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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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The Crooked Warden posted:

Yep. That's been driving me absolutely loving batty.

Although I am mildly amused by my Inquisitor stopping in the middle of a conversation with someone and just staring at them like a spaz.

Second time it happened to me was when I was getting my Paramour trophy. I guess my inquisitor was just that focused on Cassandra's tits.

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Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
I just realized rogues can pick locks :v:

Al Cu Ad Solte
Nov 30, 2005
Searching for
a righteous cause
So, like, nugs are the cutest things now. Before they were just dumb hairless rabbits or whatever, but now they make this chirping sound and and :kimchi:

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Ilustforponydeath posted:

Vivienne loving sucks. It's like they siphoned out Morrigans few redeeming features, and made some uber-bitch. Especially in the banter she comes across as insufferable.

Unlike Morrigan though she doesn't have a hatred of helping people even if it's for your own gain, meaning that you can safely bring her along if you actually want to do some sidequests in an RPG.

Dallan Invictus
Oct 11, 2007

The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes, look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.
Vivienne is basically a mix of Wynne's politics and Morrigan's haughty and sharp-tongued demeanour, so whether you like her is going to depend a lot on if (and specifically why) you disliked Morrigan in DAO.

Meanwhile Morrigan herself seems to have actually been mellowed by motherhood, in my brief dealings with her this playthrough.

Flytrap
Apr 30, 2013
Oh jeez. I hate to ask, but can I get some general directions on where to get my Lyrium Philters? I have 1 of 3 (no idea where I got it, but I assume that swamp since I checked it pretty thoroughly), but the only directions I can find is somewhere vague on these big rear end maps.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Flytrap posted:

Oh jeez. I hate to ask, but can I get some general directions on where to get my Lyrium Philters? I have 1 of 3 (no idea where I got it, but I assume that swamp since I checked it pretty thoroughly), but the only directions I can find is somewhere vague on these big rear end maps.

Beat up templars and they'll drop. It's probably a specific sort of templar- the commanders?

Flytrap
Apr 30, 2013

Autonomous Monster posted:

Beat up templars and they'll drop. It's probably a specific sort of templar- the commanders?

Yeah, I was hoping I'd find them while doing Cass' quest, but according to the wiki you find them is three specific locations:

Witchwood
West Road
and Lady Shayna's Valley in the Hinterlands.

Pretty big maps to scour for something without a quest marker.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'
I really dig how Sera isn't a pretty elf and how Cassandra got dramatically less conventionally 'pretty' in the time between DA2 and DA:I. I also think it's neat how Vivienne is bald.

That whole thing about 'different standards of beauty' is actually feeling accurate now.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Harrow posted:

Yeah, that made a lot of sense. She seemed pretty even-handed about it, too, like: yeah, she can see why some mages might want independence, but was that really the time? If you make your move then, it comes off as opportunist at best, and as condoning (or even being involved in) a terrorist act at worst. Mages' situation got notably worse after the rebellion started and their timing and manner of rebellion earned them very, very few allies and a whole host of enemies. It was just dumb as hell.

I'm not as cynical about mages needing to be restrained as some Dragon Age players. I think they definitely need a community, structure, and education, absolutely, because most of the stupid or evil mages we see are the ones who are either going it alone or are part of a small fringe group. It does seem possible, at least, that a large, unified community of mages, governed by experienced, wise mages (that "wise" part probably excludes Fiona) would be just as good at keeping abominations and blood mages at bay as the Templars have been, but without mages feeling dehumanized.

But holy poo poo, mages make it so, so hard to like them, sometimes. In DA:O and DA2, just about every lone mage you meet is just stupid as gently caress, and in DA:I, the entire mage quest feels like you're herding a bunch of scared children. And Vivienne is dead on with her assessment of the rebellion: maybe it makes sense to some people, but this was one of the worst ways to possibly go about it.

Which is why they basically needed a Not-Anders and a Not-Meredith pulling equally terrible stunts at the first attempts at negotiation without the excuse of mind manipulation to push them into finally (narrowly) voting themselves into rebellion. Every time rationality is about to win, convenient extremists take over. The mages seriously need better leadership.

