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Mister Macys posted:Hasn't Russia been calling Chechens that for over a decade?
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kik2dagroin posted:Roundup of the last two days:
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Nov 27, 2014 15:12
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anonumos posted:The projection amazes me most of all. 'The Democrats are doing <thing that Republicans do on a daily basis>.' This has been driving me crazy since I first became aware of it as a child, and I desperately want Dems to just scream this poo poo at them and then start throwing chairs.
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Nov 27, 2014 16:46
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Bloomberg counts as Right Wing Media, right?
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Nov 27, 2014 16:52
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kik2dagroin posted:Roundup of the last two days: "I, as a White Conservative, will now roleplay completely accurately as a Black Liberal: 'Us blacks rule this country! Democrats why ya gotta be so god drat racist!? Obama, why ya gotta be helping those illegals? They got different color skin than us! I'm the problem with this country 'cuz I'm just too god drat stupid to vote for the Republican! hur hur!' Thank you, Thank you." - An rear end in a top hat
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Phone posted:Bloomberg counts as Right Wing Media, right? Dear god. Is that a real cover that someone allegedly in graphic design created, got approved, and had printed?
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Nov 27, 2014 16:57
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Flobbster posted:Dear god. Is that a real cover that someone allegedly in graphic design created, got approved, and had printed? http://www.coverjunkie.com/magazines/139
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Nov 27, 2014 17:06
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I love how they have Samus in her suit flying away. Yep, this was done by someone who has no clue about video games.
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Nov 27, 2014 17:10
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RadicalR posted:I love how they have Samus in her suit flying away. Yep, this was done by someone who has no clue about video games. 
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Nov 27, 2014 17:11
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i am harry posted:This has been driving me crazy since I first became aware of it as a child, and I desperately want Dems to just scream this poo poo at them and then start throwing chairs. It's an old tactic, perfected by Karl Rove. Accuse your opponent of whatever lovely thing it is that you're doing.
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Nov 27, 2014 17:14
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RadicalR posted:someone who has no clue about video games.
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Nov 27, 2014 17:15
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Aside from it being a terrible artistic choice, I don't think Sarkeesian is on a crusade against trolls. Is this one of those things where they're trying to confuse me so much I seek out the article to see how dumb it is?
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Nov 27, 2014 17:15
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Popular Thug Drink posted:Aside from it being a terrible artistic choice, I don't think Sarkeesian is on a crusade against trolls. Is this one of those things where they're trying to confuse me so much I seek out the article to see how dumb it is? Go through the cover catalog and you'll discover this is about mean-level stupid for bloomberg. They're practically clickbait in magazine form.
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Nov 27, 2014 17:23
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Forgall posted:Russians don't consider Chechens to be white. The internet certainly fooled me then... 
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Nov 27, 2014 17:59
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Mister Macys posted:The internet certainly fooled me then... Its almost like race is a bullshit social construct primarily used to arbitrarily divide people.
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Nov 27, 2014 18:10
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1stGear posted:Its almost like race is a bullshit social construct primarily used to arbitrarily divide people.
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Nov 27, 2014 18:23
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Popular Thug Drink posted:Aside from it being a terrible artistic choice, I don't think Sarkeesian is on a crusade against trolls. Is this one of those things where they're trying to confuse me so much I seek out the article to see how dumb it is? Actually, it's about ethics in games journalism.
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Nov 27, 2014 18:32
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i am harry posted:This has been driving me crazy since I first became aware of it as a child, and I desperately want Dems to just scream this poo poo at them and then start throwing chairs. Forgall posted:Russians don't consider Chechens to be white. 1stGear posted:Its almost like race is a bullshit social construct primarily used to arbitrarily divide people.
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Nov 27, 2014 18:53
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Chantilly Say posted:No, I think even most of the people who really do believe abortion is murder are too straight-edge to actually do violence over it. They'll get pissed off but it's a big leap from that to firebombing and murder for anyone but the most committed. They are pretty drat apathetic, then. People who believe the government is murdering a couple of hundred black people a year by way of police shooting are rioting in the streets. People who believe the government is murdering millions of babies a year just want to get snarky on the internet and maybe call a poor pregnant woman a whore. If I believed that abortion was really murder, I'd be in prison or dead right now. There's no way a moral person could just stand by and let millions of babies be killed without taking some kind of action to stop it.
