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uncleTomOfFinland posted:Alternatively, three sounds in succession which coincidentally is the international distress signal. Short short short, long long long, short short short. Thanks, some commercial for dish washing detergent!
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ultrabindu posted:Does anyone have a livestream link for the Budget statement please? always look to the auntie http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-30249297 That red planet joke was pretty good, I'll give you that one George. Private Eye fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Dec 3, 2014 |
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nopantsjack posted:Just a bit of fun! Well he did get two years for making the bomb. quote:Prosecutor Roger Smart accepted McGee was not a terrorist but an immature teenager. He kept a journal called Ryan’s Story with Scooby Doo stickers on the front, and inside drawings of guns, machetes, knuckledusters and knives. He was jailed for 24 months after admitting that between 1 and 3 September 2013 at Salford he made an explosive device.Prosecutor Roger Smart accepted McGee was not a terrorist but an immature teenager. He kept a journal called Ryan’s Story with Scooby Doo stickers on the front, and inside drawings of guns, machetes, knuckledusters and knives. He was jailed for 24 months after admitting that between 1 and 3 September 2013 at Salford he made an explosive device. Apparently even the prosecution accepted he wasn't a terrorist. I suspect there's more to it than meets the eye, as there usually is when reading media reports about trials.
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In train driver news, the details released say that the RMT is asserting a false positive due to by Type II diabetes. There seems to be some disagreement in strike leaflets as to whether the RMT is saying that LUL did not follow agreed procedure, or whether it is saying that the LUL did follow agreed procedure but the procedure should be changed. It is true that hypoglycemia can trigger a false positive via ketones in the breath, but it is also true that hypoglycemia can produce symptoms similar to intoxication - which is relevant for DUI prosecution (it's not your fault if you're diabetic - you're still not driving safely but you won't get slammed by DUI-specific laws) but not for machinery safety (the train doesn't give a drat whether you're disoriented due to alcohol or diabetes). Tribunal negotation has not been friendly to RMT arguments that employers must concretely prove alcohol consumption to dismiss workers on zero-tolerance grounds, really. The RMT lost the Metronet case in 2004, the one where beer cans were found. ronya fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Dec 3, 2014 |
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So are the TFL saying the driver didn't disclose he was type 2 diabetic? I'm pretty sure thats a condition that would prevent him from being an Underground driver.
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ronya posted:It is true that hypoglycemia can trigger a false positive via ketones in the breath, but it is also true that hypoglycemia can produce symptoms similar to intoxication - which is relevant for DUI prosecution (it's not your fault if you're diabetic) but not for machinery safety (the train doesn't give a drat whether you're disoriented due to alcohol or diabetes). Could you expand on this a bit more? I'm having a dumb moment right now. Is the disagreement about a point of law or about not correctly followed proceedures? Private Eye posted:always look to the auntie Thank ye.
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uncleTomOfFinland posted:Alternatively, three sounds in succession which coincidentally is the international distress signal. __________________________/ 
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ronya posted:There seems to be some disagreement in strike leaflets as to whether the RMT is saying that LUL did not follow agreed procedure, or whether it is saying that the LUL did follow agreed procedure but the procedure should be changed. That's not how I read it at all. LUL appear to have wilfully destroyed the piece of evidence that would have backed him up. The second sample is taken for exactly this reason, so you can dispute the results. I was told this when I undertook my DnA screen. You do have to take the breath test too, but you can also ask for a urine test instead. This whole thing is very shaky and LU are in the wrong in my opinion. As someone required to undertake identical procedures, their wilful destruction of the second sample is evidence enough.
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There's a remark in the RMT strike leaflet to the effect that the police wouldn't prosecute on breathalyser evidence (of a diabetic?) alone, so neither should LUL. It's not clear to me whether Acas would consider breathalyser evidence sufficient to exhaust the employer's responsibilities to investigate fairly, though. Bozza posted:That's not how I read it at all. LUL appear to have wilfully destroyed the piece of evidence that would have backed him up. is the sample taken for the drugs test, or for the alcohol test? Do you know whether LUL hands it over to a medical professional to assert fit/unfit, or does it interpret the results itself? ronya fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Dec 3, 2014 |
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serious gaylord posted:So are the TFL saying the driver didn't disclose he was type 2 diabetic? I'm pretty sure thats a condition that would prevent him from being an Underground driver. What makes you say that?