UberJumper
May 20, 2007
woop
I am really confused, i just got to Skyhold and:

After watching the cut scenes of me being declared inquisitor, i am dumped outside, and I have absolutely no direction for what i am supposed to do.

Aside from Vivenne, Sera, and Iron Bull i cannot find anyone else. Talking to them i get no options aside from "We'll talk later" or "thats it for now".

My map is blank, and i can't find the war room anywhere. I have reloaded a bunch of times, and even did the escape haven section again, but i keep end up being here, i feel i am missing something.

Draxion
Jun 9, 2013




UberJumper posted:

I am really confused, i just got to Skyhold and:

After watching the cut scenes of me being declared inquisitor, i am dumped outside, and I have absolutely no direction for what i am supposed to do.

Aside from Vivenne, Sera, and Iron Bull i cannot find anyone else. Talking to them i get no options aside from "We'll talk later" or "thats it for now".

My map is blank, and i can't find the war room anywhere. I have reloaded a bunch of times, and even did the escape haven section again, but i keep end up being here, i feel i am missing something.


The war room is past one of the doors to your left in the main hall. I think it's the second one as you walk towards the throne.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

UberJumper posted:

I am really confused, i just got to Skyhold and:

After watching the cut scenes of me being declared inquisitor, i am dumped outside, and I have absolutely no direction for what i am supposed to do.

Aside from Vivenne, Sera, and Iron Bull i cannot find anyone else. Talking to them i get no options aside from "We'll talk later" or "thats it for now".

My map is blank, and i can't find the war room anywhere. I have reloaded a bunch of times, and even did the escape haven section again, but i keep end up being here, i feel i am missing something.


Have you done the 60 FPS cutscene fix?

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

UberJumper posted:

I am really confused, i just got to Skyhold and:

After watching the cut scenes of me being declared inquisitor, i am dumped outside, and I have absolutely no direction for what i am supposed to do.

Aside from Vivenne, Sera, and Iron Bull i cannot find anyone else. Talking to them i get no options aside from "We'll talk later" or "thats it for now".

My map is blank, and i can't find the war room anywhere. I have reloaded a bunch of times, and even did the escape haven section again, but i keep end up being here, i feel i am missing something.

Most of your group is just standing around in the courtyard. Just wander around a bit, and once you talk to them they'll head off to their future resting spots. I don't think where the war room is counts as a spoiler, it's on the left side as you enter, the middle door.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Skyhold is a pain in the rear end to navigate once you first get dropped in. Good luck finding the specialization trainers once they show up unless you cheat and use the quest marker

Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.
College Slice

lilspooky posted:

Downloading the game at the moment. I'm kinda stuck on what type of character I want to play. In games like this I always enjoy a warrior or an archer. Not a tank type warrior though, more like a "chopping people the gently caress up" type. At the same time, how much fun are the archery classes?

Also it is correct that there are only 3 subclasses for each main class? I think Origins had more than that right?

I feel this is the best iteration of archer I've ever seen done in an action RPG. You get alot of bonuses for having the higher ground and flanking so its very much not a static class.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Autonomous Monster posted:

Beat up templars and they'll drop. It's probably a specific sort of templar- the commanders?

I got the Templar spec stuff to drop from Red Templars, I'm pretty sure. I certainly don't remember fighting any specific Templars.

The Champions you need to duel for that spec show up in the strangest placest--like one of them is on the other side of a cave in in the Fens of the Exalted Plains.

Polaron
Oct 13, 2010

The Oncoming Storm

Fojar38 posted:

Second time it happened to me was when I was getting my Paramour trophy. I guess my inquisitor was just that focused on Cassandra's tits.

If you leave the game sitting when this happens, it will absolutely eventually catch up. It seems to be loading or something when this happens. It will take a few minutes, but the cutscene will start playing again, no need to skip dialogue.

