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Schneider Heim posted:I haven't read the original Hulk run beyond issue #1, but was there ever an explanation why Hulk became green from gray (and switching every now and then over the years)? It was easier to get consistent greens than greys from 60's comic book printers. In universe I think Peter David's run addresses it, but I haven't actually read it. (It's on my list, but I'm still working through Lee/Kirby F4 and Claremont's X-Men).
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 04:53 |
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Schneider Heim posted:I haven't read the original Hulk run beyond issue #1, but was there ever an explanation why Hulk became green from gray (and switching every now and then over the years)? Per Stan Lee in The Origins of Marvel Comics (which means take with a heavy dose of salt), the real-world explanation for why he was gray and then became green was that the color separation caused a really inconsistent look for the Hulk when he was gray. It was so off in one panel toward the end that the Hulk looked green and Stan went, "Hey... that could work!" The comic book explanation is... well, it was ignored for twenty-five years. It was the first issue so no one really cared and it was essentially trivia for comic nerds. Then Peter David came along in that period when everyone was going, "How about we try revamping things a bit." The Hulk was hit by a second gamma bomb and everyone thought he was dead. Instead, he went back to the original Hulk rules: gray skin, average intelligence, more malevolent, and changing at dusk and dawn. That was the Mr. Fixit period. Then the Hulk starts having issues where he starts going green, Banner is raging and childlike, he partially transforms, and things like that. That's when David whips out the thing that's kind of defined the character since then: the Hulk isn't like multiple personalities, Bruce Banner literally has MPD and each personality is a different facet of the Hulk. Then he gets therapy to resolve these personalities into one, commonly called Professor Hulk by fans, but that's its own story.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 05:45 |
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Thanks!
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 07:25 |
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Since he's apparently going to be a major character in The Flash TV show, can someone explain who Firestorm is?
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 09:15 |
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Chris Sims made a short video running down Firestorm's history a while ago.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 12:16 |
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That is way too detailed for what the show is probably going to shorten into "loved character A, died saving city, has fire powers".
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 12:36 |
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SirDan3k posted:That is way too detailed for what the show is probably going to shorten into "loved character A, died saving city, has fire powers". They've cast the other two dudes who commonly make up Firestorm. And this is a show that has had Rainbow Raider and Grodd appear.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 15:20 |
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SirDan3k posted:That is way too detailed for what the show is probably going to shorten into "loved character A, died saving city, has fire powers". Firestorm has general molecular-related powers, right? It's just the name and the hair that makes everyone think he's fire-based.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 15:25 |
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I can alter the molecular composition of all inorganic(?) material. Better shoot lasers! Same reason Green Lantern is mega lame in 90% of portrayals.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 16:34 |
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Chinaman7000 posted:I can alter the molecular composition of all inorganic(?) material. Better shoot lasers! Same reason Green Lantern is mega lame in 90% of portrayals. Animation budgets?
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 17:05 |
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Okay, so what are all the current DC Bat books that are good? I've lost track. Anything else good going on in DC?
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 17:08 |
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10 Beers posted:Okay, so what are all the current DC Bat books that are good? I've lost track. Anything else good going on in DC? I like Batman, Detective Comics, and Batgirl. I also think Justice League and Superman are quite good right now. EDIT: I don't care about Future's End but the rest of those he listed below are good too Senor Candle fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Dec 3, 2014 |
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10 Beers posted:Anything else good going on in DC? It depends on who you ask. People who read DC books think that there are some that are good. People who only read ABOUT the books on blogs and forums think that everything is terrible. I'm one of the former. Here's what I think is good: Batman Detective Comics Infinity Man and the Forever People Justice League 3000 Justice League United New 52 Futures End Star Spangled War Stories Featuring G.I. Zombie Superman Swamp Thing
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 17:29 |
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chime_on posted:It depends on who you ask. People who read DC books think that there are some that are good. People who only read ABOUT the books on blogs and forums think that everything is terrible. I'm one of the former. Here's what I think is good: Batman and Robin is pretty good. Green Arrow by Lemire is also pretty great. Action Comics is also good.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 17:31 |
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I'm currently enjoying Batgrl Batman and Robin Batman (up to the latest issue) Action Earth 2 Sinestro (aside from this crossover) Wonder Woman (up to #36, gently caress it after that) Batman Superman Superman Justice League 3000 Justice League United Superman Wonder Woman.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 17:44 |
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chime_on posted:
... That's a real title? That's kind of amazing, especially coming from one of the Big Two.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 17:48 |
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Rhyno posted:I'm currently enjoying
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 17:57 |
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redbackground posted:In that you did not care for the latest issue at all? I didn't like the overdone "Batman is prepared to fight Superman at all times nonsense. I'm still going to read the book but that fight scene was pretty bad.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 18:14 |
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Rhyno posted:I didn't like the overdone "Batman is prepared to fight Superman at all times nonsense. I'm still going to read the book but that fight scene was pretty bad. Due to Doomed I could see him being more prepared for Superman needing to be stopped. He is also hanging around Lex a lot.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 18:17 |
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Rhyno posted:Batgrl I can't tell if you did that on purpose or not.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 18:24 |
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10 Beers posted:Anything else good going on in DC?
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 18:31 |
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bobkatt013 posted:Due to Doomed I could see him being more prepared for Superman needing to be stopped. He is also hanging around Lex a lot. I guess. I just didn't like it much. Still willing to give Snyder some leeway for future issues. Senor Candle posted:I can't tell if you did that on purpose or not. Whoops.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 18:51 |
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Batgrrl
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 19:21 |
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Senor Candle posted:Batgrrl I'm down with it.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 19:40 |
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I thought Lemire left Green Arrow after his first run (the one with the different weapon clubs/totems), when did he go back to the book?