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Burqa King posted:What makes you say that? "common sense"
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Stamp duty changes, wooo! Because what the economy really needs is the easing of absolutely every impediment to rampant house price rises!
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Things other than female ejaculation that David Cameron doesn't understand: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron-calls-ed-balls-a-masosadist-in-runup-to-chancellors-budget-speech-9900651.html
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I know right?? I mean its a bloke in a box with a lever
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Burqa King posted:I know right?? I mean its a bloke in a box with a lever Ooh arr, ooh arr.
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Guavanaut posted:Things other than female ejaculation that David Cameron doesn't understand: Ed Balls Busting
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OzyMandrill posted:Stamp duty changes, wooo! The tax has been changed to become more sensible and not lead to stepped house prices, it's better for most people who would be buying and is an increase if you are buying for over £1 million. Seems ok to me https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/382324/Stamp_Duty_15.pdf
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OzyMandrill posted:Stamp duty changes, wooo! I assume the new bands have been designed to be revenue neutral. Even if they haven't, SDLT was a really dumb tax.
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Andre Le Fuckface posted:The tax has been changed to become more sensible and not lead to stepped house prices, it's better for most people who would be buying and is an increase if you are buying for over £1 million. Seems ok to me Not five minutes ago I saw some cretin on Sky saying that a family were going to have to reduce the asking price for their house but now are able to ask for more. This apparently is better for everyone. Evidently "everyone" doesn't include the people buying the house.
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Jedit posted:Not five minutes ago I saw some cretin on Sky saying that a family were going to have to reduce the asking price for their house but now are able to ask for more. This apparently is better for everyone. Evidently "everyone" doesn't include the people buying the house. It's not the kind of house price increase that stops the poors from getting on the housing ladder. It's just an anomaly whereby if your house is worth 255k, every buyer is only going to want to offer 250k max because the extra stamp duty immediately puts extra thousands on the price. It just distorts house prices for no good reason, but only for people owning houses with values close to a couple of arbitrary thresholds. Edit: As a buyer, I passed up a few nice places because I didn't want to pay the extra stamp duty, so I would venture it's even good news for them as well... Prince John fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Dec 3, 2014 |
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By DnA I mean "Drugs and Alcohol" btw, I had to take one as a precondition of my employment with Network Rail and a subsequent one when I reapplied for my Personal Track Safety competence which requires it.ronya posted:There's a remark in the RMT strike leaflet to the effect that the police wouldn't prosecute on breathalyser evidence (of a diabetic?) alone, so neither should LUL. It's taken for the drugs test, but the nurse indicates on the form if an alcohol test is also required. I blew 0% so she didn't request it, but you provide two samples so the second can be tested if you dispute the results. I'd imagine they outsource it to an external, I had my medical in a BUPA clinic (it also includes a sight, hearing and mobility test) which was then sent for processing at an independent lab. When you're given a DnA for an incident, they have to call a specialist nurse to come and do all the stuff usually, to deal with the samples. You don't just piss in a coke bottle and that's that, it requires a qualified medical practitioner.
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That private garden bridge in London has been approved. What austerity.
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twoot posted:That private garden bridge in London has been approved. New York has one so we have to have one because
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Burqa King posted:Prince John's neoliberal outlook suddenly makes sense... I'm still a glorious renter for another couple of months. But I won't lie, after years of saving for a deposit I'm pretty drat happy to finally be getting on the ladder. I shall take my place at the wall gracefully.
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Mr Cuddles posted:"common sense" Depends how bad his type 2 is. I doubt someone on tablet controlled diabetes type 2 is at risk of sudden coma. Prince John posted:I'm still a glorious renter for another couple of months. But I won't lie, after years of saving for a deposit I'm pretty drat happy to finally be getting on the ladder. I shall take my place at the wall gracefully. We can all respect the joy at finally crawling out of the mire. Doesn't mean you have to respect the existence of the mire.
