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Kitfox88 posted:
I can't imagine why people living in Scary Troll Sea are unhappy.
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Benly posted:I can't imagine why people living in Scary Troll Sea are unhappy. If you think that place is the wrong side of town whoo boy, don't head over to Scary Tunnels of the Lost. Nothing but batboys that swarm you in there.
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Nov 26, 2014 08:27
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Random question: Can immobile commanders(like Irminsul, Sphinx, big rock thing, statue pretenders etc.) Break Siege? As in, attack the army besieging the fort they are in?
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Nov 26, 2014 17:12
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M_Bison posted:
Put a pan or two into blood hunting, then once you get some construction research build a ton of black hearts, it'll make your dryads much more effective assassins. Seduce blows.
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Nov 26, 2014 17:38
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Or give the dryads some N gems and have them set up to spam the gently caress out of Swarm, failed seduction attempts will lead to dying in a wave of spiders and bees.
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Nov 26, 2014 17:44
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GenericOverusedName posted:Or give the dryads some N gems and have them set up to spam the gently caress out of Swarm, failed seduction attempts will lead to dying in a wave of spiders and bees. except that now failed seduction attempt half the time means "the dryad just hangs out"
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Nov 26, 2014 17:48
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jsoh posted:except that now failed seduction attempt half the time means "the dryad just hangs out"
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Nov 26, 2014 17:54
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jsoh posted:except that now failed seduction attempt half the time means "the dryad just hangs out" It depends on the morale of the unit you're trying to seduce, since the do-nothing event only happens on a seduction failure by 1 or 2. I would probably not use 400g blood hunters for the purpose of turning my dryads into assassins until like way late into the game. Luring some poor sap into sieging one of your castles and then wiping half his commanders with swarm seductions still works really drat well, and there are all kinds of interactions you can abuse depending on your opponents, like morale 30+ commanders pretty much always triggering an assassination. edit: Also I don't even wanna imagine having to deal with seduction + dark skies TheresNoThyme fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Nov 26, 2014 |
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Nov 26, 2014 17:59
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It's more of a thing that you generally do from inside a fort if someone dares siege you. They can't patrol you out and 1-2 casts of swarm will kill most commanders.
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Nov 26, 2014 18:47
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Werewhale posted:Random question: Can immobile commanders(like Irminsul, Sphinx, big rock thing, statue pretenders etc.) Break Siege? As in, attack the army besieging the fort they are in? Nope. Despite being able to patrol they can't break sieges. You can teleport them to provinces though to attack! 
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Nov 26, 2014 20:07
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TheresNoThyme posted:It depends on the morale of the unit you're trying to seduce, since the do-nothing event only happens on a seduction failure by 1 or 2. To be fair, I first came up with that strat for MA Pangaea, which has much better blood.
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Nov 26, 2014 21:05
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TheresNoThyme posted:I would probably not use 400g blood hunters for the purpose of turning my dryads into assassins until like way late into the game. Almost certainly will not run from a stray hit, same useful magic, cheaper.
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Nov 26, 2014 22:06
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Coolest thing I did with Dryads was seduce indy mages. The best was a vampire count from the event where he attacks.
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Nov 26, 2014 22:59
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Are there any units with seduce that could be used as bodyguards?
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Nov 27, 2014 00:33
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Demiurge4 posted:Are there any units with seduce that could be used as bodyguards? seduce is a commander only thing
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Nov 27, 2014 00:54
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We need a spell that's like a reverse GoR so you can turn commanders into troops, obviously. 
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Nov 27, 2014 00:59
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Kitfox88 posted:We need a spell that's like a reverse GoR so you can turn commanders into troops, obviously. Enslave Mind and Master Enslave do that
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Nov 27, 2014 01:10
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Oh I thought they just gave you control of the commander.
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Nov 27, 2014 01:35
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Nope, they make them into units. Seduction, Charm, and Hellbind Heart keeps their commanderyness, however.