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 20:33 |
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Vincent posted:I thought Lemire left Green Arrow after his first run (the one with the different weapon clubs/totems), when did he go back to the book? Yeah but his run is still great. Do not forget the Future End issue.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 20:36 |
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Meanwhile "Tv Show Except Not" Green Arrow is pretty bad.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 20:43 |
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bobkatt013 posted:Yeah but his run is still great. Do not forget the Future End issue. Yeah, that story was very good, but I was asking if he went back to the book because I thought you meant that Lemire was writing GA again.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 21:01 |
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Skwirl posted:Since he's apparently going to be a major character in The Flash TV show, can someone explain who Firestorm is? Here is a brief rundown. The first Firestorm was Ronnie Raymond/Prof. Stein. Raymond was a somewhat dumb jock who want to anti-nuclear power demonstration to impress some girl. There was a meltdown and some magical radioctive things happened and Raymond's body combined with Stein's consciousness to form Firestorm. This was for the best as Raymond wasn't really great at science stuff so he depended on Steins voice inside his head to beat villains with more than just fire-blasts. Due to flagging sales Ostrander came onto the title and changed Firestorm into a fire elemental that was pretty...trippy I want to say (I haven't read those comics since I was 10 so cut me some slack). Later on Raymond "dies" and his powers transfer into Jason Rusch (who has also been cast in Flash apparently). Jason was also a high school kid but smarter than Ronnie. Unlike Ronnie who bonded with Stein, Jason could bond his powers with whoever was nearby. The downside of this was that it generally drained the person Jason bonded with. Anyway after a shaky start the Jason Firestorm stuff got pretty good so of course it wasn't longed for this world. Enter the new 52 which was fairly lovely (though I heard it get better after the initial creative team left the book but I stopped reading it by then) which had Jason and Ronnie be classmates who hate each other (one's the jock, the others the brains, oh no!). The were each a separate Firestorm but when they combined they became Fury.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 22:23 |
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Madkal posted:Here is a brief rundown. The first Firestorm was Ronnie Raymond/Prof. Stein. Raymond was a somewhat dumb jock who want to anti-nuclear power demonstration to impress some girl. There was a meltdown and some magical radioctive things happened and Raymond's body combined with Stein's consciousness to form Firestorm. This was for the best as Raymond wasn't really great at science stuff so he depended on Steins voice inside his head to beat villains with more than just fire-blasts. There was a boy-girl Firestorm before Blackest Night, wasn't there? And then she got killed.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 22:53 |
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prefect posted:There was a boy-girl Firestorm before Blackest Night, wasn't there? And then she got killed. That was Jason's girlfriend Gehenna, who had her own rather unique powers.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 22:58 |
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Madkal posted:That was Jason's girlfriend Gehenna, who had her own rather unique powers.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 23:06 |
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redbackground posted:She was a real salt-of-the-earth girl, too. DAD?
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 23:09 |
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Thanks, guys! Guess I might as well ask, what's everyone reading from Marvel?
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# ? Dec 4, 2014 00:58 |
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The only Marvel title I read month to month is Ms. Marvel. I wait for the collected editions of Daredevil, Deadpool, Hawkeye, She-Hulk, Superior Spider-Man, Superior Foes of Spider-Man, and Thunderbolts.
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# ? Dec 4, 2014 01:10 |
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I'm down to Hawkeye (when it comes out), Rocket Raccoon (great art, alright story), Elektra (still not sure if I'd recommend it) and Hawkeye vs Deadpool (one good issue, two okay issues). I'm reading a bunch of books my friend gets, but the only one I look forward to is Thor. Edit: ^^^^^^ Oh, yeah, Daredevil in trade and I really want to read Ms. Marvel but will wait for an eventual comiXology sale.
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Uthor posted:I'm down to Hawkeye (when it comes out), Rocket Raccoon (great art, alright story), Elektra (still not sure if I'd recommend it) and Hawkeye vs Deadpool (one good issue, two okay issues). Well, you won't have to worry about recommending Elektra much longer! My monthly Marvel reading is something like: Avengers New Avengers Daredevil (ending soonish) Elektra (canceled) Rocket Raccoon (probably dropping) Cyclops (might drop) Thor Angela (giving it another couple issues, anyway) Loki She-Hulk (canceled) Ultimate Spider-Man Ms. Marvel Miracleman Hawkeye (almost done)
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# ? Dec 4, 2014 01:56 |
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I liked the first two TPBs of Avengers/New Avengers. My friend got the books and gave me his digital codes. I think he's switched over to Marvel Unlimited, so I think I need to grab those on my own sometime in the future.
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# ? Dec 4, 2014 02:20 |
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Uthor posted:... That's a real title? That's kind of amazing, especially coming from one of the Big Two. It is. Written by Jimmy Palmiotti and Justin Gray, it is a super-weird blend of horror and war/espionage based around the black comedy premise of sending an undead soldier on what would otherwise be suicide missions. The covers are by Darwyn Cooke, interior art is by Scott Hampton. It's a gem that I don't think anyone besides me is reading, so I'm sure cancellation is in the cards.
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Are the omnibus that Dark Horse published of Lone War and Cub traditional U.S. comics style, or are they published like manga?
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# ? Dec 5, 2014 01:43 |