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skaboomizzy posted:Does anyone else feel like SMGs are completely worthless in this game? I can find or grind an elemental pistol or laser pretty easily and the SMGs seem to have terrible core damage stats. The Torrent and Hellfire beg to differ. If anything feels worthless in these game it's definitely Snipers. Hopefully the Baroness's sniping skill tree will make them somewhat useful.
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I like the Fatale Hyperion SMGs. As far as I can tell they always come with Crit Damage + 75% which is a nice bonus when it very quickly becomes pinpoint accurate.
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No weapon type is more useless than the assault rifle with a minor exception for Torgue rifles and those with spinigun barrels and even those tend to only be okay.
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Edward IV posted:No weapon type is more useless than the assault rifle with a minor exception for Torgue rifles and those with spinigun barrels and even those tend to only be okay. Yeah, assault rifles are just about the only weapons that really could use a buff I think. Even then though, there's the occasional AR you'll get that'll probably be better than what you currently have.
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Yeah, assault rifles are pretty universally terrible in Borderlands. I remember Roland's Deep Scorpio being reasonably good when I first got it in Borderlands 2, but even that was quickly outclassed. In the Pre-Sequel I literally never found a single AR that I liked.
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Dec 2, 2014 18:56
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Vladof Assault rifles are also pretty good.
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Dec 2, 2014 19:38
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Counterpoint: Nisha with a Vladof non-elemental spinigun 
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:Vladof and Torgue, yes. Throw in Maliwan and this statement is true across the range of weapons available, really. Gearbox put absolutely no thought whatsoever into the It's almost cynically funny that they took the time to rebrand Bandit as Scav and then did nothing to buff a pitifully weak (but cool looking) brand. e: Oh hey Rosie just got a hotfix that dropped over a 100% of it's continuous damage bonus. Neat. Father Wendigo fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Dec 2, 2014 |
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Genocyber posted:Vladof Assault rifles are also pretty good. Kinda? They're still overshadowed pretty badly by other weapon types. Even vladof pistols are massively better. A purple vladof AR is about on par with a green vladof pistol. Comparing a purple vladof pistol to a purple vladof AR, the pistol will have around 33% more damage, near identical accuracy, slightly quicker firing rate, larger magazine, and a quicker reload time by a second. All these examples are using all vladof parts, btw. Not even a purple vladof spinigun will come close to the dps of a purple vladof pistol. On top of that, ARs having lower critical hit damage than pistols also puts them at a considerable disadvantage. Like, vladof ARs are pretty alright and I'm always excited to find one that is better than the stuff I usually have since it's an excuse to use one, but they're still really not that good compared to some of the other, lesser rare weapons in the game.
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Yeah Vladof pistols can be ridiculous. Miniature machineguns.
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ProfessionalNinja posted:The quest to shoot the defector out of the moon cannon is loving stupid on TVHM. The beacon can take 2 maybe 3 shots before it is destroyed, and there is little to no way to keep the enemies from shooting it immediately. I think that they forgot to scale the health of the antenna according to your difficulty. It gets one shot on TVHM.
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Salt Fish posted:I think that they forgot to scale the health of the antenna according to your difficulty. It gets one shot on TVHM. You can do it in coop, camp the enemy spawnpoints. I did it with a friend on the second try.
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I ran into an issue with Gibbed's editor, both the BL2 and BL:TPS versions, running on the Windows 10 Technical Preview Build 9879. Saving any save files will create a corrupted file that neither the game nor the editor can read. Fortunately, the game will fall back to the backup save file. When I try to load the corrupted file in the editor, I get the following: "Failed to load save: LZO decompression failure (InputOverrun)" I ran the editor on a computer running Windows 7 and it didn't create a corrupt file so the issue is with Windows 10. I believe the editor worked fine before it updated to Build 9879 today.
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Oh hey, they actually listed all the stuff in the hotfix patch today -Gearbox Software posted:*Addressed an issue where some types of ice damage were being incorrectly resisted. Not too happy about Iwajira, grinding was the only way to get most of the weapons since half the bosses don't respawn anymore.
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Dec 3, 2014 02:50
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RIP Iwajira, hello Cheat engine.
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quote:*"Did you see that?!" - Limited the number of critical hit dialogue call-outs. This is probably the only good part of the patch because now I don't have to hear Nisha talk about how this is the happiest she's been since her mom died every 30 seconds.
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My friend and I finally finished our first playthrough last night. Kind of disappointing that the raid boss is just a harder version of the final boss. Also that Lilith is a dumb idiot and basically everything ever is her fault. Probably going to try out TVHM. Shouldn't be too bad since we Cheat Engine everything and basically have a full complement of legendary weapons but we ARE pretty bad at the game...
