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Much like Persona 4, the end of one labyrinth is a good time to go back and knock out the previous one's optional boss.
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Are the Card Soldiers just damage sponges? I'm fighting one right now, and they don't seem all that dangerous, but it's taking a while to bring them down.
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Nov 30, 2014 02:15
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Yeah, pretty much.
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Nov 30, 2014 02:16
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Dr. Fetus posted:Are the Card Soldiers just damage sponges? I'm fighting one right now, and they don't seem all that dangerous, but it's taking a while to bring them down. This game has a much gentler lead-in than any EO game I've ever played (most of them), even on the harder difficulties. The early FOEs can barely do anything past a normal attack, which I can only imagine is intentionally to make the beginning of the game consistently gentle before it ramps up later. They probably went a little too far on the easy side when even the FOEs don't do anything but eh. This game is great in case anyone reading this thread is on the fence.
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Nov 30, 2014 02:21
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Ruggington posted:all three of those happen in p4 though Not in the way I meant, but its a better topic for the megathread.
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Nov 30, 2014 02:43
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Dr. Fetus posted:Are the Card Soldiers just damage sponges? I'm fighting one right now, and they don't seem all that dangerous, but it's taking a while to bring them down. Weaknesses are far too important in this game. The first FOEs in the second labyrinth do have weaknesses and they're just much more enjoyable to fight.
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Nov 30, 2014 02:44
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Man, the third FOE of labyrinth two is way stronger than the previous two by a massive amount, it actually took effort to kill the moment I first found one.Dexie posted:What's a good level to do the "Investigate You in Wonderland" request? That drat beetle is kicking my rear end. I killed it the moment it showed up, level 20, but my entire front line was wearing the male&dog armor that unlocks from killing the second FOE in labyrinth two. If you've already got that just make sure to have lots of lightning damage as that's the only thing it's weak to, as well as tarunda.
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Nov 30, 2014 02:53
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I'm not nearly as far in the game as most of the rest of you and I don't have much to contribute to the thread, I just wanted to express the sheer happiness I feel to have Lotus Juice back in my life.
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Nov 30, 2014 03:12
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Dexie posted:What's a good level to do the "Investigate You in Wonderland" request? That drat beetle is kicking my rear end. equip kaguya on someone with a lightning skill. congrats, you are now basically invincible. also, someone give me a hint about this door puzzle on the fourth floor of the third labyrinth. no need to spoil the answer entirely, just a tip about what the letters mean, or where to find a clue in-game. Inflammatory fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Nov 30, 2014 |
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Nov 30, 2014 03:12
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Inflammatory posted:equip kaguya on someone with a lightning skill. congrats, you are now basically invincible. The letters are a complete red herring. You should ignore them. VVV I sympathize. Strange Quark fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Nov 30, 2014 |
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Nov 30, 2014 03:16
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Strange Quark posted:The letters are a complete red herring. You should ignore them. atlus 
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Nov 30, 2014 03:18
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Dr. Fetus posted:Are the Card Soldiers just damage sponges? I'm fighting one right now, and they don't seem all that dangerous, but it's taking a while to bring them down. Someone said status effects work well I think.
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Nov 30, 2014 03:23
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What spell gets rid of Stona?
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Nov 30, 2014 04:15
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TheJoker138 posted:What spell gets rid of Stona? anything that cures ailments. patra, patra stones, purifying rain, etc. i don't think there are any specific cures for specific ailments.
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Nov 30, 2014 04:16
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Inflammatory posted:anything that cures ailments. patra, patra stones, purifying rain, etc. i don't think there are any specific cures for specific ailments. Gah I forgot all my patra stones in the workshop and no one has patra in my crew. drat it.
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Nov 30, 2014 04:19
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getting hit by an element you null/absorb still removes boost. lame.
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Nov 30, 2014 05:02
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Inflammatory posted:getting hit by an element you null/absorb still removes boost. lame. Getting hit by a panicked teammate won't at least.
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Nov 30, 2014 05:04
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Inflammatory posted:getting hit by an element you null/absorb still removes boost. lame. jeez, that's lovely. I was hoping to use the wall skills to keep ma- spells from wiping out all my boosts.
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Nov 30, 2014 05:12
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Inflammatory posted:getting hit by an element you null/absorb still removes boost. lame. That's very strange, because Immunity Buffer (High chance to null physical attacks on user) doesn't remove boost when it triggers.
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Nov 30, 2014 05:14
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Huh, even on risky, the first boss wasn't too bad. I loved it when the card soldiers showed up because that meant free boost for everyone. And if I got lucky, an all out attack would kick in.  By the way, how good is poison? I never used it but I noticed that some of the personas could inflict it.
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Nov 30, 2014 05:19
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Dr. Fetus posted:Huh, even on risky, the first boss wasn't too bad. I loved it when the card soldiers showed up because that meant free boost for everyone. And if I got lucky, an all out attack would kick in. Very good if you can get it to stick. It does nearly 300 damage to things in the 2nd labyrinth for me, which is pretty nice.
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Nov 30, 2014 05:21
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Zurai posted:That's very strange, because Immunity Buffer (High chance to null physical attacks on user) doesn't remove boost when it triggers. okay maybe it's just absorb then. like in the early etrian odyssey games with the protector wall skills, where ailments would still stick if you absorbed the element of the attack that caused them, but not if you nulled it. Dr. Fetus posted:Huh, even on risky, the first boss wasn't too bad. I loved it when the card soldiers showed up because that meant free boost for everyone. And if I got lucky, an all out attack would kick in. poison damage seems to be a percentage of max health rather than scaling with the attack that caused it like in eo. it did pretty good against early foes but i haven't really used it for a while.
