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I hope Arima steamrolls all over their beautiful performances. They are both shonen-rival-as-gently caress and don't deserve nice things. Why can't this be like Chihayafuru were every opponent was worthy of being a protagonist of their own series and had you rooting for them?
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I just finally found time in all the Thanksgiving Day craziness to watch this. Really glad for that. Anything that shortens the time I have to wait on the next episode after having seen this one. Takeshi's performance was pretty good, but Igawa's reminded me really strongly of the best parts of Chihayafuru. The colors and imagery association was a lot like Kana's poem explanations. I agree that the rivals seem pretty one-dimensional at the moment, but hopefully after Arima gets his big performance next episode, it'll pave the way for a more in-depth look at them.
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I think part of the "one dimensional-less-ness" of the rivals is that it's really a one-way rivalry. Kousei didn't have rivals. I loved how the two of them are at the top of the stairs, waiting for his dramatic entrance and he just looks at them and says, "Who are you?" Kousei simply never cared about things like rivalry with others. It was all about making mommy happy. I feel like Kousei was seriously affected by his mother's training and death. On the one hand, the show makes this obvious with his inability to hear the music he plays. That's serious. On the other hand, I don't think the show demonstrates to us that anyone else realizes how traumatic his upbringing was. No one else seems to understand what he went though. For the rivals, they were introduced rather late in the anime. Just a couple of episodes ago. Now, we learn they've been driving most of their careers by a fierce competition/love with/for Kousei that he was totally unaware of. I want to see him re-kindle a new-found love for music and find his own musical style. According to the show, he won all the competitions but only because he played flawlessly and without any kind of unique style or flair of his own. It won events but not hearts. I seriously doubt he'll win this competition. I'd like to see him get his ability to hear his own music back, though.
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Dan7el posted:I think part of the "one dimensional-less-ness" of the rivals is that it's really a one-way rivalry. Kousei didn't have rivals. I loved how the two of them are at the top of the stairs, waiting for his dramatic entrance and he just looks at them and says, "Who are you?" Hey, I am perfectly OK with one-dimensional rivals. However, if you don't want to give any depth to them, then don't waste an entire episode explaining their one single aspect of their character. My frustration was because I was watching each scene expecting to see one single reason why these people want to succeed that doesn't involve Kousei, while all it did was reinforce how obsessed they are with him. One of them refused an invitation to an overseas competition in order to compete in one he has already won, just because MAYBE this time Kousei will be there. That's so shonen-rival that I expect Arima to go super-sayan during his performance.
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Rexides posted:Hey, I am perfectly OK with one-dimensional rivals. However, if you don't want to give any depth to them, then don't waste an entire episode explaining their one single aspect of their character. My frustration was because I was watching each scene expecting to see one single reason why these people want to succeed that doesn't involve Kousei, while all it did was reinforce how obsessed they are with him. when you get a shot at the champ you have to take it ----------------
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I already like Eri more than osanamijimi or MPDG because even if Eri is still defined by Arima, she isn't an awful walking cliche. Also she hasn't been horribly manipulative towards Arima.
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Phobophilia posted:I already like Eri more than osanamijimi or MPDG because even if Eri is still defined by Arima, she isn't an awful walking cliche. Also she hasn't been horribly manipulative towards Arima. first off her name is Emi you dumbo. secondly Tsubaki is pretty cool ----------------
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emi is the best bits of both tsubaki and kaori and with none of their bad bits emi is superior
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Phobophilia posted:emi is the best bits of both tsubaki and kaori and with none of their bad bits 
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Rexides posted:Hey, I am perfectly OK with one-dimensional rivals. However, if you don't want to give any depth to them, then don't waste an entire episode explaining their one single aspect of their character. My frustration was because I was watching each scene expecting to see one single reason why these people want to succeed that doesn't involve Kousei, while all it did was reinforce how obsessed they are with him. Yeah, when the backstory of a new character is actually entirely about the main character you've done something wrong. Even as poorly written as it was I really found myself buying into the execution of Emi's performance. The real problem with this episode is not one, but two pianists talented enough to be nationally recognized in Japan have no motivation for music aside from Arima. If Emi's performance, or hell even the other rivals, had been fleshed out over an entire episode I might be being more forgiving. But two is just bonkers. Next thing you know he is going to walk into the house of a retired coach's house and inspire him to get back in the game! Ugh, if he loses the competition and something like that happens as a result I will be so angry.
