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Acute Grill
Dec 9, 2011

Chomp

Peanut President posted:

Hell yeah let's balkanize everything everywhere.

Enough independence movement maps have been posted that we all know Europe won't be happy until every man woman and child is their own sovereign nation, and all of their countries will be named Serbia.

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Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

ekuNNN posted:

This is actually my ideal, balkanize the world as much as people want to :anarchists:

Have the worst map in the world:


Kansas really should play up the "only state laid out by drunken surveyors" angle.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Gleri posted:

But this is just it. I'm not talking about Anglo areas like the Eastern Townships in the heart of what once was New France. I was specifically referencing Ungava or the contemporary Nord-du-Québec region, which was granted to Quebec in 1912 by the federal government of Canada and to a large extent does not share the history, language or culture of the southern portion of the province. If francophones in Quebec want to set up their own ethnic nationalist state then the law in Canada and democratic principles in general say they have every right to do that following a clear majority in a referendum. However, the same logic inescapably suggests that if the Inuit, Innu or Cree in Northern Quebec want to do likewise they should be free to do so too. And, I don't think Quebec should get a pass in terms of their own conquered lands just because they were conquered and historically oppressed by English Canada.
You did write in particular, implying they just had the best but not necessarily only justification for carving up Quebéc. (Plus whenever I've seen this argument presented, it has always been about Anglo Canadians.)

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

icantfindaname posted:

Looks like Real America to me

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ No that's just what Kansas' counties look like



nws that poo poo

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

icantfindaname posted:

Looks like Real America to me

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ No that's just what Kansas' counties look like



That's the thing, your version has the straight latitude/longitude line borders of Kansas, the one he posted had weirdly jutting bulges and crevices along the straight-line border areas, and many of the county boundaries don't line up right cuz they also go crooked for no reason in his.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Nintendo Kid posted:

That's the thing, your version has the straight latitude/longitude line borders of Kansas, the one he posted had weirdly jutting bulges and crevices along the straight-line border areas, and many of the county boundaries don't line up right cuz they also go crooked for no reason in his.

Mine captures the spirit of Kansas map makers better :colbert:

ekuNNN fucked around with this message at 08:30 on Dec 5, 2014

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

How Europe is greener now than 100 years ago.


Source article with a lot more maps and information.

There's multiple reasons for the changes. An important one is that because of industrialisation and because of agricultural advances, humans need less and less (farm)land. That's why there's more space for forests.

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
Britain doesn't seem to change much but they do have a ton of people packed into that island.

Linnaeus
Jan 2, 2013

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Carbon dioxide posted:

How Europe is greener now than 100 years ago.


Source article with a lot more maps and information.

There's multiple reasons for the changes. An important one is that because of industrialisation and because of agricultural advances, humans need less and less (farm)land. That's why there's more space for forests.

Also note the Netherlands reclaiming land from the sea.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

Mustang posted:

Britain doesn't seem to change much but they do have a ton of people packed into that island.

London is horrifying.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

a pipe smoking dog posted:

London is horrifying.

Well it is simultaneously cramped and lower density than it should be.

Soviet Commubot
Oct 22, 2008


Carbon dioxide posted:

How Europe is greener now than 100 years ago.


It's funny how western Brittany gets greener until the 1960s and then the forests start to shrink again. It's also interesting to see that the Brocéliande forest (Paimpont forest if you hate fun) doesn't really seem to change at all.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
Corsica's forest got chopped good after 1900 and haven't fully recovered.

Fell Fire
Jan 30, 2012



How do they know the future?

fuck off Batman
Oct 14, 2013

Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah!


Fell Fire posted:

How do they know the future?

By extrapolation from existing trends.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"
Transylvania has a really good jump at 1960 as you see the communists replacing pastures with crops.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Lycus posted:

Corsica's forest got chopped good after 1900 and haven't fully recovered.

The maquis is still pretty dense, at least. Corsica in 1900 is way more forested than the rest of Europe and still is afterwards.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
I don't know where this map is from or what it means but it sure is politically-loaded!

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

HorseRenoir posted:

I don't know where this map is from or what it means but it sure is politically-loaded!