EDIT: It's possible this needs to go into the OP, because it's very important to know. The cutscene is not irreparably broken, just falling behind. I've left it sitting on every occasion this bug has happened (Cassandra's romance scene, a conversation with Stroud, few other times) and it will eventually start working.

Polaron fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Nov 26, 2014

Al Cu Ad Solte
Nov 30, 2005
Searching for
a righteous cause
Just respecd my rogue and forgot to pick stealth :gonk:

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
Just recruited Sera. How nice of Bioware to add a retarded character. That's progressive of them.

Polaron
Oct 13, 2010

The Oncoming Storm

Ginette Reno posted:

Just recruited Sera. How nice of Bioware to add a retarded character. That's progressive of them.

She gets better throughout the game.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Lum_ posted:

I hit on some of this before, but to spergcorrect:

Tevinter is REALLY obviously the Byzantine Empire - it's decadent and evil, and the Byzantines were also pretty renowned for being decadent and, if not evil, fairly close to it.

Antiva is Florentine Italy, not Spain - DA has another country that's Spain (Rivain, the home of Isabela the pirate lady from DA2). Antivans have Spanish accents because :bioware:. Zevran's tales of Antiva are straight out of Renaissance Italy.

Elves as Jews, Blight as Islam... uh, :psyduck: Dalish elves are pretty much straight out of Tolkien, and city elves being oppressed is a somewhat original inversion of the usual tropes, but... well, I'm not sure what's more racist, asserting Jews were ever a dominant society or that Muslims are brainless hordes of undead. (Plus as noted repeatedly, the Qunari are pretty much straight-up Caliphate-era Arab Muslims).

I don't really get why people keep making these lists and such where they say that every DA nation and such equals something in real life, in many cases this is true to some extent because DA is not really super original in terms of its world. But you should perhaps look outside of just history. For instance it is obvious that it is very influenced by Game of Thrones (which has been around since the 90s or something), the spelling of "sir" as "ser" and various other things should give that away easily. The Blight isn't the DA world's allegory of Islam, its pretty just the Others/White Walkers from GOT, except they live underground and look like Orcs, and the Grey Wardens really are a more badass and effective Nights Watch.

The Dwarves aren't a metaphor for a real life historical empire, their primary influence is fantasy dwarves, with a lot of their common traits (obsession with genealogy, history, grudges and honor) turned up to 11 and deconstructed, the rigid caste system and obsession with honor and appearances in public also seems to have some elements of Japanese culture and history (and possibly Indian) but only some. Their lost empire and status as a declining race, compared to humanity is a common element of much of fantasy going back to Tolkien with the "elder races" declining as the future will belong to humanity.

Also, I don't see at all how the Qunari "are pretty much straight-up Caliphate-era Arab Muslims", like how is that evident at all? The only things I see equating the Qunari to Muslms is that they are attacking the Teviner Imperium (which does seem based on Rome/Byzantium, but to me it also seems to be very influenced by GOT again, the Valyrians to be exact, complete with dragon gods), they have cannon (commonly associated with the Ottomans, even though their Eastern European enemies, though not the Byzantines it seems, used it against them earlier influencin the Ottomans to make use of the weapon as well), and I guess they have a foreign religion which could be seen to be like Islam in that its foreign (but I don't see at all how the Qun is like Islam, it even lacks the common origin that Christianity shares with Islam which is especially important for forging the relationship between the two). Lastly there is Gaider's stupid quote about how the Qunari are "militant Islamic Borg", which really makes me believe that they are more like the Borg from Star Trek than they are at all like "Caliphate-era Arab Muslims". If the Qunari are at all like any real world historical empire or nation I am most reminded by 19th century European empires and their interactions with the rest of the world, mostly Asia, you have the naval superiority and also generally superior military technology, you have missionaries in most of the countries and enclaves in some cities that seem to be able to partially impose their demands on the local governments, and you also have alot of them serving as mercenaries, and often leading mercenary companies, throughout Thedas, and that comparison too is pretty thin I feel (but more solid than them being 100% like historical Musim empires). Really the Qunari are probably among the more original things in the DA universe, I guess.

