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The Vosgian Beast posted:Moldbug does admire anti-semites though "Say what you will about National Socialism, at leas it's an ethos."
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I imagine that it's slightly difficult to make anti-Semitism a mainstream part of your philosophy when one of its most respected figures outside the movement is called Eliezer Yudkowsky. Not impossible, sure (bizarre mental gymnastics are kind of this lot's stock in trade), but difficult.
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Nov 24, 2014 18:21
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Darth Walrus posted:I imagine that it's slightly difficult to make anti-Semitism a mainstream part of your philosophy when one of its most respected figures outside the movement is called Eliezer Yudkowsky. Not impossible, sure (bizarre mental gymnastics are kind of this lot's stock in trade), but difficult. The Slate Star Codex guy is also ethnically Jewish, and they are all slavering over him and hoping he switches over to their side so he can become their co-leader with Nick Land/
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Nov 24, 2014 21:53
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Mr. Sunshine posted:Thank you for showing me the beauty that is Nanowar (they're on Spotify, btw). For real, this is exactly what I wanted to listen to and never even knew it.
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Nov 24, 2014 21:55
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bartlebyshop posted:The Slate Star Codex guy is also ethnically Jewish, and they are all slavering over him and hoping he switches over to their side so he can become their co-leader with Nick Land/
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Nov 25, 2014 00:23
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HEY GAL posted:What happened to him since he wrote those anti neo-reactionary blogposts (which were pretty good, iirc)?  He's made some good posts since then, but also some bad posts.
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Nov 25, 2014 00:38
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HEY GAL posted:No, what changed his mind to be more sympathetic to racism? I think he's moved rightward in some respects due to reading a lot of high-effort far-right stuff and a lot of low-effort liberal stuff. BTW, here's Jim (the loudest, dumbest, and most assholish of the Neoreactionaries) getting mad at Scott. Some good schadenfreude here: http://blog.jim.com/politics/no-enemies-to-the-left-no-friends-to-the-right-4/
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Nov 25, 2014 00:46
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HEY GAL posted:No, what changed his mind to be more sympathetic to racism? I think there was always some vague sympathy there. Scott's a classic case of White Dude Who Totally Supports Social Justice ... Until He Has To Give Something Up. At one point he was like "people said me and my friends, who are mostly white guys, have unconscious racism and sexism, but I know these guys and they're totally not racist or sexist." But SJ people kept pointing out that they almost certainly are in some ways, more and more aggressively, and he kept getting more and more hurt by it. This lead to several anti-SJ posts. Since he's never read any academic feminism or really any non-Tumblr feminism (a similar problem occurs with his understanding of socialism) he has a really weird idea of what most feminists actually believe or are like. ^^^^ Jim, as loudest and dumbest, and not Spandrell?
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Nov 25, 2014 01:39
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bartlebyshop posted:Jim, as loudest and dumbest, and not Spandrell? Jim by a landslide. Dude is pretty much always angrily declaring the exact opposite of reality.
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Nov 25, 2014 02:09
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Silver2195 posted:Jim by a landslide. Dude is pretty much always angrily declaring the exact opposite of reality. He works for  ?
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Nov 25, 2014 02:28
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Jim is the dumbest, Moldbug is the biggest, and Anissimov is the slimiest.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Jim is the dumbest, Moldbug is the biggest, and Anissimov is the slimiest.
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Nov 25, 2014 03:14
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Sham bam bamina! posted:What about Aurini? The Nosferatuest
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Sham bam bamina! posted:What about Aurini?
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Sham bam bamina! posted:What about Aurini? Kid brother trailing along behind begging to be part of the gang. Who's Aurini's fat friend who films himself in the tub?
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Jack Gladney posted:Kid brother trailing along behind begging to be part of the gang. Aspirational tubboi?
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Who the gently caress thought that "Dark Enlightment" is a good name for their movement? It sounds dumb as gently caress, like something made up by a 12 year old who thinks that he's an edgy genius
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Nov 25, 2014 11:28
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Well, these are the guys who made Magic cards of themselves, so...
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Why ask a question when you're going to just immediately answer it like that?
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RottenK posted:Who the gently caress thought that "Dark Enlightment" is a good name for their movement? You can't handle the hard truths these ubermensch are laying out like "that dum broken form of government from like 100 years ago was the best" and "Fascism would be great, I totally am not the exact kind of person a fascist regime would kill first for being too weak" so their enlightenment is as dark as the latest Evanescence* album. *(or whatever kids these days listen to, you get the point)
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DrProsek posted:You can't handle the hard truths these ubermensch are laying out like "that dum broken form of government from like 100 years ago was the best" and "Fascism would be great, I totally am not the exact kind of person a fascist regime would kill first for being too weak" so their enlightenment is as dark as the latest Evanescence* album. We alone, the vanguard of this new Dark Enlightenment, are strong enough to face these Dark truths: the blacks are stupid and women should shut up and do what we tell them.