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Nov 27, 2014 01:40
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So far my favorite faction is MA R'leyh, but I am reading conflicting things about the void gate - is it affected by luck and magic scales? Is it worth it to max out scales or bless and hope for lucky pulls from the gate?
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Nov 27, 2014 01:41
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Urban Sorcerer posted:So far my favorite faction is MA R'leyh, but I am reading conflicting things about the void gate - is it affected by luck and magic scales? Is it worth it to max out scales or bless and hope for lucky pulls from the gate? No. Magic scales are worth it though just for the research bonus: Rlyeh wants to get lots of magic research done asap.
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Nov 27, 2014 03:25
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MA R'lyeh is fun but their mages are kinda bad on land. More likely you'll just fortify the oceans like a fat guy occupies the hot tub and occasionally throw a mind hunt or vengeance of the dead at the dumb landdwellers.
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Nov 27, 2014 03:55
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amuayse posted:MA R'lyeh is fun but their mages are kinda bad on land. This is the best part about water nations tbh.
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Nov 27, 2014 04:08
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Kitfox88 posted:This is the best part about water nations tbh. Don't forget dompushing Vengeful Waters ashore, or wishing for Armageddon every turn.
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Nov 27, 2014 05:37
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water nations pretty much exemplify the mindset of 'well i can't do poo poo to win the game but i swear to god everything on land is going to get hosed up if i have anything to do with it'. wish engines are especially fun for just cranking out reality-bending poo poo as often as possible.
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Nov 27, 2014 06:06
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People from another forum I use just finished a game and Oceania won. It can happen!
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Nov 27, 2014 10:06
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Turin Turambar posted:People from another forum I use just finished a game and Oceania won. It can happen!
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Nov 27, 2014 15:13
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Isn't Oceania like amphibious and have the equivalent to white centaurs
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Nov 27, 2014 15:29
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amuayse posted:Isn't Oceania like amphibious and have the equivalent to white centaurs They have less defense, slower movement = less lance damage, and absolutely absurd encumbrance. Not to mention costing 20% more and lacking a good amphibious priest.
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Nov 27, 2014 15:36
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amuayse posted:Isn't Oceania like amphibious and have the equivalent to white centaurs
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Nov 27, 2014 15:37
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Well I just think of it as being the best at the Special Olympics.
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Nov 27, 2014 18:04
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BurntCornMuffin posted:Don't forget dompushing Vengeful Waters ashore Don't Ocean nations really suck at dompushing due to how water provinces tend to work?
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Nov 28, 2014 12:17
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Don't over think how Oceania won. I think most Dominions games are half won through diplomacy and just sheer luck (initial position, throne locations, neighbour that chose to focus attacking another neighbour instead of you), and only half won through your quality as nation.
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Nov 28, 2014 14:02
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The Sharmat posted:Don't Ocean nations really suck at dompushing due to how water provinces tend to work?
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Nov 28, 2014 14:42
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jBrereton posted:Erm kinda. Obviously none of them can blood sac, which is a big thing, and they typically have so many fuckin borders by land that it's hard to get critical mass of candles elsewhere anyway, which was maybe what you meant. On the other hand, if you take a gimmicky map without any land, all this is irrelevant and underwater-nations can stand on their own. Just too bad for the land-water interaction in normal maps.
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Nov 28, 2014 14:50
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Apart from not really, at least in MA, because water doesn't have enough resources in it to truly mass anything but 2/3r troops.
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Nov 28, 2014 14:52
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jBrereton posted:Apart from not really, at least in MA, because water doesn't have enough resources in it to truly mass anything but 2/3r troops. My point was, when there is only water (so no land-nations), then the underwater nations reign supreme. Was my joke too subtle?
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Nov 28, 2014 15:05
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No I understood, just, they aren't even fun just underwater 
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Nov 28, 2014 15:16
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Really one of the big humps is that UW provinces are generally just poo poo compared to land provinces. 
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Once found a (blood) Slave Market underwater. Not quite sure how that works.
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