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Oxxidation posted:Sonic's problem has always been that he's got so few attacks with any actual heft behind them and you can't just annoy people to death in Smash matches unless you're playing stock. It doesn't help that few stages are the right shape to take advantage of his speed. That's what his problem was in Brawl, but now his up-smash and back air are awesome reliable ways to kill people. Forward and down smash too, but not as early. I played a shitload of Sonic in Brawl despite him being pretty bad, but I'd say he's fairly usable in Smash 4.
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I just watched two teams in a row gently caress themselves over by suiciding with < 3 seconds on the clock while in spectate This game 
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Nov 27, 2014 06:37
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People are whining about events because they're in the game. Had the mode been absent, people would instead be fondly reminiscing about the Event mode in Melee and how Smash 4 sucks for not having anything like it.
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Nov 27, 2014 06:42
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i didn't like the events much, but thinking back they aren't really any different than they ever were, so I'm thinking this is a golden sun:dark dawn scenario where it's not that they're bad now, but that they were always bad
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Nov 27, 2014 06:44
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Jesus christ, is everyone online a loving pro? I mean, seriously, what the hell? Every match is a stomp.
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Nov 27, 2014 06:48
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PerrineClostermann posted:Jesus christ, is everyone online a loving pro? I mean, seriously, what the hell? Every match is a stomp. This seems to be a trend across all Nintendo games
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Nov 27, 2014 06:51
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So people keep saying to use equipment to make things much easier. Which stats in particular are the best for besting the really hard stuff? I'm guessing power, followed by defense?
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Nov 27, 2014 06:55
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Regy Rusty posted:So people keep saying to use equipment to make things much easier. Which stats in particular are the best for besting the really hard stuff? I'm guessing power, followed by defense? basically just power, and any other side effects that are useful. I have a wario that heals when he KOs people and it makes Crazy Orders pretty easy.
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Nov 27, 2014 07:12
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I cleared Master Fortress, but I took to long and I got a time up while it was blowing up 
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Nov 27, 2014 07:13
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At what difficulty does Master Fortress show up? I haven't gone past 7.0 yet
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Nov 27, 2014 07:14
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Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:I tried to get a chain of 200 in Trophy Rush with DK, but the fucker is just so slow and clumsy that I couldn't do it. It's like teaching a retarded kid to tap-dance or something. JEsus Christ.
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Nov 27, 2014 07:14
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Cake Attack posted:i didn't like the events much, but thinking back they aren't really any different than they ever were, so I'm thinking this is a golden sun:dark dawn scenario where it's not that they're bad now, but that they were always bad idk I think Golden Sun is worse than the first two games but I defend those games more than they deserve to be defended.
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mabels big day posted:At what difficulty does Master Fortress show up? I haven't gone past 7.0 yet 8.0
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Nov 27, 2014 07:17
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Austrian mook posted:idk I think Golden Sun is worse than the first two games but I defend those games more than they deserve to be defended. okay yeah it's not a great analogy since dark dawn is definitely worse, although it's a mediocre vs. bad situation imo
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Nov 27, 2014 07:21
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Cake Attack posted:okay yeah it's not a great analogy since dark dawn is definitely worse, although it's a mediocre vs. bad situation imo I have a fondness for the originals that's mostly due to really great visuals and music (especially for the GBA) which is all people seemed to remember until Dark Dawn came out. That game ended on a complete clifhanger too 
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Nov 27, 2014 07:23
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PerrineClostermann posted:Jesus christ, is everyone online a loving pro? I mean, seriously, what the hell? Every match is a stomp. I don't really think of myself as very good, and the couple of for glory matches I played I did well, including winning the first one with Shulk. I guess your experience may vary.
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Nov 27, 2014 07:46
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Is there a list of which challenges are hiding custom moves?
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Nov 27, 2014 07:53
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Wow those top level challenges. Well I guess it's nice to have something I might unlock like 3 years from now because some of those are insane
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Nov 27, 2014 07:58
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Finally got my copy in the mail, can't wait to do event matches and complain about how unfair they are. My nnid is bobjr8 in case anyone wants to smash some future bros
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Nov 27, 2014 07:58
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Spinning Robo posted:Is there a list of which challenges are hiding custom moves? Going by this: http://www.destructoid.com/the-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u-challenges-guide-284165.phtml Here are the challenges hiding custom moves:
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Nov 27, 2014 08:02
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Event matches are cool and I'm glad they're back Also the orders are cool
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Nov 27, 2014 08:11
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Smash is a cool game and everything aside from "fight other people" is all gravy, except they can be bad gravy, like smash tour.
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Nov 27, 2014 08:17
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Reiley posted:Smash is a cool game and everything aside from "fight other people" is all gravy, except they can be bad gravy, like smash tour. Yeah basically The 3DS game to me is 100% 1v1, items off, Final Destination and I still enjoy it a lot, so having actual levels to play on and other cool stuff to do is a nice bonus. I haven't touched smash tour yet, there's not that many challenges for it right? Is it the streetsmash of Wii U in terms of challenges you will not want to get
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Nov 27, 2014 08:26
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Yeah basically It's just a lovely boardgame with occasional random matches. imo the actual fights were too few & far between and the stuff happening on the board is often really confusing and unclear, it's kind of a mess but you need to play one 15-minute game on each of the three board sizes to unlock Pac Land (which has a cool omega mode)
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Nov 27, 2014 08:38
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Does anyone have a spoilerific guide on hand for how to unlock all the characters and levels?
