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fart simpson posted:My company won't give these to us even though I've showed them this page, because the police randomly stop by the office a few times per year and ask HR to show them every employed foreigner's work permit or we get fined. It doesn't matter if we aren't even in the office that day, they need to see the work permit right now. Have them make a copy; at least you'll have the numbers so if on the off chance a cop checks you (they won't) you can at least give them whatever info they need to look you up.
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goldboilermark posted:This is the best advice. Yeah, if you're not being scammed you won't have any real problems so don't worry about the small stuff. Just smile, nod, give inconclusive answers if you don't want to commit to something, and enjoy the ride.
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VideoTapir posted:Have them make a copy; at least you'll have the numbers so if on the off chance a cop checks you (they won't) you can at least give them whatever info they need to look you up. I once got stopped at the border trying to reenter China and they said they needed to see my work permit, since it was supposed to be on me at all times. I had a copy. They wanted the original.
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Nov 28, 2014 08:05
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solution: do the obviously logical thing and stay in HK
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Nov 28, 2014 08:10
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because im here and i love you
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bad day posted:Happy Fire Chicken Day, Chinagoons! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVQe8ZE5_zY
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Nov 28, 2014 08:53
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fart simpson posted:I once got stopped at the border trying to reenter China and they said they needed to see my work permit, since it was supposed to be on me at all times. I had a copy. They wanted the original. So what ended up happening? Was it as hilarious a clusterfuck as I'm imagining?
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Cuatal posted:So what ended up happening? Was it as hilarious a clusterfuck as I'm imagining? No, they just kept me in a small interview room for about 10 minutes and asked like 3 more times to see the work permit, and I just said sorry, I don't have it. At the end they asked me my name and birthday and then let me go.
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Nov 28, 2014 13:00
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fart simpson posted:At the end they asked me my name and birthday and then let me go. lol
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Did they get you anything?
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Yeah, they let me kip out on a chair in an empty room for 10 minutes, if that counts.
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Nov 28, 2014 14:19
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This actually reminds me of how I ting-bu-dong'ed my way into China. I washed my passport in Tokyo in 2012 and when I came back to China, the immigration guy said in English "This passport is bad" and I said "ting bu dong" and he said in Chinese "this passport is bad" and I said "ting bu dong" and he said again "this passport can't work, it is bad" and i said "dui bu qi ting bu dong" so he looked at me a hot second then he just stamped it and let me through lol I literally ting bu donged my way into China in 2012
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goldboilermark posted:This actually reminds me of how I ting-bu-dong'ed my way into China. I washed my passport in Tokyo in 2012 and when I came back to China, the immigration guy said in English "This passport is bad" and I said "ting bu dong" and he said in Chinese "this passport is bad" and I said "ting bu dong" and he said again "this passport can't work, it is bad" and i said "dui bu qi ting bu dong" so he looked at me a hot second then he just stamped it and let me through lol That's amazing and awesome.
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Hokay, points taken about the FEC stuff - I appreciate the info, however it's phrased! :-) About the FEC age thing, the reason I was thinking about age = value is because someone told me that it was good as a solid indicator of work experience in China and in an area. Of course, like pretty much everyone else, I would be neither surprised nor heartbroken to find out that he was bullshitting...
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Atopian posted:Hokay, points taken about the FEC stuff - I appreciate the info, however it's phrased! :-) If you've worked in China for two years, they don't have to lie to the FSB about you and can easily just claim your past work experience. You don't need a little book to confirm that, the government can search your immigration history pretty easily. EDIT: Essentially what happens is that most provinces and municipalities require you to have at least two prior years of work experience and the majority of people going to work in China don't have that. Since the FSB can't just call up places in your home country, they could but the time difference and cost prevents this, employers usually just lie and use fake documents. This is why you get people with fake diplomas working in China. Once you meet all of those pre-requisites in China, you're automatically the most desirable employee because they don't have to lie/bribe your way in and they know you won't run off in the middle of the night. RocknRollaAyatollah fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Nov 28, 2014 |
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Well, lots of bullshit happens and so is everyone's accumulated work experience! Just be prepared to be flexible on certain things except, holidays, and pay. What kind of policy does your company have when it comes to holidays? Anyways, this stuff will surface in the future
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:Once you meet all of those pre-requisites in China, you're automatically the most desirable employee because they don't have to lie/bribe your way in and they know you won't run off in the middle of the night. Yeah what most companies are looking for in terms of teachers is along the lines of: doesn't show up to work drunk, won't impregnate the students, will finish contract and not run away and/or yell at everyone all the time. Having completed one or two contracts in China proves you fit these qualifications.
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bad day posted:Yeah what most companies are looking for in terms of teachers is along the lines of: doesn't show up to work drunk, won't impregnate the students, will finish contract and not run away and/or yell at everyone all the time. Having completed one or two contracts in China proves you fit these qualifications. Or it proves you're a high-functioning alcoholic who carries an emergency stash of abortifacients and contraceptive pills. 
