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quote:@BlackBlueReview: Ron Rivera, again stressing personnel to blame for punt blocks: lol Rivera already setting himself up for his next job interview. edit* @SteveReedAP: Ron Rivera still believes the answers are on this team. "It's not like we don't have answers."
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For those that were bringing up the 'Rob Ryan out at the end of the season' talk. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/saints/2014/11/30/saints-sean-payton-rob-ryan-sideline-argument/19717407/ quote:"He's been outstanding," Payton said of Ryan. "Yeah, I get upset when there's 12 men on the field…
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Dec 1, 2014 19:01
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FizFashizzle posted:lol Rivera already setting himself up for his next job interview. Interviews like this always remind me of that old Casey Stengel quote from when he was managing the expansion 1962 Mets. Q: "Casey, what do you think about the execution of your team?" A: "I'm in favor of it."
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That Works posted:For those that were bringing up the 'Rob Ryan out at the end of the season' talk. I'm really surprised a head coach poised to win the NFC south and go to the playoffs isn't publicly throwing his defensive coordinator under the bus.
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FizFashizzle posted:I'm really surprised a head coach poised to win the NFC south and go to the playoffs isn't publicly throwing his defensive coordinator under the bus. Yeah, because winning the NFC South this year is really something to be proud of?
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Dec 1, 2014 19:13
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FizFashizzle posted:lol Rivera already setting himself up for his next job interview. Outside of obvious clock mismanagement and lovely coach speak, is Ron Rivera really that bad? What did the Carolina FO do to put a product on the field that could win ball games? The line is poo poo, the receivers are poo poo outside of your #1 and he's pretty alright, the running back situation is and has been poo poo for a long time, the secondary is Is Rivera the biggest problem with that organization? edit: I'm not trolling, I'm honestly asking your opinion, my dog.
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Dec 1, 2014 19:23
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Chilichimp posted:Outside of obvious clock mismanagement and lovely coach speak, is Ron Rivera really that bad? What did the Carolina FO do to put a product on the field that could win ball games? The receivers are better as a whole than last year, but there wasn't a lot of flexibility due to the cap situation. I'll spare you the specifics, but coaching philosophy and personnel decisions have crippled this team.
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:UTKevinAcee @UTKevinAcee · 5h 5 hours ago  This year's Ravens secondary is a lot like last year's O-line. The bar is so low that it will be hard for the team not to significantly improve. Maybe the Ravens still make the playoffs but I feel comfortable saying their is zero chance that they go on any kind of run if they do.
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http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/nov/30/philip-rivers-chargers-ravens-comeback-acee/quote:BALTIMORE — Philip Rivers required help to get upright from the trainer’s table and walked as if he needed oil in several spots. His words mostly came with labored breaths. He handled his dress shirt with his fingertips, as if applying it to his torso too suddenly would cause immense pain. Rivers 
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Dec 1, 2014 19:53
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FizFashizzle posted:The receivers are better as a whole than last year, but there wasn't a lot of flexibility due to the cap situation. Whoever he hired as Special Teams coach reflects badly on him. A blocked punt is bad but it can happen every now and again. To have two is a serious issue that shows the coach did not even bother make adjustments.
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Dec 1, 2014 20:21
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Swedgin posted:http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/nov/30/philip-rivers-chargers-ravens-comeback-acee/ Philip Rivers is the best QB in Chargers history
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Dec 1, 2014 20:22
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Doctor Butts posted:Injuries and not being able to consistently play above their level of talent. Yeah. Plus this is still a young team where they don't quite know how to win yet. I mean...this has been a good season for the Browns. They're just not at full potential yet. I'm still stupidly fascinated by how Manziel is going to do.
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FuzzySkinner posted:Yeah. Plus this is still a young team where they don't quite know how to win yet. Relentlessboredomm posted:Woah. I hate Tampa more than is healthy, it's a horrible terrible place but literally the one saving grace of that city is the fan-loving-tastic Cuban food and seafood. Surprisingly decent BBQ too.
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AAA DOLFAN posted:So if you only keep a quarterbacks good games and remove all his bad ones he's a good quarterback. Never thought of it like that. Hey, it works for pitcher evaluation.
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AAA DOLFAN posted:So if you only keep a quarterbacks good games and remove all his bad ones he's a good quarterback. Never thought of it like that. Nah, I'm saying if Teddy is Dalton without his occasional close-eyes-heave-ball game he'll be pretty good.
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:UTKevinAcee @UTKevinAcee · 5h 5 hours ago Read that Ravens?? Fire Pees NOW!!!
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he's rolling with the punches, or kicks heh, too hard
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Pron on VHS posted:he's rolling with the punches, or kicks heh, too hard No that was a different owned punter Steelers, the only franchise you can say "No, the OTHER punter we destroyed on a return"
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DangerKat posted:Looks like the Raiders got the message: this is my favorite friendly fire football gif this season aside from the Penn State dude viciously blocking two teammates.
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Dec 2, 2014 02:08
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Pron on VHS posted:he's rolling with the punches, or kicks heh, too hard Reminder: the guy who broke Huber's jaw hit him well away from the play after getting punked by a blocker. It wasn't him laying wood on a big block, it was him trying to save face.
