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Quote-Unquote posted:You could Google it rather than being snarky Also, because of their weight, can't they more easily survive a fall at terminal velocity, which means 8 or 20 stories will result in basically the same injuries?
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Araenna posted:Also, because of their weight, can't they more easily survive a fall at terminal velocity, which means 8 or 20 stories will result in basically the same injuries? I think that's the gist of it, with their instinctive righting ability. They'll get injured, of course, but things I've read suggest cats are surprisingly less likely to die from higher falls than smaller ones because of their ability to adjust their bodies to reduce terminal velocity and prepare their springy legs to absorb shock. Check out videos of cats in zero gravity. They keep trying to adjust to right themselves to whichever surface they think they are falling towards. It's pretty amazing.
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How did I get from fleas to falling cats? Am I subconsciously considering chucking Sampson out a window? Anyway, sprayed the whole house after vacuuming again. Not seen a flea for six hours now so hoping it has helped. Going to do another treatment every night this week. I'd get a flea collar but I tried to put a regular collar on him when I first adopted him but he screeched and tore around the house scratching until he bled trying to get it off so I don't think that's an option.
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Quote-Unquote posted:How did I get from fleas to falling cats? Am I subconsciously considering chucking Sampson out a window? Maybe you should get your friend a flea collar!  Flea collars are pretty useless. It's better to get something like Advantage since it also kills eggs. http://www.1800petmeds.com/Advantage+II+-prod10433.html
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IIRC there are a whole lot of design flaws in that falling cat study that all this is based on. Most importantly, people are way more likely to take a cat to the ER after it falls 10 stories than 1, even if the cat looks fine. And people are way more likely to take their cat to the ER after falling 1-2 stories if it actually appears injured than if it looks fine. Basically the study is dumb and there is no good data on any of this.
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I've recently discovered that a bicycle pump of the style below is a great piece of cat punishment/discouragement technology. It makes lots of weird noise and it blows air on them. My cat hates it. She'll run if she sees me reaching for it, and I even just now pantomimed using it and she hid under the bed. Let's hope that I can discourage her from eating her roommate's food with it.
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Quote-Unquote posted:You could Google it rather than being snarky This isn't heavily-theorized, it's a classic case of selection bias that your post doesn't even mention. Cats that fall 10 stories and go splat are unequivocally dead and aren't taken to the vet. The BBC article mentioned only looked at veterinary admission statistics, so it's a biased sample.
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Any recs for a spill-proof food bowl? Butts finally beefed up to where he can flip over the huge ceramic dog bowl I currently use. 
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in_cahoots posted:This isn't heavily-theorized, it's a classic case of selection bias that your post doesn't even mention. Cats that fall 10 stories and go splat are unequivocally dead and aren't taken to the vet. The BBC article mentioned only looked at veterinary admission statistics, so it's a biased sample. Ah okay, that makes sense.
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Barrista posted:Maybe you should get your friend a flea collar! I have read that putting a flea collar inside the vacuum cleaner help to kills flea that hatch from the eggs.
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in_cahoots posted:This isn't heavily-theorized, it's a classic case of selection bias that your post doesn't even mention. Cats that fall 10 stories and go splat are unequivocally dead and aren't taken to the vet. The BBC article mentioned only looked at veterinary admission statistics, so it's a biased sample. Heavily theorized or not we can safely assume that it is very bad for cats to fall off from high places yet they seem to have a better survivability rate than say a dog. Naturally that's not a reason to go throwing them off buildings to find out what happens. I still think it's pretty impressive how lightly some can come away from it.
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The blue bunny posted:I have read that putting a flea collar inside the vacuum cleaner help to kills flea that hatch from the eggs. I've read this as well, but I'd rather be vacuuming up dead fleas than hoping they die in the vacuum. Actually, I'd rather be vacuuming up no fleas, dead or alive.
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I know this is not the right thread, but I have no idea how to go about finding the right thread (...because I don't have platinum?  ). It's tangentially related.I've bought a pot for a new batch of  for my cat, but I have no idea how to go about it. Or rather (because I already have one pot, but that one seems to have passed its expiration date), I've been given some conflicting advice by various salespersons. It clearly says on the seeds to put them in some kind of soil (as opposed to simple water as per one saleswoman's advice)... it says nothing about drainage material, and another saleswoman said that if I put soil in I can omit drainage... or possibly I could go all drainage material  (but I've already bought a bag of soil). Also I shouldn't waste too much soil, and fill the pot only half-deep.Opinions? 