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blinkyzero posted:Or it proves you're a high-functioning alcoholic who carries an emergency stash of abortifacients and contraceptive pills. Please stop talking about me behind my back 
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bad day posted:Yeah what most companies are looking for in terms of teachers is along the lines of: doesn't show up to work drunk, won't impregnate the students, will finish contract and not run away and/or yell at everyone all the time. Having completed one or two contracts in China proves you fit these qualifications. The fact that these issues are so common as to be the base requirement for an employer makes it super hard to take ESL teaching seriously, even when someone is actually super dedicated and puts a lot of care into their work. Like, which other fields have people show up to work drunk with this level of frequency? Coal mining? Construction work? Imagine talking to that one dude in the mine who takes his job super seriously and is always attempting to better himself and his craft. I mean sure, you're happy for him, but it's still "drat, this guy works in a coal mine surrounded by drunks."
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Welp It looks like https://www.shooter.cn shut down. This was the best website for finding Chinese subtitles. Does anyone know of any other sites for getting subtitles in Chinese at?
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Aero737 posted:Welp Seconding this, subtitle sites seem to all be gigantic piles of malware for some reason.
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Well some Chinese people are pretty much constantly drunk at work. Drinking Baijiu at lunch and sleeping it off in the afternoon is a requisite for being a boss. I think in many ways Chinese business is still culturally in the early 1970's. But yeah, showing up drunk to teach children would probably get you on some kind of registry in the USA. A student from Korea was telling me that his IB teacher (at an international school) would show up drunk, give the class an assignment like "write two pages about potatoes" and go to sleep at his desk.
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Nov 30, 2014 05:26
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If you use PPTV or whatever video player Chinese people always use, there's an auto-search for subtitles in the menu. The CCCP player also has a subtitle search. No need to go to a website.
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bad day posted:If you use PPTV or whatever video player Chinese people always use, there's an auto-search for subtitles in the menu. The CCCP player also has a subtitle search. No need to go to a website. Trying to avoid malware here.
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The last version of Xunlei player I used was relatively tame; you kill its process and it doesn't leave anything running.
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Grand Fromage posted:Trying to avoid malware here. Don't bother trying. Just give in.
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The China Megathread IV: Don't Bother Trying. Just Give In.
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Arglebargle III posted:The China Megathread IV: Don't Bother Trying. Just Give In.
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LentThem posted:Like, which other fields have people show up to work drunk with this level of frequency? Coal mining? Construction work? Imagine talking to that one dude in the mine who takes his job super seriously and is always attempting to better himself and his craft. I mean sure, you're happy for him, but it's still "drat, this guy works in a coal mine surrounded by drunks." In my experience, bar work, factory work, cleaning, accountancy (afternoons only), DJing, wedding arrangement. Probably loads more, but I'm only going off what I personally know. And no, it wasn't (usually) me.
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Arglebargle III posted:The China Megathread IV: Don't Bother Trying. Just Give In. I think more dudes in the SE Asia thread say that than here.
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Sure wish I had downloaded a good offline map on my Google Play using phone before I came. And my hostel wifi is too slow to even use a VPN properly. Also Beijing is cold. On the plus side, delicious dried pea snacks.
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Just get a 3G or LTE simcard
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Jeza posted:Sure wish I had downloaded a good offline map on my Google Play using phone before I came. And my hostel wifi is too slow to even use a VPN properly. Also Beijing is cold. Welcome to China
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Is this the right thread to post this? I've been living in China for a few years and I'm trying to bring my Chinese girlfriend back to the US for a visit this summer. I heard it is difficult to get a visa in this situation, she's saying that my mom and dad should send an invitation letter for her. Has anyone tried getting their so a visa? Is there any best way for it besides just having all the paperwork filled out?
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BaiSha posted:Is this the right thread to post this? I've been living in China for a few years and I'm trying to bring my Chinese girlfriend back to the US for a visit this summer. I heard it is difficult to get a visa in this situation, she's saying that my mom and dad should send an invitation letter for her. Has anyone tried getting their so a visa? Is there any best way for it besides just having all the paperwork filled out? That's how you would get a visa for China. I think you want this page (B-2 Visa): http://www.ustraveldocs.com/cn/cn-niv-typeb1b2.asp tl;dr - it looks like you need a form (which from my experience doesn't require any sort of invitation letter but double check), a passport, a passport photo, and $160.
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quote:That you have a residence outside the United States, as well as other binding social or economic ties, that will ensure your return abroad at the end of your visit This is the only part of the checklist that actually matters. If you girlfriend doesn't have money or property in her name good luck
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BaiSha posted:Is this the right thread to post this? I've been living in China for a few years and I'm trying to bring my Chinese girlfriend back to the US for a visit this summer. I heard it is difficult to get a visa in this situation, she's saying that my mom and dad should send an invitation letter for her. Has anyone tried getting their so a visa? Is there any best way for it besides just having all the paperwork filled out? Yeah it's the right thread. And quite a few horror stories from US goons bringing their Chinese girlfriends for vacation. Then again, this stuff was a few years ago, so restrictions might be different now. Ask TheBuilder, his sister in law overstayed her tourist visa and is a black worker (aka hei gong, aka 黑工) What's really important is your girlfriend's job and assets in China. If she's financially strong then State Department won't think she's trying to marry for a green card or over stay her visa.
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