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I searched internally once and found workstations from the 80s doing noncritical stuff
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Nov 27, 2014 01:35
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i meant individual pieces of hardware no i meant pieces of hardware too i feel like every company that's been around for a while has a bunch of servers from way way back sitting around running non-essential (hopefully) services
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Nov 27, 2014 14:19
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most definitely banks
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Nov 27, 2014 14:47
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Valeyard posted:most definitely banks banks are pretty good at keeping poo poo under support. so the software may be old as gently caress, but it's either on new-ish hardware, or old hardware with a support contract to fix it when it breaks. see also: insurance, tori cmos etc the oldest poo poo is at hospitals: they try to keep poo poo under support, but (non-IBM) support contracts only last so many decades. unlike banks with their perpetual ibm mainframe support, a lot of hospitals and healthcare groups were early adopters on pissant minicomputer firms. #2 is small/midsize businesses with troubled histories. "capex dried up real bad after that brush with bankruptcy ten years back"
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Nov 27, 2014 18:24
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school central offices fall into the "old hardware/old software on new hardware with support contract until the end of time" bucket too even while the schools get new Dell workstations every year the records will be on an AS/400 forever and mail will be done on FirstClass forever
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Nov 27, 2014 18:37
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Luigi Thirty posted:school central offices fall into the "old hardware/old software on new hardware with support contract until the end of time" bucket too Idk I cjed for schools a lot a few years back and this was not the case
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Nov 28, 2014 03:58
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Bloody posted:Idk I cjed for schools a lot a few years back and this was not the case maybe just down here in florida then friday: "we will keep your resume in our system" monday: "we would like to begin the interview process, here take this personality test on our website"
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Nov 28, 2014 05:34
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BONGHITZ posted:what is a working mans language for a working man? Tef is right, Java. Or c# now I guess, we'll see how that works out. what's weird is that when I was writing java the challenge was trying to make it use less memory now the challenge is getting it to use more.
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Nov 28, 2014 06:00
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Luigi Thirty posted:maybe just down here in florida then Florida you say, would that be near Clearwater? be wary of "personality tests"
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Nov 28, 2014 09:16
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eschaton posted:Florida you say, would that be near Clearwater? the scientologists have a tent full of e-readers at the county fair every year here
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Nov 28, 2014 09:19
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rotor posted:Tef is right, Java. Or c# now I guess, we'll see how that works out. Java is just a dog whistle for we use bad operating systems Although now with c# being open sourced...
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Nov 28, 2014 14:43
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Bloody posted:Java is just a dog whistle for we use bad operating systems huh?
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Nov 28, 2014 19:40
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if you use good operating systems you have no reason to not use c#
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Nov 28, 2014 19:40
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Bloody posted:if you use good operating systems you have no reason to not use c# i think you are confused, op. c# is usually used on windows, which is a pos, whereas java is often used on linux, which is also a pos but slightly less bad
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Nov 28, 2014 20:00
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shag you forgot to switch from your alt
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Nov 28, 2014 20:01
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Bloody posted:if you use good operating systems you have no reason to not use c# windows owns, c# owns, ie owns
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Nov 28, 2014 20:07
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zokie posted:windows owns, c# owns, ie owns How many alts do you have shaggar?
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Nov 28, 2014 20:08
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has anyone said gonads yet? e: if i understand this right: http://fsharpforfunandprofit.com/posts/computation-expressions-bind/ then they let you overload your fake assignment operator, which certainly require some series gonads distortion park fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Nov 28, 2014 |
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Nov 28, 2014 20:11
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pointsofdata posted:has anyone said gonads yet? reserving 'gonadic io'. when is the namechange thread usually anyway?
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Nov 28, 2014 20:31
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AlsoD posted:'gonadic io'. a fistful of gonads
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Nov 28, 2014 21:49
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Janitor Prime posted:How many alts do you have shaggar? sorry, i love bikes and trains but hate java. you must have me confused with someone else
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Nov 29, 2014 00:27
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for you java people whats the best ide for it at the moment?
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Nov 29, 2014 00:34
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Seaside Loafer posted:for you java people whats the best ide for it at the moment? it has been IntelliJ idea for like over a decade now
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Nov 29, 2014 00:43
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sadly nobody actually uses intellij in the real world dehumanize yourself and face to eclipse
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Nov 29, 2014 00:44
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there's a guy at work who insists on writing all this enterprisey java we do in emacs and I'm like "why in gods name would you do that"
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Nov 29, 2014 00:44
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Soricidus posted:sadly nobody actually uses intellij in the real world that's a not true fact
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Nov 29, 2014 00:45
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curse your debating skills still gonna say eclipse is the most popular though, so if you don't want to be that guy who insists on using a different tool from everyone else in the team then it's probably worth getting comfortable with it there is no excuse for writing java in emacs, and i say this as someone who reads email in emacs
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Nov 29, 2014 00:57
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Soricidus posted:still gonna say eclipse is the most popular though worse is better wins again
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Nov 29, 2014 00:58
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Soricidus posted:sadly nobody actually uses intellij in the real world its true in the sense that i haven't heard of big investment into intellij until recently. google is switching the android IDE to an intellij core, and amazon is building out support for intellij in builder tools. FamDav fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Nov 29, 2014 |
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Nov 29, 2014 01:06
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ive really tried to use eclipse twice while here because it is so well supported but the IDE is just dog poo poo. if microsoft had open sourced visual studio or even just made it cross platform and made it less poo poo over the years maybe we wouldnt be in this situation.
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Nov 29, 2014 01:09
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eclipse is dogshit, the only good thing is their integrated compiler the code is garbage j2se 1.4
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Nov 29, 2014 01:14
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Malcolm XML posted:eclipse is dogshit this cannot be overstated
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Nov 29, 2014 01:16
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So would it be fair to say eclipse is the most used but intellij is better? This is for a small project and it looks like the free version will do what I need.
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Nov 29, 2014 01:17
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Seaside Loafer posted:So would it be fair to say eclipse is the most used but intellij is better? yes eclipse is terrible, if this is just a project you're doing then go with intellij
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Nov 29, 2014 01:19
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Soricidus posted:yes
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Nov 29, 2014 01:20
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Seaside Loafer posted:So would it be fair to say eclipse is the most used but intellij is better? it would be unfair because it doesn't do any justice to how incredibly poo poo eclipse is and how incredibly polished idea is
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Nov 29, 2014 01:21
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ok thanks, downloading intellij as we speak.
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Nov 29, 2014 01:22
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i was fiddling with the code formatter in eclipse today, trying to find a setting that would let me just push a button and fix the hideous mess left behind by a long-departed hack 10,000 individually-customizable options, each producing uglier results than the last
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btw this guy (sole trader running a pretty big business) only wants me to make a semi-functional prototype design and spec so if any of you are really good experienced phone/tablet app developers id be happy to pass on the love for the real deal once im done, i might do it myself but i might not have the chance skype=pauldevbrighton
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