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I fully expect him to lose and do so spectacularly badly that his 'rivals' declare to themselves that their respective victories in the contest don't even count as he's not on the top of his 'game' or whatever. Then maybe we get coach out of retirement, that sounds about right.. go full shonen with this thing.
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Amstrad posted:I fully expect him to lose and do so spectacularly badly that his 'rivals' declare to themselves that their respective victories in the contest don't even count as he's not on the top of his 'game' or whatever. Then maybe we get coach out of retirement, that sounds about right.. go full shonen with this thing. This is exactly what I think will happen. The coach will be a former student or mentor of his mom. Then the next concert he will  before playing.
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Where did either of you get the idea this story cares the slightest bit about shonen bullshit like who wins music contests?
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Boogaleeboo posted:Where did either of you get the idea this story cares the slightest bit about shonen bullshit like who wins music contests? It would be completely contrary to basically the whole message they've been sending up until now. Best case scenario would be Arima losing and then the other two showing up to gloat, but Arima's already left to go hang out with the gang or whatever.
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Boogaleeboo posted:Where did either of you get the idea this story cares the slightest bit about shonen bullshit like who wins music contests? You're right, how silly of me.  I really should take the story into consideration. Arima is going to play bad. The gang will Continue to get him to practice like they have been doing all along. The teacher will be Kaori. Insert jealousy/romance here. She will get him to play well at the next competition before she dies of cancer. Or maybe she'll be in the hospital for cancer, he plays, and she's cured for one month. Better?  Romance, music, and shonen burning spirit for everyone.
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Alpha Kenny Juan posted:You're right, how silly of me. But first, Pixie Dream Girl has to interrupt his paused terrible performance mid-meltdown by yelling generic words of shounen encouragement from the audience.
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Er, that was a happy episode. 
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Dick Spacious CPA posted:they showed just how messed up Kousei's mom was this episode right? In spades, yeah. They really delved into the hosed up ball of guilt, sadness, anger, and pain that is Arima Kousei's relationship to music.
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Dec 5, 2014 04:21
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I think that is the single moment in this entire anime that I have liked Kousei
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Dec 5, 2014 04:23
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Dick Spacious CPA treats the tables like Kousei's mom treats Kousei.
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Hey, at least they balanced out the well-intentioned but terribly ignorant jock friend's proclamation that "nah, he's fine, he's a man!" with a quick rebuttal of "no, that is meaningless, the only thing that matters is that he's a musician."
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There was nothing in this episode that you couldn't deduce from everything else that has happened so far, and I don't care because it was so well done. The cold open's mix of music with the storyline was great, and the huge bummer of the second half is played smartly and cathartically.
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Dec 6, 2014 02:29
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That whole background story was so well put together it triggered my family PTSD. That was surprising.
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The first episode or two of this show got me interested in looking at the manga. That happens from time to time, but the difference here is that after reading up through the manga I am actually interested in seeing how it gets animated, because I want the full experience. If this anime continues to adapt the story well from its source material, it is really going to sing by the time it's done. I think anime-only watchers are already experiencing the emotional potential.
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I think it's the first time I feel this way for either a real person or a fictional character, but good loving riddance Kousei's mom died. Holy poo poo.
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Well, I still like it. This show really knows how to drown all my senses at the same time. Did the true rival just appear?
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They sure do love Charlie Brown.
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Yawgmoft posted:They sure do love Charlie Brown. Who doesn't?
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That episode owned hard. The entire arc could have been illustrated with just the music, but everything else was also really cool. It went past just being about playing freely being better, into being kind of terrifying, and I loved watching people react to it.
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Sakurazuka posted:Who doesn't? 
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Dec 13, 2014 02:20
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Good reference.  I thought about this exact strip. The very first one if I remember correctly.
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Yep, the first one was perfect. Peanuts was always awesome, but early Peanuts was the best.
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Well damnit I'm going to cry when I think about Peanuts now.
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Man that animation at the start was goddamn great. I want a show done in that style.
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Admoon posted:The death flags in this show are so drat prominent I'm starting to Oh just wait, it'll get even more prominent
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