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bassguitarhero posted:Literally this. The only black person attacked by police that Obama gave a poo poo about was his personal good friend, a Harvard professor. It would be ironic that Obama's time as President will be one of the worst for civil rights for black people. At this point, I would imagine that, had Oscar Grant been shot by Mehserle during Obama's terms, the grand jury wouldn't have indicted him, either. So at this point, has Obama pardoned more turkeys than black men?
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Teddybear posted:The Rockefeller tree lighting is tonight on live national television. Protests are apparently inbound. Excellent...I imagine that only folks who still watch that are already folks who think the murder is justified.
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zoux posted:I read an article after the Wilson non-verdict came out, I can't remember where, but it showed that the language used in these cases is very similar to this type of lurid early 20th century journalistic obsession with the crazed or drugged out and unstoppable monster black man that was a window into white fears of blacks. Was it this one? http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...uman_demon.html I bookmarked this one too http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/making-sense-of-darren-wilsons-story
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Stultus Maximus posted:So at this point, has Obama pardoned more turkeys than black men? Well, he pardons two turkeys a year, so that's twelve so far, right? Here's the list of his pardons: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Barack_Obama Not implausible.
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AdmiralViscen posted:Was it this one? That's the one yeah.
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you know I made a joke in the Ferguson thread about the only way a cop would be arrested and charged would be if they got a tape of him executing a man. I forgot about Eric Garner when I made that joke  . gently caress this poo poo is depressing.
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Teddybear posted:The Rockefeller tree lighting is tonight on live national television. Protests are apparently inbound. The mayor has decided not to attend the lighting, for whatever that's worth.
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Dec 3, 2014 22:43
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As a white person, I hate my own race.
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Teddybear posted:The Rockefeller tree lighting is tonight on live national television. Protests are apparently inbound. Yeah DeBlasio cancelled his appearance at it minutes after this dropped
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Teddybear posted:Here's the list of his pardons: If, like me, you were curious about the guy who Obama pardoned for "mutilation of coins", here's the backstory. He was cutting the edges off pennies to trick a vending machine into thinking they were dimes. He never served any time, but that's a felony. Obama pardoned him so that he could get a gun permit.
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Also for whatever it's worth, twitter is blowing up about this right now. All but one of the top non-promoted trending topics in NYC are about the Garner decision and the top two in the US are as well.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:"Garner, a repeat criminal who had health problems, died as a result of the encounter." "When confronted about his illegal activity Garner refused to quickly obey the police, leading to his death." Rhesus Pieces posted:If John Crawford can get smoked by SWAT-wannabees on camera in a Wal-Mart and Eric Garner can get choked to death while being filmed from five feet away and all the officers involved get off scot-free there's no reason to believe that anything will happen to the cop that was filmed basically pulling a drive-by on a 12 year old boy. Yeah nothing's happening to that guy. "Well we had reports of a (black) person with a gun at a park" is going to be an extra large 'get away with murder' card. bassguitarhero posted:I'm gonna lose my mind if Obama goes back in front of the cameras again to tell black folks to keep lying down and taking it. Just make sure you have someone near by to take you to the hospital for your upcoming aneurism because if you think Obama isn't going to be meek as gently caress about race you're insane. Fried Chicken posted:Yeah DeBlasio cancelled his appearance at it minutes after this dropped It's going to be amazing seeing him get loving destroyed if he runs for reelection.
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What's sad is that I remember all the talk about DeBlasio being a new groundbreaking progressive mayor back from 2013, the foil to Ed Koch from the 1980s, and he's basically turned out to be NYC's Obama from what I can tell 
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Evil Fluffy posted:
In an open carry state no less.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:What's sad is that I remember all the talk about DeBlasio being a new groundbreaking progressive mayor back from 2013, the foil to Ed Koch from the 1980s, and he's basically turned out to be NYC's Obama from what I can tell *in Boris from the Wire voice* Was he a Democrat? Was he a minority? Then he was not progressive.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Just make sure you have someone near by to take you to the hospital for your upcoming aneurism because if you think Obama isn't going to be meek as gently caress about race you're insane. I just want him to shut up. That's all I want from him right now. I want him to shut up, sit down and stay invisible for the rest of his awful term. I'd rather him at least hide like a coward than get out and actively defend the system that's doing this.
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out of curiosity how did De Blasio gently caress up this one? I honestly don't know his role in all this.
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Monaghan posted:out of curiosity how did De Blasio gently caress up this one? I honestly don't know his role in all this. I'm guessing "not keeping the NYPD on a leash".
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bassguitarhero posted:I just want him to shut up. That's all I want from him right now. I want him to shut up, sit down and stay invisible for the rest of his awful term. I'd rather him at least hide like a coward than get out and actively defend the system that's doing this. Seriously, Obama is worse than Clinton about this poo poo. Oh wait. Well, he's worse than Carter!