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Chilichimp posted:Outside of obvious clock mismanagement and lovely coach speak, is Ron Rivera really that bad? What did the Carolina FO do to put a product on the field that could win ball games? The problem is last year Mike Mitchell and Quentin Mikel played really well and both of those guys were cast offs. The defensive line was the best in the NFL at rushing the passer due in no small part to the play of Greg Hardy - he and Johnson were a terrifying tandem, it also allowed them to do 07 giants type poo poo like shift one of them inside and bring on another edge rusher. Combine that with Luke and Davis and you had a dynamite front seven with a back four that could support the run. All they had to do was be decent against the pass and that's all they were. A year later Hardy gets put on the exempt list after being franchised for 15 million. Gross and Wharton who formed a very good left side of the line retire, Cam comes into the year not really doing much in training camp, suffering through lingering injuries -with rookies and free agents he needed to find chemistry with at receiver and a line that couldn't protect him. So the net result is safties who can't cover, corner backs who were never any good to start with and a defensive line that is no longer effective combined with an offensive line featuring two players out of five who should be starting for an NFL franchise, a group of running backs who got hurt from top to bottom and an offensive coordinator who didn't know what the no huddle was. That's not hyperbole either, like I'm not saying he's retarded here, he legitimately had to call Cam in for a meeting so Cam could explain to him how the concept worked. Couple that with Ron Rivera a guy who needs competent assistants to succeed simply failing to grasp the mood of the team and you have a recipe for implosion. Fiz is correct though. This is still a hangover from the Hurney years. The Franchise tag on Hardy couldn't really have been avoided but the lack of money outside of there to bring in a guard and a tackle along with a middling corner back and safety is what hurt more than anything. I fully think that while Shula and Rivera might not have been amazing for the next decade had the Panthers trotted out the same offensive and defensive lines this year as last year and Cam been healthy in the preseason they're leading the division right now. They were 3 and 2 at week 5. With the losses coming away to the Ravens and at home to the Steelers. It was after that things went downhill really quickly. The good thing is the team is easily repairable. It's just going to take some diligent management and an offensive coordinator who knows his ear hole from his rear end in a top hat but the core group is good. Newton, Olsen, Benjamin, Kalil, Tolbert, Philly Brown, Trai Turner form a decent enough player group for complementary pieces like Cotchery and co to be effective if the line gets fixed. Defensively Luke, Davis and Blackburn are a decent linebacker group, Star, Kawaan Short, Johnson and Hardy (if back) form a great defensive line and Norman and Beniwikere form a good enough defensive nucleus. The team is visibly lacking direction, identity and leadership that they had a year ago. It's Cam's offense and it's Luke's defense and that's fine for a long time (by NFL standards) they need coaches who can form a game plan allowing them to shine and limiting their weaknesses. Instead the coaches are actively ignoring the mood of the team in game situations and not finding ways to limit the failures.
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Ehud breaking his ceiling fan was the most eventful part of that game.
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Geno Smith is poo poo and I'm extremely scared that the next Jets draft pick is going to be Jameis Winston, who I don't trust to make it to rookie camp without committing a felony.
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Beautiful Ninja posted:Geno Smith is poo poo and I'm extremely scared that the next Jets draft pick is going to be Jameis Winston, who I don't trust to make it to rookie camp without committing a felony. As long as he gets bailed out in time to play, he'll be the best QB the Jets have had in years.
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@MMehtaNYDN: Rex Ryan: "I feel sick." I like Rex and feel bad for him.
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mcmagic posted:As long as he gets bailed out in time to play, he'll be the best QB the Jets have had in years. He's throwing a shitload of picks this year, so he's getting that part down.
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Ehud posted:@MMehtaNYDN: Rex Ryan: "I feel sick." He has been utterly incompetent as a HEAD coach for 6 years. He deserves no pity from anyone.
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Grittybeard posted:He's throwing a shitload of picks this year, so he's getting that part down. He hasn't lost a game since high schoool.
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mcmagic posted:He hasn't lost a game since high schoool. Wasn't there some stat kind of like that for AJ McCarron?
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mcmagic posted:He hasn't lost a game since high schoool. Man better go out and sign Ken Dorsey? He's still a very good prospect (depending on how much stock you put in off the field stuff obviously), but he doesn't look like the sure thing he was last year.
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Intruder posted:Wasn't there some stat kind of like that for AJ McCarron? You really think his physical tools are comparable to McCarron? Come on.
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mcmagic posted:You really think his physical tools are comparable to McCarron? Come on. Then talk about his physical tools instead of saying "He hasn't lost a game since high school"
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mcmagic posted:He has been utterly incompetent as a HEAD coach for 6 years. He deserves no pity from anyone. Yeah but he's still human.
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Burger Trench posted:Yeah but he's still human. He got to coach a team for 6 years with a VERY long leash while making a ton of money and being set up for a TV career or another DC job. He doesn't really need any pity.
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jameis winston will not last more than 2 years at most in the nfl
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Alouicious posted:jameis winston will not last more than 2 years at most in the nfl Because he's just a bad guy and won't be able to stay out of trouble or because he won't be good?
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