KoB
May 1, 2009

Polaron posted:

She gets better throughout the game.

Yeah, as soon as you tell her to gently caress off its way better.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Is there a way to upgrade keeps you capture? I swear they said you could, but I've captured Suledin Keep and not seen any way to upgrade it. Perhaps I need to capture the right ones?

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde
After restarting about 5 times I finally got a decent-looking Inquisitor. Really like the way she turned out:

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
Hey does the game enter endstage if I do the story mission "Wicked Heart Wicked Eyes"? I still haven't explored Emprise du lion and Hissing Wastes.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

SubponticatePoster posted:

After restarting about 5 times I finally got a decent-looking Inquisitor. Really like the way she turned out:


Certainly looks a lot better than when I gave that hairstyle to my Hawke.

marshmallow creep fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Nov 26, 2014

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Why did they feel the need to change the Darkspawn. They looked fine in Origins

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

Polaron posted:

She gets better throughout the game.

I wouldn't say I hate her or anything, but she's definitely retarded. My big dumb Qunari mage accepts any and all help, however.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

I would take literally any of the DA:2 companions over Sera

Evil Canadian
Sep 10, 2000

No one man should have all that Psycho-Power.

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

I would take literally any of the DA:2 companions over Sera

Sera is a little grating at times but I would pick her any day of the week over idiots like fenris, anders, and merril.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

WindmillSlayer posted:

any fixes for

I've experienced it much less frequently after switching to borderless window mode (I was experiencing it almost every other cutscene for a while), it might also help to not just play the game for a while.
Do you have an Nvidia card? It might be that the game is poorly made for the latest Nvidia drivers, at least that's what I think might be the case.

e: Yeah you have an Nvidia card, that's what I thought.

Dallan Invictus
Oct 11, 2007

The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes, look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.

Kurtofan posted:

Hey does the game enter endstage if I do the story mission "Wicked Heart Wicked Eyes"? I still haven't explored Emprise du lion and Hissing Wastes.

No, there are a few more story missions to go before "endgame".

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Dallan Invictus posted:

No, there are a few more story missions to go before "endgame".

Cool, thanks.

Polaron
Oct 13, 2010

The Oncoming Storm
I'm a good 70 hours in, you'd think at some point I'd stop hitting the door to my quarters instead of the one leading to the war room.

Leelee
Jul 31, 2012

Syntax Error

Kurtofan posted:

Cool, thanks.

The game will really warn you before the point of no return.

Quinton
Apr 25, 2004

Two possibly dumb questions that I haven't stumbled over answers for yet...

How do fire/lightning/etc resists work? Is the percentage given the probability of resisting that type of damage or how much it reduces that type of damage or what exactly?

For Knight Enchanter -- do you *have* to use Spirit Blade to get the benefit of the damage->barrier ability or does that work on any damage? (I know there are benefits to being up close due to the mana regain ability, but I like ranged magic and am trying to figure out if KE is going to require completely abandoning that playstyle or not)

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

Lotish posted:

Certainly looks a lot better than when I gave that hairstyle to my Hawke.


I don't think that's bad :shobon:

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Oh man I was so stoked to read this thread when I met Sera for the first time just to see the reactions.

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Polaron
Oct 13, 2010

The Oncoming Storm

Karnegal posted:

For those with the party banter bug, some people seem to have found a work around that's working for some.

1.) Fast travel to a camp
2.) Mount up
3.) Dismount
4.) Rest at the camp
5.) Play

I've only given it 20-30 minutes, but I've already heard more party banter than I got in the previous 5-10 hours. I'm not sure if you need to do it every time you go to a new zone or what, but it seems to work. I am getting a weird glitch where Cassandra randomly says her "Again, we are victorious" line when we're just walking around as opposed to post-combat, but I'll take what I can get.

I wonder if the game for some reason thinks you're still on a horse and that's why people aren't getting any dialogue.

But then why would one team work for me?

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