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Nov 27, 2014 19:27
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fade5 posted:But they're from the Caucasus mountain, they're literally Caucasian. Racism isn't known for making sense and standing up to reason. e: Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:
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Nov 27, 2014 20:59
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fade5 posted:But they're from the Caucasus mountain, they're literally Caucasian. Caucasian is a very American term for describing white people. A lot of other languages just say white. You can bet your rear end the Russian conception of and language surrounding whiteness has not a single thing to do with the Caucasus region.
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Nov 27, 2014 21:07
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That Limbaugh screed where he tries to put himself in the shoes of a black American is probably the most racist thing I've ever read.
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Nov 27, 2014 21:23
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I was watching an NBC Nightly News segment about jewel thieves ramming stolen vehicles through the front door of jewelry stores and stealing merchandize with my parents. My mother shouted, "get a job!"
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ClearAirTurbulence posted:They are pretty drat apathetic, then. People who believe the government is murdering a couple of hundred black people a year by way of police shooting are rioting in the streets. People who believe the government is murdering millions of babies a year just want to get snarky on the internet and maybe call a poor pregnant woman a whore. People are in the streets because the system doesn't just not work for them, it's not supposed to work for them and barely pays lip service to the idea of working for them. People who think abortion is murder are comparatively much more apathetic than that because for one, while they might trump up fetal pictures as "LOOK AT THIS PERSON" there's still a big gap between that and "this guy, here's his name, here's all the people who knew him while he was alive." And for two, because they're very comfortable in the system as it is, so they don't want to rock the boat.
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Star Man posted:I was watching an NBC Nightly News segment about jewel thieves ramming stolen vehicles through the front door of jewelry stores and stealing merchandize with my parents. Was she yelling at you?
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Nov 28, 2014 02:47
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ClearAirTurbulence posted:If I believed that abortion was really murder, I'd be in prison or dead right now. There's no way a moral person could just stand by and let millions of babies be killed without taking some kind of action to stop it. Do you believe murder is murder? Are you dead or in jail from doing something about it? Do you believe homelessness and poverty are problems? Are you giving away every nickle you don't need to survive in order to solve that problem? Are you currently in some poverty-stricken area helping carry buckets of clean water for those who need it? There is a huge area between "absolutely bonkers all-in the justice train is coming WHOO WHOO" and "don't give a gently caress." There's plenty wrong with right-wing ideology and rhetoric, but the idea that you have to be out murdering abortion doctors to prove you care is dumb. Not murdering abortion doctors is a lot more consistent with "don't murder," anyway.
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CommieGIR posted:They used to have a token black girl... They also sometimes have Juan Williams. I think Bechel and the hobbit guy are the only real regulars, and then they just pull in whoever's chilling in the green room for other shows that day.
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Nov 28, 2014 04:55
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Star Man posted:I was watching an NBC Nightly News segment about jewel thieves ramming stolen vehicles through the front door of jewelry stores and stealing merchandize with my parents. But they have a job; stealing jewelry.
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Nov 28, 2014 05:07
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Centripetal Horse posted:Do you believe murder is murder? Are you dead or in jail from doing something about it? Do you believe homelessness and poverty are problems? Are you giving away every nickle you don't need to survive in order to solve that problem? Are you currently in some poverty-stricken area helping carry buckets of clean water for those who need it? Except murderers don't work at a murder clinic where you can find them consistently and I don't even know what point you think you're making comparing poverty to genocide but it's not whatever you think it is. If you're going to compare abortion providers to Hitler, then yes, you need to either be more proactive about stopping them than sharing pictures of fetuses on facebook or stop with the ridiculous hyperbole and admit that your reasons for caring have a lot more to do with shaming women than legitimately believing millions of lives are being taken. No one is saying pro-lifers don't care or aren't upset about abortions. People are saying they don't actually believe it's murder because if they did they'd be trying a lot harder to stop it. They're upset because "sluts are able to have consequence free sex."