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Nov 27, 2014 08:39
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Heran Bago posted:Does anyone have a spoilerific guide on hand for how to unlock all the characters and levels? Stages: Pokemon Stadium 2 Clear the "When Lightning Strikes" event Smashville Clear the "Playing Tricks" event Kongo Jungle 64 Clear "The Original Heavyweights" event Duck Hunt Stage KO at least 1 fighter in Cruel Smash PAC-LAND Play all the maps in Smash Tour Flat Zone X As Mr. Game and Watch, break 100 blocks in a single game of Trophy Rush Characters are listed on there. Playing 100 smash matches gives you all of them too. I wanna know about the Music unlocks though
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Nov 27, 2014 08:47
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For stages go 'right, up, right, up' from the first event, play all the smash tour maps and then chain 100 blocks as G&W in Trophy Rush. The right, up, right,up thing gets you the bulk of them, and are generally the good stages.
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Nov 27, 2014 09:05
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Thanks for the sweet tips. I kind of want to unlock all the characters the hard way but I'll probably end up doing 100 special matches with 1-stock 300 damage. 
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Nov 27, 2014 09:14
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Yeah basically StreetSmash owns because you can do every "hard" challenge in StreetSmash by going into Training Mode and set things up as you please, and StreetSmash itself is fairly easy to get the hang of. Smash Tour is a pretty lovely replacement for Smash Run.
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Nov 27, 2014 09:54
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Goons after the release of SSB43DS: "God, Smash run loving sucks! Why would Sakurai even waste time including this?" Goons after the release of SSB4WiiU: "gently caress this Smash Tour business! Bring back Smash Run!  "
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Nov 27, 2014 11:24
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Smash Tour is especially bad because it is featured in main menu above the option for every other single player activity.
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Cicadas! posted:Goons after the release of SSB43DS: "God, Smash run loving sucks! Why would Sakurai even waste time including this?" Smash Run actually does suck when you first start playing but gets a lot more fun when you have some good powers and equipment to use, which are shared across every character. So by the time you're like 10 games in it's fun because the enemies die in one punch and you can summon a wall of swords to kill 3 screens of them. It's also not obvious you should equip powers and abilities off the bat, since you have to do it for every single character. I mean it's not GOOD but it definitely has a bad first impression compared to how it eventually works out. That said Events and Orders are better than any of the single player stuff 3DS had
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Cicadas! posted:Goons after the release of SSB43DS: "God, Smash run loving sucks! Why would Sakurai even waste time including this?" Kind of expected when you replace one bad mode for one that's even worse. THE AWESOME GHOST posted:That said Events and Orders are better than any of the single player stuff 3DS had Both are bad, the latter even more so since you can't co-op it. sigher fucked around with this message at 13:14 on Nov 27, 2014 |
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Nov 27, 2014 12:51
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:That said Events and Orders are better than any of the single player stuff 3DS had Oh, absolutely. Special Orders are the easily my favorite new mode, when they're not doing everything in their power to gently caress you over. Which is all the time. For example, I had a great Crazy Orders run going the other night, 3 CDs and a ton of other crap, and I felt like cashing in. So I go to fight Crazy Hand and everything's going normally until he uses the space-goatse attack and one of his cronies kicks me in. Unfortunately, instead of spitting me back out, the hole closed and my nametag was stuck floating in the middle of the screen, forever. Nothing could hit me, and no amount of button mashing did anything. There's no timer during the CH fight either, so I couldn't even time out to salvage some prizes. All I could do was quit back to the character select screen and flush aaallllll of those prizes down the cosmic shitter. I can handle a hammer spawning right in front of a CPU or the game dropping a bob-omb in front of you, but this was new. Fucker broke the game in just the right way to piss in my eye, that's dedication. Has this happened to anyone else, or am I just incredibly unlucky?
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Nov 27, 2014 12:53
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Since I've noticed people are going kinda bananas for him lately - how do you play well as Diddy Kong?
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Nov 27, 2014 13:14
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I just discovered tonight that if you hold up or down on the movement stick, then use the smash stick in the same direction, you perform your tilt. This is perfect for me because I loving cannot tilt to save my life. Thanks, Nintendo.
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Trudis posted:I just discovered tonight that if you hold up or down on the movement stick, then use the smash stick in the same direction, you perform your tilt. This is perfect for me because I loving cannot tilt to save my life. Thanks, Nintendo.
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Cat Machine posted:Since I've noticed people are going kinda bananas for him lately - how do you play well as Diddy Kong? His main strength is that if you grab and do a down throw, you can combo into aerial follow ups. At low percents this tacks on a lot of damage with front or back air, at high percents up air can get a kill. Throwing bananas forces the opponent to shield for an easy grab followup.
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