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Not a great way to get greenery in the city. Probably be better to have planters line the bridge rather than deal with the (potentially expensive, considering it is a bridge) damage that planted trees can cause to concrete, like I saw in Dunblane. Or just admit it's a footbridge, and fund other green projects like giving out window planters in school as a biology lesson.Regarde Aduck posted:Depends how bad his type 2 is. I doubt someone on tablet controlled diabetes type 2 is at risk of sudden coma. Properly cared for, nearly zero risk of that. Type 1 is the real nasty one, with type 2 you'll probably only get lightheaded occasionally - assuming you're taking proper care of the disease (daily blood sugar tests, CGMs in some cases). Spooky Hyena fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Dec 3, 2014 |
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The change to stamp duty has been an obviously good idea for the reasons people have already pointed out. I would probably have made it old/new duty neutral for a purchase at £600k not £937.5k to increase revenue (Do we know these thresholds/rates were picked to make it revenue neutral? Probably, since 925k is really arbitrary at first glance.) from the tax and I think there should be a 2% surcharge on all second homes/buy to let purchases to give genuine home-buyers an advantage. Also they should scrap the tax deductibility of the interest on a rented property's mortgage but also legislate to scrap buy-to-let mortgages, i.e. people should be able to borrow for the same interest rate regardless of the purpose. At the moment the banks offer higher interest rates for buy-to-let (despite the fact they are obviously less risky in most cases) so it's really the bank that profits from the tax deduction, not the landlord.
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twoot posted:That private garden bridge in London has been approved. It's no different from that useless cable car they built. Speaking of: quote:"We didn't want any old bridge," says Richard De Cani, Transport for London's director of strategy and policy, who was instrumental in the Emirates Air Line cable car, east London's mostly empty aerial sponsorship opportunity. "We've got our lean, mean, efficient footbridges, like the Millennium and Hungerford, so we were interested in a bridge that did something else." It's a loving bridge. 
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OzyMandrill posted:Stamp duty changes, wooo! Turns out the slogan "We're all in this together" referred to accelerationism.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:At the moment the banks offer higher interest rates for buy-to-let (despite the fact they are obviously less risky in most cases) so it's really the bank that profits from the tax deduction, not the landlord. I wonder what the rationale is. I guess the bank is more insulated from "cannot pay the mortgage" risk but more vulnerable to a lack of upkeep/property damage caused by bad tenants?
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twoot posted:That private garden bridge in London has been approved. Unless they close it at night all I can see is a lovely picturesque new mugging location. As a bonus feature, easy disposal of weapons/evidence/bodies straight into the river too.
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Prince John posted:I wonder what the rationale is. I guess the bank is more insulated from "cannot pay the mortgage" risk but more vulnerable to a lack of upkeep/property damage caused by bad tenants? When has a bank ever needed a reason other than "because we can"?
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twoot posted:That private garden bridge in London has been approved. that article posted:Last month it emerged that groups of eight or larger will have to apply for permission to walk the bridge, partly to discourage protest groups from demonstrating on it. I'm sure that "no groups over 8" will never be applied selectively to keep out undesirables, and groups of 8 or more tourists waving around cameras will also be turned back :iamafag: Pesky Splinter posted:It's no different from that useless cable car they built. But but but I am expressing my bad taste and the fact that money trumps sense with this bridge. How dare you suggest that there is such a thing as a right time and place to do that  Seriously, that's almost as dumb as star architects who think "crumpled tissue paper" is a good way to design a roof (not a joke, people actually pay for that poo poo).
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Prince John posted:I wonder what the rationale is. I guess the bank is more insulated from "cannot pay the mortgage" risk but more vulnerable to a lack of upkeep/property damage caused by bad tenants? Head of nail meet hammer: Wolfsbane posted:When has a bank ever needed a reason other than "because we can"? Lack of upkeep/damage isn't really a risk the bank takes on (also that's the whole point of rental deposits), especially since it's so very unlikely a tenant could possibly damage a property enough to reduce the value of the property enough to put the landlord into negative equity.
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:It's ok, austerity is over  Nothing could possibly go wrong.
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EmptyVessel posted:Unless they close it at night all I can see is a lovely picturesque new mugging location. The group behind it have already said it's being locked overnight. Just another reason it's a pretty useless bridge. At least in the past the rich would gently caress off to the countryside instead of dumping their expensive follies where other people have to put up with them.
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