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Catnip is pretty easy to grow because it's an evil mint plant. Use your soil or potting medium, fill the pot to an inch or half-inch of the lip, and sow the seeds to the suggested depth and distance (don't pour in all the seeds; put them in a plastic baggy and keep them in your fridge). Don't let the soil stay dry for longer than a day before the plants are well established, but don't keep the pot soggy like mud. It's less complicated than the salesfolk are making it sound. If your pot has a hole in the bottom, then you don't need to worry so much about drainage, just make sure you've got the pot on a saucer to catch overflow when you water the plants. Before your nip gets a few inches high, keep it away from your cat(s) so it can get strong enough to survive a mowing session by your local addict.
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Why are you people debating how high your cat can fall without it getting hurt/dying? Just stop letting your cats fall off your house, holy gently caress.
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Drythe posted:Why are you people debating how high your cat can fall without it getting hurt/dying? Just stop letting your cats fall off your house, holy gently caress. Well you see it is okay if he falls because he'll only be hurt and not dead. 
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KKKlean Energy posted:As per the thread title we adopted two assholes from the local shelter. They tolerate each other fairly well (as evidenced by this photo) but sadly they don't actually get along very well, despite a promising start. Was wondering if any catgoons have advice for us for, at the very least, not making it worse (by inappropriately reacting to their occasional squabbles, for example) I'm right in the middle of this process as well. We've had our female cat for a few years now and introduced a new friendly male cat. He's usually the one who's trying to play, she's the one who's defensive and doesn't want to be bothered by this new guy. I'm just waiting it out at this point. I'm just glad we can leave the bedroom door open now rather than them having troubles even standing the sight of each other.  Here's a picture of them being okay with each other.
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Drythe posted:Why are you people debating how high your cat can fall without it getting hurt/dying? Just stop letting your cats fall off your house, holy gently caress. Wasn't really a debate, just talking about studies that suggest cats are more likely to survive higher falls. Turned out the study was very flawed, discussion ended.
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Shadowhand00 posted:I'm right in the middle of this process as well. We've had our female cat for a few years now and introduced a new friendly male cat. He's usually the one who's trying to play, she's the one who's defensive and doesn't want to be bothered by this new guy. I'm just waiting it out at this point. I'm just glad we can leave the bedroom door open now rather than them having troubles even standing the sight of each other. I suspect it's partly because female cats tend to be the territorial ones, though I've been told that a young, neutered male-female pair is the most likely to get along. Time will tell I guess. How long has it been since you got the new cat?
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Is there any way to teach cats to bury their poo poo? Both mine will paw at every surface nearby that ISN'T the litter they just defiled, (walls, floor, outside of litterbox, etc.) even when they're still in the box. Its kind of horrible being gassed by your cats dropping a deuce and not burying it.
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KKKlean Energy posted:I suspect it's partly because female cats tend to be the territorial ones, though I've been told that a young, neutered male-female pair is the most likely to get along. Time will tell I guess. Its been about 3 months now. In the morning, the female cat will walk around with her tail puffed out, wawiting for a fight. The male cat will run around, waiting for the female to chase him around. Its kind of hilarious and kind of sad since the girl cat just doesn't get it.
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Rand McNally posted:Sasha's gone now. I"m okay now but tonight, when I don't have her to snuggle.. yeah. 23.5 of the best years of my life (there weren't that many before that, got her when I was 5). One of the last photos of her was from last weekend.  So sorry for your loss. It sucks, that Parrots live forever but our feline friends don't. It's not fair and I've made that protest to the veterinarian!
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Shadowhand00 posted:Its been about 3 months now. You're not doing bad, honestly! I posted in May of 2013 about having a problem with a couple of my cats like this and they finally got over being offended at each other about two weeks ago. Cats. 
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I currently live in a place with a nice enclosed courtyard that my cat is happy to run around in without escaping (she's physically capable of it but too dumb to work it out and too timid to want to in any case). In a week or two I'll be moving to a house that has a massive back yard, but one that isn't nearly secure enough for me to want to let her out unsupervised. I'm thinking of building some kind of cat run/enclosure so she can still enjoy being outside a bit. Anyone got any recommendations for guides or ideas about what to make it out of or how expensive/difficult it's likely to be? I figure it can't be that expensive or difficult and would mostly involve a whole lot of chicken wire.
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piscesbobbie posted:
Mirthless posted:You're not doing bad, honestly! I posted in May of 2013 about having a problem with a couple of my cats like this and they finally got over being offended at each other about two weeks ago. Cats. My cats were finally ok enough with each other to sleep near each other after.....4-5 years?
