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Do Not Resuscitate posted:99.9% of San Francisco is South of Ghiradelli. Yeah, I actually grew up in San Francisco. I should've been way more clear: I'm strongly leaning towards the G h appearing in sight of the exact dig location, like in that one goon picture. Like you said, reversing it to say "dig south of Ghirardelli" eliminates nothing. Wasnt the map of illinois or ohio reversed? What was the ultimate point of that? I still feel like this is different than that: Reversing a map makes it a little harder to recognize. Reversing a letter does nothing to increase the challenge. It has to mean something. -- Drunk Nerds fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Dec 4, 2014 |
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I'm in favor of the <hG> being intended as a link to Ghirardelli. It sure helps connect the verse to the image. Most folks assume it's reversed because that's the way it's presented when seen from the Russian Park area. I think there's a some subtle Fair Folk business going on with the reversal as a conveyance about a mirror's effect or reflection. This being the dragon of far Cathay, I think there's some significance in astrology. I'm not into astrology, but consulting Wikipedia I see there's a three connections between dragons and planets: Azure dragon with Jupiter, Yellow dragon with Saturn, and either a bird or some other kind of dragon with Mars. I've wondered if the <hG> is a hint for "Hg", the symbol for chemical element Mercury. Mercury represents the element Water in Chinese Astrology and is linked to the quality of Wisdom. I like that the Mercury connection might follow a common idea that a pearl is associated with wisdom. If Preiss wanted to role-play each Fair Folk's connection to a particular jewel, then he might let some lore shape his approach to each particular landscape, landmark, or historic site. Alcatraz, a prison, is the antithesis of Wisdom, since people might avoid incarceration for having the wisdom to avoid doing the wrong thing or thinking before they commit acts of injustice. I think Ghiradelli as a "sweet" representative might be thought of as a "temptation" and it's nearness to Alcatraz works to some extent to put us on some kind of trail in San Francisco. Whether that area is the end or the beginning, I think the trail is long and windy like the Oriental dragon. I suppose the idea of attributing something in San Francisco as being like the length of a dragon might bring us around to the Great Highway or the Golden Gate Bridge. If so, the question is where should the pearl be located? In the dragon's jaws? Near the beginning or end of the Great Highway or right as you get off either end of the Golden Gate?
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Dec 4, 2014 22:59
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Nocheez posted:Stop posting. No, don't listen to him, Urban Smurf. Your posts are the best part of this thread.
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Deteriorata posted:No, don't listen to him, Urban Smurf. Your posts are the best part of this thread. At least until xie or Never Been Banned digs and posts photos, anyway.
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Dec 4, 2014 23:13
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i found the treasure, guys
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I'm gonna start referring to schizophrenic train station vagrants as Urban Smurfs. They shuffle around between where groups of people congregate and rattle off weird poo poo until they're blue in the face
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I'm pretty sure Gh is Ghirardelli, because if it were Great highway, that would be a pretty slick move by preiss to confuse solvers. And if there's one thing we know, it's that Preiss wasn't that good at making puzzles.
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homullus posted:At least until xie or Never Been Banned digs and posts photos, anyway. They will never dig anything so Urban Smurf is safe.
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It's a good bet that something in the verse or image, maybe both, hints at a named road. Most people feeling confident they've figured out one of the correct cities are trying to identify what could be the road hint. Is there a need for multiple road hints, or should we expect just one or two at most? Remember, there's not a lot of lines of verse to be wasted on some lengthy approach to the treasure ground. For image 1, I like <hG> as a road hint. I really like the fingers pointing to the boxes on the sleeves as an indication of a 4 and 3, being either 43 or 34. The only lines I might guess as being road hints in verse 7 are "Sounds from the sky" or "near ace is high". I wonder if there's a riddle for Howard Hughes here. Sounds from the sky = planes. Near ace is high = King. Could Howard Hughes be considered a "King of planes"? Street names: Howard Court or North/South Hughes Lane in the Golden Gate National Recreation area might be worth considering.
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Do Not Resuscitate posted:You can't be for real. Forget it, he's rolling.