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Nov 28, 2014 05:20
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Except murderers don't work at a murder clinic where you can find them consistently and I don't even know what point you think you're making comparing poverty to genocide but it's not whatever you think it is. If you're going to compare abortion providers to Hitler, then yes, you need to either be more proactive about stopping them than sharing pictures of fetuses on facebook or stop with the ridiculous hyperbole and admit that your reasons for caring have a lot more to do with shaming women than legitimately believing millions of lives are being taken. Do socialists actually believe that capitalism is evil and we need to replace it? If so, why aren't they organizing armed resistance movements here in the US?
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Nov 28, 2014 05:26
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Except murderers don't work at a murder clinic where you can find them consistently and I don't even know what point you think you're making comparing poverty to genocide but it's not whatever you think it is. If you're going to compare abortion providers to Hitler, then yes, you need to either be more proactive about stopping them than sharing pictures of fetuses on facebook or stop with the ridiculous hyperbole and admit that your reasons for caring have a lot more to do with shaming women than legitimately believing millions of lives are being taken. Eh, sure. They're either earnest and acting irrationally or rationally acting liars (I include lying to themselves here); either way I disagree with their policy proposals. Whichever one it is might help determine the best way to structure public arguments against them but it would be difficult to tell what proportion of them belongs to which of those groups.
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computer parts posted:Do socialists actually believe that capitalism is evil and we need to replace it? If so, why aren't they organizing armed resistance movements here in the US? Just to be clear I'm referring specifically to pro-life people who claim abortion is genocide and not just the ones who dislike it or think there are better alternatives. There just happen to be a shitload of those people. And there surely are socialists who are organizing armed resistance movements in the US, but a dozen radical socialists aren't going to ever be able to overthrow the US government the same way a dozen radical pro-lifers could stop the, as of last September, four third-trimester abortion providers in the US. Like, one guy with a gun literally killed a third of the late-term abortion providers in the country a few years ago. If even a handful of the people who spew this bile about abortion being the next Holocaust were actually serious, there'd be no late-term providers in the country. Even if you gathered every single person in the US who was even slightly open to the idea of socialism and convinced them that armed revolution was the best or only way to achieve that, they still wouldn't have a chance against the US military. Also this discussion is weird as gently caress. Chantilly Say posted:Eh, sure. They're either earnest and acting irrationally or rationally acting liars (I include lying to themselves here); either way I disagree with their policy proposals. Whichever one it is might help determine the best way to structure public arguments against them but it would be difficult to tell what proportion of them belongs to which of those groups. I'll agree with that.
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computer parts posted:Do socialists actually believe that capitalism is evil and we need to replace it? If so, why aren't they organizing armed resistance movements here in the US? Because some(?) of us are smart enough to realize how loving farcical that idea is. Armed resistance. In the US. That'll go far!
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computer parts posted:Do socialists actually believe that capitalism is evil and we need to replace it? If so, why aren't they organizing armed resistance movements here in the US? As much fun as it is to entertain the fantasy of an armed uprising, it would end swiftly and violently. Revolutions usually involve dead people.
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comes along bort posted:But they have a job; stealing jewelry. That sounds like the MO of the pink panther gang, in which case they don't just have a job, but full blown careers including training schools back home in Serbia and Montenegro.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:I don't even know what point you think you're making That sounds like a you problem. You're pretty funny pretending you don't see my point after using that weak sauce about, "... murderers don't work in murder clinics ..." Yeah, well done. No moral anti-abortion person could stand by and allow abortions to happen, but the other poo poo doesn't count because you'd have to do a little legwork. I didn't know that "lazy" was a substitute for "moral."
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Centripetal Horse posted:That sounds like a you problem. You're pretty funny pretending you don't see my point after using that weak sauce about, "... murderers don't work in murder clinics ..." Yeah, well done. No moral anti-abortion person could stand by and allow abortions to happen, but the other poo poo doesn't count because you'd have to do a little legwork. I didn't know that "lazy" was a substitute for "moral." But we have an entire system set up to catch murderers and stop them doing it again. Murder is already banned and we try to stop it as much as we can, and I don't think the controversial "anti-murder" brigade thinks going full Dexter would be an effective way to change that. Conversely, abortion is (still, just about) legal and there are abortion clinics across much of the country that are killing babies every day. Do you see the distinction? How one is already illegal and we divert resources to doing something about it, and the other is legal and we divert resources to doing it?
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