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Monaghan posted:out of curiosity how did De Blasio gently caress up this one? I honestly don't know his role in all this. He didn't, really; mayors don't have a ton of direct control over criminal prosecutions and indictments. He has, however, been a surprisingly strong defender of NYPD's lovely policies.
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Hey guys, I'm told you want to feel worse about everything going on in the world, so here are the comments from cops/emergency services personnel/fans who frequent police site PoliceOne.com on this link http://www.policeone.com/Crowd-Control/articles/7921845-Lawyer-No-indictment-in-NYPD-in-custody-death/
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Teddybear posted:He didn't, really; mayors don't have a ton of direct control over criminal prosecutions and indictments. He has, however, been a surprisingly strong defender of NYPD's lovely policies. Stop and frisk has been effectively ended and he brought in the guy who reformed the LAPD to head the NYPD. We'll see how it shapes up overall
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Fried Chicken posted:Stop and frisk has been effectively ended and he brought in the guy who reformed the LAPD to head the NYPD. We'll see how it shapes up overall Well yeah but the "NYC Obama" thing is founded because while he has made needed progress, he campaigned as waaaay to the left of how he has actually been, and his opponent was fairly laughable. Of course, you don't get to be mayor of NYC by being honest. Or POTUS.
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Teddybear posted:He didn't, really; mayors don't have a ton of direct control over criminal prosecutions and indictments. He has, however, been a surprisingly strong defender of NYPD's lovely policies. I'm surprised he's defending the policies, since I just heard he's putting camera's on some of the police.
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bassguitarhero posted:I'm gonna lose my mind if Obama goes back in front of the cameras again to tell black folks to keep lying down and taking it. http://bigstory.ap.org/article/b8aa5127447e43bfb5997e3af00fa3da/obama-after-chokehold-decision-calls-trust posted:WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama says a decision by a New York grand jury not to indict a white police officer in the alleged chokehold death of an unarmed black man underscores the need to strengthen the trust and accountability between communities and law enforcement.
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Obama is one of the worst Presidents ever. Still not as bad as W Bush though.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:What's sad is that I remember all the talk about DeBlasio being a new groundbreaking progressive mayor back from 2013, the foil to Ed Koch from the 1980s, and he's basically turned out to be NYC's Obama from what I can tell I have a feeling that Obama/DeBlasio style mealy-mouthed disappointing centrism is as far left as the powers-that-be will allow a major government executive to go. America, circa 2019: "Man, I wish 'President Bernie' was more like 'Candidate Bernie', how awesome would that have been?  "Monaghan posted:I'm surprised he's defending the policies, since I just heard he's putting camera's on some of the police. The Garner case has demonstrated that all the body cameras in the world won't do a drat thing to get abusive cops indicted.
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Ninjasaurus posted:Obama is one of the worst Presidents ever. Still not as bad as W Bush though. He's not even in the top 10 worst presidents ever.
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zoux posted:He's not even in the top 10 worst presidents ever. He's not even in the top three worst presidents of my lifetime.
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Obama can be a terrible human being and still not rate as a top Bad POTUS. The competition is incredibly fierce.
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zoux posted:He's not even in the top 10 worst presidents ever. Even if you're only focusing on racial issues he's probably better than average (and by he I mean "anything that happened while he was President).
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“It’s a horrible thing that he was killed, but he could have avoided that if he’d behaved like something other than a thug.”- Huck.
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quote:underscores the need to strengthen the trust and accountability between communities and law enforcement. People being choked to death in the streets with zero consequences is not some embarrassing faux pas that we all need to hug it out over. gently caress you. 
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Cop murders a man on camera for selling loose cigarettes and gets away with it is, in Obama's eyes, a 'incidence where people lose confidence' in cops. Thanks for your insight, Obama. That is some real hard poo poo right there. Ninjasaurus posted:Obama is one of the worst Presidents ever. Still not as bad as W Bush though. Yeah but I voted for Obama!
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Quote of the day, “We have the ability to have a level of tolerance—breathing room, if you will.” ~ NYC Police Commission William Bratton, on their preparations for expected protests.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:The Garner case has demonstrated that all the body cameras in the world won't do a drat thing to get abusive cops indicted. Apart of me thinks/hopes that they would be a deterrent of abusive acts committed by the police, but after the result of the Eric Garner case, I'm a lot less hopeful.
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, “We have the ability to have a level of tolerance—breathing room, if you will.” ~ NYC Police Commission William Bratton. Wow
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Okay, okay. That was a bit of hyperbole. Obama is a terrible President but probably won't go down as one of the worst ever. Still not as terrible as Bush, though. PS I voted for Obama because the alternatives were horrifying. Stultus Maximus posted:He's not even in the top three worst presidents of my lifetime. Who's in your top 3?
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zoux posted:*in Boris from the Wire voice* Was he a Democrat? Was he a minority? Then he was not progressive. Why always Boris Joementum posted:they can do their jobs better if people have confidence in the law enforcement system. look, I'm gonna need you to kindly stop resisting me choking the gently caress out of you and have a little confidence, thanks
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