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RedTonic posted:Catnip is pretty easy to grow because it's an evil mint plant. Use your soil or potting medium, fill the pot to an inch or half-inch of the lip, and sow the seeds to the suggested depth and distance (don't pour in all the seeds; put them in a plastic baggy and keep them in your fridge). Don't let the soil stay dry for longer than a day before the plants are well established, but don't keep the pot soggy like mud. It's less complicated than the salesfolk are making it sound. If your pot has a hole in the bottom, then you don't need to worry so much about drainage, just make sure you've got the pot on a saucer to catch overflow when you water the plants. Thanks for the advice. Although I didn't expect that people grow catnip, and I don't think it's catnip I'm growing, but for whatever reason I thought an emoticon would suffice. I'm growing simple grass. I think the advice is still valid, though. Organza Quiz posted:I currently live in a place with a nice enclosed courtyard that my cat is happy to run around in without escaping (she's physically capable of it but too dumb to work it out and too timid to want to in any case). In a week or two I'll be moving to a house that has a massive back yard, but one that isn't nearly secure enough for me to want to let her out unsupervised. I'm thinking of building some kind of cat run/enclosure so she can still enjoy being outside a bit. Anyone got any recommendations for guides or ideas about what to make it out of or how expensive/difficult it's likely to be? I figure it can't be that expensive or difficult and would mostly involve a whole lot of chicken wire. Are you sure chicken wire isn't your cat's favorite climbing material?
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toplitzin posted:Is there any way to teach cats to bury their poo poo? Are they kittens? I had a problem with one of mine. It was pretty annoying, but eventually she figured it out. She did the same thing you're describing and I tried to teach her by scrapping her paws in there litter, but that didn't help.
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Hell, grass is even easier. You don't even need it to be in light for an initial sprout. Just keep it somewhere warm for 3 - 5 days, like under your kitchen sink with shrink wrap over it and the drat stuff will sprout like stink. Really anything will work as long as you don't drown it or dehydrate it. Sorry for misunderstanding!
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TheAngryDrunk posted:Are they kittens? I had a problem with one of mine. It was pretty annoying, but eventually she figured it out. She did the same thing you're describing and I tried to teach her by scrapping her paws in there litter, but that didn't help. Nope, they're both about 3.
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supermikhail posted:Are you sure chicken wire isn't your cat's favorite climbing material? It may well be! I'm intending on making something closed at the top so it doesn't matter if she climbs it. That said, she has really terrible balance for a cat and I've never seen her climb anything in her life so it might not actually occur to her.
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MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOWMEOWMEOWMEOWMEOWMEOWMEOWMEOW I have a cat. I think the entire neighborhood knows I have a cat. The constant repetitive blasts of high-pitched sound may be sonicating my brain. He's 5ish, neutered, and was adopted from a shelter about six months ago after an unknown amount of time as a stray. This is not really new behavior, but it's getting worse. I usually feed the cats as soon as I get home at night, and after he finishes his dinner he settles in for a good two hours of constant meowing. And then just when I can't take it anymore and am thinking about what wine goes well with roast cat, he comes into the living room and curls up in my lap and purrs his furry little rear end off. I can't figure out what the hell he wants. He will stop temporarily if I lock him in the bathroom, and he doesn't meow while I'm out, so it's triggered by having a human around. The only time he's ever kept his mouth shut all evening was when I left several huge bowls of food out all day, to see how much the cats would need left for them while I was out of town for a weekend. Other than that, he has never, not once, gotten extra food as a result of all the meowing. Playtime and distractions help briefly, but even feathers-on-a-stick is less interesting than meowing at the walls. I'd try the trick of giving him treats when he's quiet, but he's super-extra-crazy food motivated and his behavior completely changes in the presence of treats. He actually shuts up and purrs and rubs my legs instead, but if charm doesn't help he then moves on to grabbing, swatting, scratching, clawing, etc. I can't seem to think of anything that's both rewarding enough to reinforce quietness and non-stimulating enough to avoid OMG TREATS mode. Any ideas?
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Some cats do this when they want to go outside, is it possible he's formerly an outdoor cat? In any case, it sounds like the previous owners of the cat reinforced some bad habits so he's probably shouting for something that seems obvious to him and he's going to keep shouting until he gets it or gives up. He should eventually figure out it's not going to work, but cats are very stubborn so it could be a while. Here's an article about this that seems pretty good quote:Hypervocalization as an attention-getting behavior should be conscientiously ignored, i.e. treated by attention withdrawal on the part of the owner. Note, however, the problem may get worse before it gets better. To hurry the process of attention withdrawal, the owner can use a "bridging stimulus," a neutral sound used to signal the owner's imminent withdrawal of attention or departure from a room. Duck calls, tuning forks, or sounding a low note on a piano may be used as bridging stimuli. The idea is not to punish but rather to signal to the cat that there is about to be a transition. toplitzin posted:Nope, they're both about 3. At this point you're probably stuck with unburied poops. Mirthless fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Dec 3, 2014 |
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Aradekasta posted:MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW Sounds like he's worried about not having enough food, considering he's been a stray for possibly a very long time and he shuts up if there's extra food around. Could you just leave out a bowl of dry food for him so he can see that he's not going to starve? From what you said it sounded like you feed him a set amount at meal times but also that he can be trusted not to just stuff his face with as much food as can fit in it at all times.