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Urban Smurf posted:It's a good bet that something in the verse or image, maybe both, hints at a named road. Most people feeling confident they've figured out one of the correct cities are trying to identify what could be the road hint. Is there a need for multiple road hints, or should we expect just one or two at most? Milwaukee seems to have a few, right? Didn't Chicago have one or two? i'm not sure Cleveland has any at all. Right now I'm obsessed with finding stuff in the verse that relates to stuff in its corresponding painting, as opposed to stuff in the verse that tells us where to go in a city. I figure that process of elimination might help with verses with parts that just make no sense as we know it. Alternately, "near ace is high" could be the joker. I.e. Preiss is the joker, and he was high when he wrote this verse. This is corroborated with "The Joker" by Steve Miller Band, where the chorus goes "I'm a joker, I'm a toker." Drunk Nerds fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Dec 5, 2014 |
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Drunk Nerds posted:Milwaukee seems to have a few, right? Didn't Chicago have one or two? i'm not sure Cleveland has any at all. That sphere with the triangle might be thought of as a hint for Solid Geometry, or a clue for someone in Cleveland to think "somewhere along a street named Euclid?"
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I'm working on basically the same project so let me know if you want help. There has to be a link in the Charleston and NYC puzzles. I guess NY's could simply be "twice as many steps as the hour" referring to the clock.
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Do Not Resuscitate posted:You can't be for real. Are those joke posts or something? I really haven't been following closely enough because I can't even tell the difference.
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Dec 5, 2014 02:41
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when are you clowns going to dig up my mug
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Snowy posted:Are those joke posts or something? I really haven't been following closely enough because I can't even tell the difference. I am having a little fun, so have a laugh. More so, I'm just exploring some ideas within the little context we have. Imagine the author had the sense to create a story for how each of the Fair Folk hid their jewel. The Greek Nymphs hid theirs in a Grecian Garden. The Celtic folk hid theirs in a field of trees, between a fence and fixture with allusions to electricity (power generation of a windmill, lightning rods on the giants hat, an electric rail train, light fixtures, "conductors" may drive a train, or "conductors" may direct the music of Mozart or Beethoven, etc.). I wonder...CELTIC compared to ELECTRIC do share all the same letters. Speculating on SF, I figure the dragon may be perceived as a giant flying beast, so why wouldn't Howard Hughes be a possibility?
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Urban Smurf posted:That sphere with the triangle might be thought of as a hint for Solid Geometry, or a clue for someone in Cleveland to think "somewhere along a street named Euclid?" I can definitely get down with that. xie posted:I'm working on basically the same project so let me know if you want help. There has to be a link in the Charleston and NYC puzzles. I guess NY's could simply be "twice as many steps as the hour" referring to the clock. Find the cask, first. Then everyone itt will want your help with everything, you'll be the thread king wiseman.
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Drunk Nerds posted:And if there's one thing we know, it's that Preiss wasn't that good at making puzzles. I kind of want to make my own treasure hunt with less lovely poo poo clues.
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The basic juggling pattern she uses in image 10 is called "windmill" or "side circles". Perhaps this observation has been made before, since -mill makes a good reference to Mil- for Milwaukee, but how about wind- ? Maybe this is also a strong hint for a place or road name that uses the word 'wind'. How about Windlake Ave. which runs through the historic Mitchell Street area?
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Urban Smurf posted:The basic juggling pattern she uses in image 10 is called "windmill" or "side circles". Perhaps this observation has been made before, since -mill makes a good reference to Mil- for Milwaukee, but how about wind- ? Maybe this is also a strong hint for a place or road name that uses the word 'wind'. How about Windlake Ave. which runs through the historic Mitchell Street area? Holy heck is this guy for real?
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Tony Homo posted:Holy heck is this guy for real? If he's a gimmick, then props for keeping it consistent. If he's for real, it's glorious.
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Nnep posted:Urban Smurf is going to be the one to dig up a casque. Mark my words. Circa 2013
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The DCR went dark on me which is super lame. I'll try one more time. I don't give a poo poo about Tony Homo but I hope you guys understand my hesitance. I have a great job here and while I don't think they'd fire me I really don't want to deal with legal stuff over the holidays. Also, I really would like to document this and do it above board. I feel really good about the solution and it'd suck to not be able to 'publish.'