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Nov 30, 2014 05:22
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Note for anyone doing the "Investigate You in Wonderland!" quest: Don't go back to heal after killing the target. It'll respawn and you probably won't be very happy about it.
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Nov 30, 2014 05:37
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KingEffingFrost posted:Note for anyone doing the "Investigate You in Wonderland!" quest: Don't go back to heal after killing the target. It'll respawn and you probably won't be very happy about it. On that note, 100% of FOEs (at least up to floor 2 of labyrinth 4) respawn as soon as you leave the labyrinth. Bosses not included since they don't actually drop anything but key items in this game.
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Nov 30, 2014 05:39
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Inflammatory posted:poison damage seems to be a percentage of max health rather than scaling with the attack that caused it like in eo. it did pretty good against early foes but i haven't really used it for a while. It seems to be both: it's a percentage of max health, but different sources of poison can take away a different percentage. Weapons with a poison effect are a lot weaker than Poison Circle, for example. By the way, has anyone else noticed an issue with HP regeneration buffs not always restoring health at the end of a round? It seems as if it's related to changing the party formation during battle, which is annoying because I have a couple of characters that I like to switch between rows a lot.
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Nov 30, 2014 06:12
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holy poo poo, gently caress the old doll so much. even with impure reach, i cannot for the life of me land any magic binds on it.
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Nov 30, 2014 06:37
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Inflammatory posted:holy poo poo, gently caress the old doll so much. even with impure reach, i cannot for the life of me land any magic binds on it. Impure Reach affects ailments. You want Binding Hands for binds.  (Get Samael.) Strange Quark fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Nov 30, 2014 |
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Nov 30, 2014 06:47
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well poo poo.
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Nov 30, 2014 06:48
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Liking this a lot. I'm still very early on (just got sub personas) but I'm not using a "healer" at all because Yukiko is boring as hell and Naoto looks like she can do it with a sub persona just as hell. There's probably a lot of overlap between Yu, Chie and Kanji but it's just not a party without chie and kanji
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Liking this a lot. I'm still very early on (just got sub personas) but I'm not using a "healer" at all because Yukiko is boring as hell and Naoto looks like she can do it with a sub persona just as hell. yeah i've gotten to the fourth labyrinth without using yukiko or yukari so you should be fine. and naoto tears poo poo up with her instant death spells.
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I'm using Yukari but I can probably count on the fingers of one hand how many times I've used Mediarama. It's really not needed with Fuuka's basic Navi ability and good strategy. Naoto could easily cover the same role with an appropriate sub-Persona and do better at since she's way faster than Yukari or Yukiko. Only reason I'm not using her is I stupidly decided to switch three dungeons ago and she's way far behind now.
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Inflammatory posted:yeah i've gotten to the fourth labyrinth without using yukiko or yukari so you should be fine. and naoto tears poo poo up with her instant death spells. I was pretty dissapointed when it said Teddie has some healing except he doesn't start with it and his level 8 ability doesn't heal either so basically "Teddie will have healing after it's too late" Naoto was so bad in vanilla P4 they overcompensated and made her by far the best member in P4 Golden. She gets mind charge, top level nuke of every element, and light and dark, and strong AOE physical attacks, and Blocks 2 elements and resists a third. Glad to see they keep the trend up in PQ
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Dexie posted:What's a good level to do the "Investigate You in Wonderland" request? That drat beetle is kicking my rear end. poison is your best friend for these fights, it hits harder per turn than just about anything that isn't mind/power charged and practically everything is vulnerable to it. Get your mages some lightning, a protect skill on your tank, and a poison skill on someone and go to town. That fight is actually fantastic for grinding during the second dungeon because it respawns and has zero RNG bullshit, you're guaranteed a wad of experience and a low-30s level persona for winning, and the drop sells for more than the cost of healing so it's a net money gain.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I was pretty dissapointed when it said Teddie has some healing except he doesn't start with it and his level 8 ability doesn't heal either so basically "Teddie will have healing after it's too late" Yeah, Naoto is sort of stupid in this because the sub-Persona system gives her the flexability and sustain she needed before. Having almighty, dark, and light on hand at all times as well as a resistance to dark and light make her so much more useful than the other mages, especially if you slap a healing card on her as well. And if you get a boost then hey, free almighty nuke!
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Nov 30, 2014 07:46
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I should not be allowed to feel so good about using the arrows to draw how all the conveyor belts move you on the map. 
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Nov 30, 2014 08:05
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where do i find the arrow for this quest in the second labyrinth. i've explored the entire first floor unless there's a way back up from the second floor
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Nov 30, 2014 08:33
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Nevermind, I did it
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Nov 30, 2014 08:36
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So I'm a bit confused. I'm on floor 2 of the 3rd maze and I got a bunch of directions to follow on some paper but even going over my map that I'm pretty sure I got down perfectly I can't figure out where I'm supposed to take said steps. My first guess was the reference room but Naoto said not there.
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Nov 30, 2014 08:40
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Whelp, finally got around to finishing the first labyrinth and am now crippled with indecision as to what my team should be. Kinda wish I hadn't given Naoto my Media card so quickly, her new VA is just weird man. Also holy poo poo, P3MC blows P4MC out of the loving water. God I wish the people not in your active party still got experience. It's so dumb that after all this time they still haven't changed that in Persona games.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:So I'm a bit confused. I'm on floor 2 of the 3rd maze and I got a bunch of directions to follow on some paper but even going over my map that I'm pretty sure I got down perfectly I can't figure out where I'm supposed to take said steps. My first guess was the reference room but Naoto said not there. You just have to look on your map to see where you can walk that path. I find it's helpful to draw it using the auto walk line. You want to look out for some kind of loop.
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