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uber_stoat posted:We alone, the vanguard of this new Dark Enlightenment, are strong enough to face these Dark truths: the blacks are stupid and women should shut up and do what we tell them. Also, no homos.
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uber_stoat posted:We alone, the vanguard of this new Dark Enlightenment, are strong enough to face these Dark truths: the blacks are stupid and women should shut up and do what we tell them. This, of course, brings up the other fundamental problem with the name - why the hell would white-supremacists call themselves the Dark Enlightenment?
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Why do they call it black metal?
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Halloween Jack posted:Why do they call it black metal? Black metal isn't inherently racist, though (outside NSBM, anyway  ) - it's just very, very heavily populated by racists. 'Dark Enlightenment' sounds like an affirmative-action program for black students, which is literally the exact opposite of what these guys want.
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Darth Walrus posted:This, of course, brings up the other fundamental problem with the name - why the hell would white-supremacists call themselves the Dark Enlightenment? Because it's the opposite of the Enlightenment, which these guys blame for all society's ills.
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tbf at some point some of the less principled libertarians got honest and went from "no gods, no kings, only man" to "gently caress it i wanna be king"
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Darth Walrus posted:This, of course, brings up the other fundamental problem with the name - why the hell would white-supremacists call themselves the Dark Enlightenment? Why the hell would one of them be so crippingly retarded as to refer to himself as "Mencius Moldbug"?
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Because they are mentally children.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Why the hell would one of them be so crippingly retarded as to refer to himself as "Mencius Moldbug"? That, at least, is perfectly explicable, forum user Ugly In The Morning. Seriously, though, this is the internet. A whole lot of folks pick weird, quirky usernames without ever considering the possibility that they might someday become major figures. Hence why one of the more respected journalists covering the Arab Spring and its aftermath is called Brown Moses.
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Darth Walrus posted:That, at least, is perfectly explicable, forum user Ugly In The Morning. The question relates to names like "dark (x)" or "evil (y)" etc. They all appear to have a common origin, whatever that might be; adolescent attempts to quickly impress upon total strangers?
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Chocolate Teapot posted:The question relates to names like "dark (x)" or "evil (y)" etc. They all appear to have a common origin, whatever that might be; adolescent attempts to quickly impress upon total strangers? An adolescent drive to feel powerful by exerting control over something dangerous. I bet that a lot of them tent their fingers laugh maniacally to themselves when alone or in small groups, self-consciously emulating the supervillians they probably still read about each week at the comic book store.
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Here they are in their native habitat: http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkEnlightenment/comments/2jsmz6/people_on_the_fence_about_de_or_who_are/
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When they conquer the world, they're going to teach those fucks who made fun of them in the Rhy'Din chatrooms.
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Jack Gladney posted:Does this one count? SlateStarCodex posted:I’m trying to avoid discussion of reproductively mature female ants, but since some people I know have gotten involved I might as well give them a shoutout. SSC reader Mytheos Holt talks about the high level of bullying and cruelty in Internet feminism, and Internet feminists respond by making fun of his appearance a lot. I would love to know what is going on inside these people’s heads: “Somebody called us bullies! How can we disprove this? I know! Let’s call him ugly and make fun of his face!”. 
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I figured Mencius Moldbug's whole persona was basically an attempt to ape _why and other self-deprecating self-absorbed hacker figures -- silly name included. Compare the rhetoric in the Urbit docs ( http://doc.urbit.org/doc/ ) to i.e. the rhetoric in The Poignant Guide to Ruby (http://mislav.uniqpath.com/poignant-guide/) or The cDc #200 Higgledy-Piggledy-Big-Fat-Henacious-Mega-Mackadocious You-Can't-Even-Come-Close-So-Jump-Back-K-BOOMIDY-BOOMIDY-BOOM File. (http://www.textfiles.com/100/cDc-0200.txt)
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There's a new Slate Star Codex up, about how On the Road is a book about awful people doing awful things and SSC dude did not like it. Good! But the best moment of all is this comment:Davis M. J. Aurini posted:The worst thing about this book is the echoes of my own past that I see within it; a decade spent being pulled between the glory of Lord of the Rings, and the cynical nihilism of modernity’s ‘self-actualization’. The first seemed unattainable (it isn’t) the latter seemed fun and cool (it isn’t).
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