should've taken out that girl she had started establishing a rivalry with earlier in the episode. Like, I get that they needed to hype up the Mega-Shiki and Suga, but having her take out one suit wouldn't have been too much, would it? Realistically speaking? No, she shouldn't have been able to take out Yomi given the circumstances. Maybe they could have structured the fight differently to give her a chance, but the moment it became a 3v1 gyanko has no right of taking anyone out short of a suicide attack.
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everythingWasBees posted:At the very least Gyanko should've taken out that girl she had started establishing a rivalry with earlier in the episode. Like, I get that they needed to hype up the Mega-Shiki and Suga, but having her take out one suit wouldn't have been too much, would it? Yeah, while I do think it would have been more fitting for her to take out the guy that fought her brother (since not-Sleggar is the big threat that's being hyped up so obviously he's being saved for Team Try to take out), that would also have been acceptable! I'm not too picky about it, I just wanted Gyanko to get some chance to shine 
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Realistically speaking? No, she shouldn't have been able to take out Yomi given the circumstances. Maybe they could have structured the fight differently to give her a chance, but the moment it became a 3v1 gyanko has no right of taking anyone out short of a suicide attack. The fight would be structured differently if that happened? I thought that was implied. Even if not, there've been plenty of battles where the protagonist is able to defeat a large number of enemies against overwhelming odds. Putting up a fight and taking out a suit wouldn't be anything out of the ordinary for a show where they make the little plastic robots fight eachother.
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I mean its pretty easy to figure out that once you lose a member you are incredibly hosed in gunpla team battles since the losing team is forced to go into the offensive to try and equalize the numbers while the winning team can just turtle and win by time out. In other team based games you have mechanisms to stall out till the situation improves. Or you have matches where you might do badly in one round but better in the other. You are properly hosed in gunpla battles if you ever get to the point that you have a handicap unless you are loving insane and can carry the group by yourself.
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Literally The Worst posted:Jeeze this reading poo poo is loving hard it's way easier to just flail wildly at windmills. Uuuuh.
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Cao Ni Ma posted:I mean its pretty easy to figure out that once you lose a member you are incredibly hosed in gunpla team battles since the losing team is forced to go into the offensive to try and equalize the numbers while the winning team can just turtle and win by time out. I'd say thats more a mechanic of the path the writers have chosen to take, in somebody elses hands the Team Battle format might have really shone and hell, maybe it still will further down the line. I expect they'll have at least one episode where team Try Fighters goes down to one and they have to make a comeback victory against overwhelming odds, I'd be surprised if it didn't happen.
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Gyanko charging one of them to get a kill and then the other 2 destroying her could still be a thing that happens in that situation. You don't really have to worry about realism when you're writing a story, especially in a fictional sport. Besides I wouldn't put it against this show to have Sekai being outnumbered at some point (plus the first season had a few moments that showed how individual skill trumps numbers easily).
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A cool Fuumina centric episode could have her losing her teammates and carrying on the fight alone in the Winning Gundam, showing off all its crazy gimmicks that don't relate to it being a powerup. That would be neato!
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Cao Ni Ma posted:I mean its pretty easy to figure out that once you lose a member you are incredibly hosed in gunpla team battles since the losing team is forced to go into the offensive to try and equalize the numbers while the winning team can just turtle and win by time out. The whole point of Gyanko's team is that she is that insane, and can carry the entire team by herself, though? While realistically that's how a team based battle should work, it hasn't been how they've been working at all during the season. There's been very little teamwork, just 3 1v1 battles. Whether or not that's how it would work in the real world isn't necessarily how it should work in the show. The battles don't need to be realistic (they'd be really rather boring if they were, the way the show has set them up so far,) they need to be interesting, and work with the characters.
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Level Slide posted:Stop posting about posting, that got the Greco thread closed. I would also like to clarify that it was actually this thread that got closed, not the greco one, when people started getting really mad and defensive over other people not showing the proper levels of enthusiasm.