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supermikhail posted:I know this is not the right thread, but I have no idea how to go about finding the right thread (...because I don't have platinum? I am attempting to grow cat grass and nip. They came with soil when you buy herb kits. Plant seeds 5mm down from memory. I planted these catnip seeds 2.5month ago ( they probably need more sun and someone with a green thumb)  Pretend you live in Oz and ask these people for advise (they sell the catnip an cat grass seed here) http://mrfothergills-seeds-bulbs.com.au/Catnip-Seed-Raiser.html The blue bunny fucked around with this message at 11:25 on Dec 3, 2014 |
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One of my cats gets dangerously obsessed with cat grass, and if you leave him alone with it he will rip it all out and eat every piece before vomiting grassy foam everywhere. If you put it outside or away where he can't get it he yells at you to get it for him constantly
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CompactFanny posted:One of my cats gets dangerously obsessed with cat grass, and if you leave him alone with it he will rip it all out and eat every piece before vomiting grassy foam everywhere. Cat grass gluttony, amazing. Blue bunny, if you give them more light and warmth, those babby catmints should get much stronger. I'm guessing you're in NA so that might be a challenge if you don't have a south-facing window. Sticking them under a desk lamp that's safe to leave on while you're out is an option.
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toplitzin posted:Nope, they're both about 3. You might look into one of those covered litter boxes that has an air filter built in.
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Organza Quiz posted:I'm thinking of building some kind of cat run/enclosure so she can still enjoy being outside a bit. Anyone got any recommendations for guides or ideas about what to make it out of or how expensive/difficult it's likely to be? We use a 6'x12' dog kennel for our cat yard. Ours was new but I see them all the time on Craigslist. The kennel came with a sun shade that kept the cats in reliably until a grommet broke (a cat ran away but came back at dinner time). We recovered the top with chicken wire and it's working fine now.
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Mirthless posted:Some cats do this when they want to go outside, is it possible he's formerly an outdoor cat? In any case, it sounds like the previous owners of the cat reinforced some bad habits so he's probably shouting for something that seems obvious to him and he's going to keep shouting until he gets it or gives up. He should eventually figure out it's not going to work, but cats are very stubborn so it could be a while. I don't know if he was ever an "owned" outdoor cat - I live in a big city and it's not that common here. I haven't let him out since I got him. If it weren't for the screaming I'd let him hang out in the backyard, but I don't want him to have another thing to scream about. Thanks for the article. It says this gets worse before it gets better. It's getting worse. Maybe he'll stop soon?  Organza Quiz posted:Sounds like he's worried about not having enough food, considering he's been a stray for possibly a very long time and he shuts up if there's extra food around. Could you just leave out a bowl of dry food for him so he can see that he's not going to starve? From what you said it sounded like you feed him a set amount at meal times but also that he can be trusted not to just stuff his face with as much food as can fit in it at all times. I do feed set amounts. I'm trying to avoid leaving food out because the other cat is a fatty fat fat. He might just have to stay fat for a while, though. I'm not sure how long meowcat was a stray - he was neutered at the shelter, so that was pretty late, but I know he came in healthy and uninjured. The vet who saw him after I adopted him kept commenting on how lean and fit he was, and begged me not to let him get fat. The timing thing is just so weird. He doesn't yell after breakfast in the morning, but he always does after dinner. It doesn't matter what time I come home, whether I've been gone for an hour or ten, whether I ate out or cook in front of him. If he's worried about starving, he stops worrying after two hours. If I go to bed before two hours are up, he'll stop - but he knows the difference between going to bed and sitting in the bedroom with my laptop. If I'm home in the evening I'm just hanging around on the computer/watching TV/reading - not really giving him direct attention and not doing anything that changes after two hours. It's like he has a meow timer in his brain.
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Aradekasta posted:The timing thing is just so weird. He doesn't yell after breakfast in the morning, but he always does after dinner. It doesn't matter what time I come home, whether I've been gone for an hour or ten, whether I ate out or cook in front of him. If he's worried about starving, he stops worrying after two hours. If I go to bed before two hours are up, he'll stop - but he knows the difference between going to bed and sitting in the bedroom with my laptop. If I'm home in the evening I'm just hanging around on the computer/watching TV/reading - not really giving him direct attention and not doing anything that changes after two hours. It's like he has a meow timer in his brain. He's slowly getting better, this is 10 months in. Before November he would cry at the door at any time I was not in the apartment. Does anyone have a suggestion to stop a cat from petting/touching/grabbing your face if you pet him? Really annoying after he sheds a claw and in general. He's a very paw-touchy cat.
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