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They'll either try really hard (and fail) to make her sympathetic again or they'll make her the villain. I think she could make a good villain if she went full on psychotic eridium junkie.
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http://borderlandsthegame.com/index.php/news/borderlands-the-pre-sequel-ultimate-vault-hunter-upgrade-pack Sweet, more DLC! Additionally, all Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel players will receive a free patch next week that adds a third playthrough, Ultimate Vault Hunter mode, which is more difficult and adds the ability to reset campaign progress at any time, as well as enemies scaling up to your current level. Additional patch notes will be available closer to release at support.gearbox.com.
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watho posted:They'll either try really hard (and fail) to make her sympathetic again or they'll make her the villain. I think she could make a good villain if she went full on psychotic eridium junkie. Or they could just move on and have a new cast. I've enjoyed Pandora quite a bit, but I wouldn't mind a change of venue.
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Backhand posted:Or they could just move on and have a new cast. I've enjoyed Pandora quite a bit, but I wouldn't mind a change of venue. Do you really think that they are going to do that? Edit: wdarkk posted:I hope minibosses respond in UVHM. They probably won't but at least you can reset your playthrough for another try! 
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Tezzeract posted:http://borderlandsthegame.com/index.php/news/borderlands-the-pre-sequel-ultimate-vault-hunter-upgrade-pack I can't believe the comments on that site, which somehow manage to be worse than I expected. I expected people to be upset for whatever reason, but people are seriously mad that it's not free specifically because it's coming out near christmas.
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skaboomizzy posted:Does anyone else feel like SMGs are completely worthless in this game? I can find or grind an elemental pistol or laser pretty easily and the SMGs seem to have terrible core damage stats. Fridgia is the only SMG you will need. Used it from lvl 22 to 33.
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Tezzeract posted:This add-on pack features all-new narrative content including appearances from veteran Vault Hunters Gaige and Axton, who recently returned to the Crimson Raiders HQ. While they were gone on a mission, they missed out on the events of Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel and ask Athena to recount the story. Since they’re not the most patient badass Vault Hunters on Pandora, they just want an abbreviated version – only the juicy, violent stuff. Also, I really hope the 'New heads and skins' are not going to be the Commando Trap/Gynoid Agent/Bandita Badass/Sno-Knight heads that were already on-disc and droppable via gibbed.
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Father Wendigo posted:Also, I really hope the 'New heads and skins' are not going to be the Commando Trap/Gynoid Agent/Bandita Badass/Sno-Knight heads that were already on-disc and droppable via gibbed. What a redundant statement. You already know it's going to be that.
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Does anyone even like the arenas? They keep making them and they always end up being boring as poo poo except maybe for the one from the Tina DLC and the original Moxie one from the first game where you got alternate versions of past bosses.
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Jibo posted:Does anyone even like the arenas? They keep making them and they always end up being boring as poo poo except maybe for the one from the Tina DLC and the original Moxie one from the first game where you got alternate versions of past bosses. I love arenas.
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I thought Moxie was one of the worst ones they did, mostly because there's very little payoff for your hard work.
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Jibo posted:Does anyone even like the arenas? They keep making them and they always end up being boring as poo poo except maybe for the one from the Tina DLC and the original Moxie one from the first game where you got alternate versions of past bosses. I liked the robot and beast ones in Borderlands 2. I thought the bandit one was boring though.
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I honestly don't mind the arenas, but I wish they were more...arcade-ish. Like multiple mini-games, high scores, time trials, etc.
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Alien Rope Burn posted:I thought Moxie was one of the worst ones they did, mostly because there's very little payoff for your hard work. By far. The long arenas were an absolute slog to get through without failing, and they didn't give any experience, weapon proficiencies, or any loot worth a drat.
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I liked the Arenas in BL2... they were some of the more legitimately challenging fights in the game. Sure, there are optional bosses and whatnot, but the difficulty in the arena fights tend to be based on entirely 'fair' challenges without special gimmicks and usually before you've got arsenals full of max-level legendaries.
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Bugsy posted:By far. The long arenas were an absolute slog to get through without failing, and they didn't give any experience, weapon proficiencies, or any loot worth a drat. If you finished it, you got a whole extra skill point?  The only really worthwhile part was the bank; it was for completionists only.
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Just started playing the pre-sequal, is it just me or is lacking a dedicated sniper class like zero from BL2? The lawbringer seems to be closest, but doesn't look like she has anything in her tree to improve sniping.
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