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Drunkboxer posted:Yeah you guys aren't really selling this by talking about how they argue weather or not a movie's good because of how sexist/racist it is. That's usually like the dullest, most predictable, and ultimately frustrating way to talk about a film.  I like listening to these two people who have spent much of their professional and personal lives discussing movies. Though for me the podcast is about how Devin has really dumb opinions on things and Amy is just frustrated by it. He is really, really confident and smug about awful opinions.
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Mordecai Sanchez posted:Like I said, you couldn't pay me to listen to those two loud idiots have a fake argument about a concept (the American canon), especially when WolfPop debuted funny and charming Maltin on Movies the same day. Every sode Baron Vaughn surprises me by not getting a reference.
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Mr. Squishy posted:Every sode Baron Vaughn surprises me by not getting a reference. Haha "meet cute" what's that?
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I listened to the Jerry M. ep and the guy was like I think the movie is this and the girl was like I think the movie is this and then it was 45 minutes of them not engaging with each other except to say you're wrong.
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Mr. Squishy posted:Every sode Baron Vaughn surprises me by not getting a reference. In the most recent episode Leonard insists that the bus in Speed had to go exactly 50mph and couldn't go below OR above. Come on Len. Get your poo poo together.
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Mordecai Sanchez posted:Like I said, you couldn't pay me to listen to those two loud idiots have a fake argument about a concept (the American canon), especially when WolfPop debuted funny and charming Maltin on Movies the same day. I didn't really click with Maltin on Movies because he's a bit too genial and superficial with his film analysis. That's kind of his gimmick, but it's not for me.
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bobservo posted:I didn't really click with Maltin on Movies because he's a bit too genial and superficial with his film analysis. That's kind of his gimmick, but it's not for me. I won't argue against that. But the Canon reminds me of "Embrace Debate" programming you see on ESPN. Nothing but two people yelling for 10 minutes about a made-up topic like, "Who is the most 'Elite' quarterback in the NFL?"
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Mordecai Sanchez posted:I won't argue against that. But the Canon reminds me of "Embrace Debate" programming you see on ESPN. Nothing but two people yelling for 10 minutes about a made-up topic like, "Who is the most 'Elite' quarterback in the NFL?" Pretty much, like, I could get into a thing where they talk about the political and social messages of movies and their impacts on the culture around them and all that but they're super not doing that. Like said it's just the dude being all 'well here's what I think' and the girl being all 'here's what I think' and then the end. It's like, cool you just said two things I guess.
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Lugaloco posted:Poor Eric. So glad to have that goofy bastard make a reappearance.
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I can't decide if the Pauly Shore HH is one of the best episodes or one of the worst.
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Drunkboxer posted:Yeah you guys aren't really selling this by talking about how they argue weather or not a movie's good because of how sexist/racist it is. That's usually like the dullest, most predictable, and ultimately frustrating way to talk about a film. Well the point isn't about whether or not Temple of Doom is racist/sexist (Because it is) but it's if there's a larger point to that stuff. Ultimately it's aping too closely the serials that it was influenced by, but they were a product of their time. ToD doesn't have that excuse. If it undercut those ideas somehow then it would be different, but instead they're just front and centre. As to someone else's point. The most recent discussion on Star Wars do discuss the cultural landscape before and after those movies came out, what with the idea of cliffhanger storytelling being in vogue all of a sudden now. As much as I like Maltin, I don't think he's ever given a movie some real thought beyond the superficial. He's such a genial presence though that it doesn't really matter.
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DrVenkman posted:Well the point isn't about whether or not Temple of Doom is racist/sexist (Because it is) but it's if there's a larger point to that stuff. Ultimately it's aping too closely the serials that it was influenced by, but they were a product of their time. ToD doesn't have that excuse. If it undercut those ideas somehow then it would be different, but instead they're just front and centre. How is Maltin a film critic when he seems to stupid to argue his points.
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That's mean, but I could listen to anybody say "i like the movie".
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He's liked a lot of movies.
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As a film expert of 30+ years I can tell you: The movie's cast, how long it was, and Whether it's mostly gags or serious stuff.
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Nice. I myself can also say that but at the end I call a lady retarded, then later she also calls me retarded.
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seriously, Maltin just seems like he likes movies, not like he actually knows anything about film as art. he's a pop critic. he offers no insight and complains if a movie is over 90 minutes almost every time. i absolutely do not understand why he is held with such high esteem.
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Even if that is true, why would that be a bad thing?
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Fieryspork posted:seriously, Maltin just seems like he likes movies, not like he actually knows anything about film as art. he's a pop critic. he offers no insight and complains if a movie is over 90 minutes almost every time. i absolutely do not understand why he is held with such high esteem. I think that's okay though. I'm personally not that interested in exploring deep themes/symbolism/etc in movies, so I'm happy with a mostly superficial discussion of whether a film is compelling or entertaining and why.
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Fieryspork posted:i absolutely do not understand why he is held with such high esteem. Maltin did not find fame through deep insight or charismatic presentation. He got famous from putting out his movie guides which had reviews for drat near every movie in one handy reference. Those guides were essentially IMDB before the internet. I still have a bunch with duct tape bindings because they were so thoroughly leafed through. One side effect of being so prolific in writing movie reviews is that most of the reviews are superficial and generally just tell you if Maltin liked it or not. And he likes most movies (or else he wouldn't watch thousands of movies as a living). The reason why he still has esteem is that he's pretty much the last pre-Harry Knowles Aintitcool bullshit celebrity reviewer still alive from that 80's era when media outlets pushed celebrity reviewers as a thing. I guess other than Rex Reed but no one ever liked him.
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Tacier posted:I think that's okay though. I'm personally not that interested in exploring deep themes/symbolism/etc in movies, so I'm happy with a mostly superficial discussion of whether a film is compelling or entertaining and why. What do you get out of that other than affirmation?
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Hey here's that clip of Sean Clements sharing smooches with Judah Friedlander on 30 Rock as discussed on Hollywood Handbook. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g72RHscZn0 Riveting performance, played it so low key.
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:What do you get out of that other than affirmation? I guess I like it because I haven't seen most of the movies they talk about and it introduces me to new movies I might want to watch, as well as giving additional background information that I didn't know about films I already enjoy. I don't think the discussion has to be really academic to be worthwhile.
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Idk Maltin on Movies is just pleasant as heck and he and Baron are kinda superficial but it's fun to hear them talk about movies you might have forgotten about for an hour. Maltin is also upfront with liking most movies
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Reformed Pissboy posted:why the gently caress doesn't Gene Shalit have a podcast I only know of this person, and all movie critics, from The Critic, but I don't remember Maltin ever being on the show.
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they've officially broken quarantine, Conduit. We're all doomed.
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Politicalrancor posted:they've officially broken quarantine, Conduit. We're all doomed. SLASH AND BURN. SCORCHED EARTH. SALT THE SOIL. NOTHING MUST GROW HERE.
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Poopy Palpy posted:They could have the least popular shows on two different networks! But I could at least have an excuse to watch the challenge again
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Help Im Alive posted:Man the guest segment in today's Hollywood Handbook is painful Man Hayes and Sean really gave you the business today.
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Broheim posted:Man Hayes and Sean really gave you the business today. It was really painful to get mentioned on Hollywood Handbook
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I literally cackled on the train when I heard you and this forum mentioned. Heeeeey interns!
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