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xie posted:The DCR went dark on me which is super lame. I'll try one more time. I don't give a poo poo about Tony Homo but I hope you guys understand my hesitance. I have a great job here and while I don't think they'd fire me I really don't want to deal with legal stuff over the holidays. Phew. I thought you may have broke your shoelace. What a relief.
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Urban Smurf posted:The basic juggling pattern she uses in image 10 is called "windmill" or "side circles". Perhaps this observation has been made before, since -mill makes a good reference to Mil- for Milwaukee, but how about wind- ? Maybe this is also a strong hint for a place or road name that uses the word 'wind'. How about Windlake Ave. which runs through the historic Mitchell Street area? I wish them images in your posts weren't broken so I could go back and look at the one where you took a streetview picture of a twisted tree trunk on the side of a road that vaguely looked like a picture from one specific angle. Problem being it was a tiny tree that likely wasn't even 15 years old.
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This thread will be here two years from now and xie will still be 2 weeks away from digging. You're loving pathetic dude.
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wa27, you must be talking about the tree near the Palace of the Legion if Honor. Nobody came forward to collect a hundred bucks for estimating the number of rings on a small stump next to that tree. (That deal expired, but maybe I can work something out with someone who might make a real effort to estimate those rings). I loaned my kid a chainsaw and some camping equipment on her road trip through SF but she didn't manage to get a cutting for me to test my theory. Lets be real here and stop assuming a tree is 15-30 years old when we really have no idea. The only verifiable info I've found about those cypress trees is that they were initially planted in the mid 1930's. There's a chance that the limbs I believe might be an image match were well established long before 1982. I'm still primarily focused on the idea that a bench was used to visually line up with the Golden Gate Bridge in the distance. I would consider that as a good way to narrow down the exact spot to put a shovel. Maybe those branches are part of that plan, but that was over 30 years ago. It could be those branches are too young to be considered. Maybe those benches are newer and if there were benches there 30 years ago, the might not have been the same shape. Lots of unknowns, so I'm at the limit of my urbansmurfing until I get down there myself or someone helps out.
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Plafop posted:This thread will be here two years from now and xie will still be 2 weeks away from digging. You're loving pathetic dude. Yeah let me just commit some crimes to dig up a piece of plaster brb. gently caress off. Tell you what, if you come to Boston I'll show you the spot and give you full credit, you just have to dig it up. I'll even help pay for the costs to get here and you can sleep on my couch. Standing offer for anyone who wants to face the automatic $1,000 fine for excavating without a permit on top of the fines for disobeying state park laws and a misdemeanor charge. I'll help get you here and show you the spot, you just have to assume all legal risks. xie fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Dec 5, 2014 |
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xie posted:Yeah let me just commit some crimes to dig up a piece of plaster brb. gently caress off. Tell you what, if you come to Boston I'll show you the spot and give you full credit, you just have to dig it up. I'll even help pay for the costs to get here and you can sleep on my couch.
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Plafop posted:So just admit none of you are ever going to dig then and close this thread. Put yer money where yer mouth is and do it then, Plafop. If people are willing to wait for a Ron Jeremy porno then they can wait for a cask too, dammit! I have more faith in Xie than Atomic Thumbs. Edit: I live in England and would totally take up his offer. Free trip to Boston, sweet. I'll just use my Home Counties accent and devilish British charm to confuse the gently caress out of the cops. Viruswithshoes fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Dec 5, 2014 |
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Plafop posted:Close this thread until someone is actually going to dig.  I keep up to date on this thread because I find the hunt interesting and that's about it but for some reason I had a vivid dream last night that I was present when 2 of the casks were dug up. One of them required breaking up some surface concrete. Hopefully it wasn't prophetic.
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Sten Freak posted:This thread is for discussing the treasure hunt. If you don't want to discuss it you can lmao, that's the closest anyone has ever gotten to actually doing anything though so congrats This thread is the most GB 1.0 thing in existence and it needs to be extinguished.
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wait do you actually care about that? that this thread isn't cool enough for the too cool for school gbs 2.0 attitude?
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I want this horrible thread closed and for you to cry.
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I cry myself to sleep every single night already thanks
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I want to see Xie dig and win, and I don't want to go to that awful Q4T site to read about it.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I want to see Xie dig and win, and I don't want to go to that awful Q4T site to read about it. Lol, if he tries to dig again he'll probably throw his back out reaching for the shovel.
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