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This episode had some enjoyable moments, but overall I wasn't really pleased with how it played out at the end. The big problem with Try's cast so far is that Team Try Fighters aren't being allowed to bounce off the other members of the cast. The first season established all these supporting characters for Sei and Reiji to bounce off of and have good interaction with before finally getting down to the actual fights in the latter half of the season. Try's cast isn't being allowed to do that. Instead, all the supporting characters are basically being introduced as SUPER SERIOUS THREATS or potential rivals/love interests, and not being given any time to actually interact with the protagonists beyond that, assuming they even bother interacting with them at all (looking at you Team SRSC). And the fight was really disappointing. I'm not mad that Team Song Dynasty Vase got Worfed to establish Team G-Master as SUPER SERIOUS THREATS, because I went in expecting that outcome. I'm mad that they basically just had Gyanko roll over and go out with a whimper instead of actually putting up a real fight. Instead, the Third Frost Brother instantly OHKO's Keiko, V-Tsundere needles Gyanko and annoys her while doing nothing significant, and then
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everythingWasBees posted:The whole point of Gyanko's team is that she is that insane, and can carry the entire team by herself, though? And I agree that the fights dont need to realistic, and the writers could take their time to actually do fights where scenarios could play differently. Right now it still feels like they are rushing everything instead of actually taking their time.
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W.T. Fits posted:The big problem with Try's cast so far is that Team Try Fighters aren't being allowed to bounce off the other members of the cast. The first season established all these supporting characters for Sei and Reiji to bounce off of and have good interaction with before finally getting down to the actual fights in the latter half of the season. I agree with this. So far the only one who really plays off other characters is Sekai and he's the most boring member of the team to do so. He just sort of stands around and stares and then goes "BUT FIGHTING" once everyone else is done. (It was really apparent this episode where Gyanko and the G-MASTER girl were having actual interaction before Sekai ended the scene with his generic fighting comments.) Yuuma has barely talked to anyone who isn't Fumina and Sekai and even with them he's like a third wheel. Fumina and him were supposed to be super-close friends who made an important promise to each other so why have they barely had 10 lines to each other since he joined the team? He isn't even having a silly crush on Sekai's sister anymore, he isn't really doing anything. Fumina gets lines but it feels like every time it is time to talk to a rival she ends up standing on the sidelines and letting someone else do it, and then she talks to Sekai about how he feels about it. Even when she tried to do it she's blocked. (Like her trying to talk to the kid brother last episode and just getting Sekaiblocked.) They don't interact with other team members and they barely interact with each other. That is really the core problem of the Try team. The only real interact they get is Fumina and Sekai talking and those conversations are boring as hell, aside from Episode 1 where the two of them were pretty funny together.
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Its not? Thats Shimon's team. Gyanko has always been portrayed as on the same tier as the other competent player in the individual spectrum, maybe slightly better than some. Mahiru and Keiko are okish by themselves but not active deadweights. She nearly took out fumina in a 3v1 battle. If sekai hadn't deus ex tornadoed her shield missle volley fumina's gm cardigan would've been wrecked (again).
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Literally The Worst you are actually the worst poster in this thread that includes me and ImpAtom. Please just shut up.
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I can't believe there's going to be a love square between the gunpla guy, fumina, sekai and gyanko.
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Condiv posted:She nearly took out fumina in a 3v1 battle. If sekai hadn't deus ex tornadoed her shield missle volley fumina's gm cardigan would've been wrecked (again). Fumina was already messed up, against a wall and it didnt happen because the team stepped in to stop it. If you noticed, she tried to missile Yomi too, but Sleggar intercepted the missiles with his own. Which sort of proves that once you are handicapped you are sort of hosed. I would love to see a fight where people get taken out but the enemy suffers so much damage in the process that they dont tip the scales too badly. The thing I miss most is how visceral the fights could get in BF Ka0 posted:I can't believe there's going to be a love square between the gunpla guy, fumina, sekai and gyanko. Sakai hasn't really seen Sekai's sister yet. So It could be triple triangles all the way round! e-I still dont know how lady is going to fit into all of this. Cao Ni Ma fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Nov 26, 2014 |
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