Greater Poland's borders? Some bits seem to be missing however.

Ammat The Ankh
Sep 7, 2010

Now, attempt to defeat me!
And I shall become a living legend!

HorseRenoir posted:

I don't know where this map is from or what it means but it sure is politically-loaded!



RIP Japan and most of Africa.

Basil Hayden
Oct 9, 2012

1921!

Ammat The Ankh posted:

RIP Japan and most of Africa.
I'm much more puzzled by what is apparently a larger extra Mindanao off the northwest coast of Africa.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
And absolute nothing of note happens to Burkina Faso in this crazy alternate world apparently.

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



My favorite part is that Norway is totally fine and I think they took over Newfoundland as well.

skipThings
May 21, 2007

Tell me more about this
"Wireless fun-adaptor" you were speaking of.
Is that atlantis on the eastern African Coast ?

Modern Day Hercules
Apr 26, 2008

skipThings posted:

Is that atlantis on the eastern African Coast ?

We call it Madagascar in this universe, but sure.

fade5
May 31, 2012

by exmarx

HorseRenoir posted:

I don't know where this map is from or what it means but it sure is politically-loaded!


I like that the USA has taken over the entirely of Mexico and most of Canada east of the Ontario province, and yet we don't have control of the Northeastern US and Alaska.

The best part of US-controlled Canada is that in Nunavut, the US has control of Victoria Island and Baffin Island, but apparently we're just letting Greenland (or whoever controls them) have Ellesmere Island, Devon Island, and Melville Island. The US somehow can't take a set of islands that have a combined population of 400.

fade5 fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Dec 7, 2014

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

skipThings posted:

Is that atlantis on the eastern African Coast ?

Clearly Atlantis is off the coast of Iberia and Morocco.

skipThings
May 21, 2007

Tell me more about this
"Wireless fun-adaptor" you were speaking of.

Modern Day Hercules posted:

We call it Madagascar in this universe, but sure.

Look at me mistaking east for west :downs:

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate

A Buttery Pastry posted:

You did write in particular, implying they just had the best but not necessarily only justification for carving up Quebéc. (Plus whenever I've seen this argument presented, it has always been about Anglo Canadians.)

In 1995 the native bands in the North announced that if Quebec voted yes they would separate from Quebec and stay in Canada basically crippling the province. This of course lead to Lucin Bouchard saying Quebec could not be divided and a whole bunch of laughing by other people.

It also comes up in the case of Gateneau (where everyone works for the federal government) and Montreal mostly for the whole economic flight issue (bombardier had plans ready to move out of the province in a day if Quebec left Canada).

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Even the mere threat that Quebec would secede killed the city of Montreal and precipitated Toronto's rise as Canada's largest and wealthiest city due to capital flight.

VerdantSquire
Jul 1, 2014

HorseRenoir posted:

I don't know where this map is from or what it means but it sure is politically-loaded!



I love these super nationalist maps which show one country owning the entire world, except for of course a couple of tiny independent bits. I mean really, if you are going to have all of Europe and Asia, plus massive chunks of South America and Africa under your nation, why stop there?

Hell, I remember seeing a dumb video a while ago where some nationalist made a """Future Map""", where his country owned everything EXCEPT for loving Pakistan or something, because apparently they were the allies of his resident nation? What is even the point of nation-states if one "nation" virtually controls the entire world?

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
Poland controlling almost everything is less mysterious to me than all of southern African sinking into the ocean except for Angola, Swaziland and Madagascar.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ammat The Ankh
Sep 7, 2010

Now, attempt to defeat me!
And I shall become a living legend!

I'm glad.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
Instead of "the Venice of the North" we'll be getting "the Atlantis of the North", looks like.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
That's one way to get rid of Geert Wilders forever.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Lycus posted:

That's one way to get rid of Geert Wilders forever.

Nope, he's from Limburg, so in that bottom part that doesn't get flooded :(

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Is there anything currently located on that triangular bit in the center? It can be one big Kowloon Walled City-esque space for everybody to live on.

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BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012


Nice of the rising sea level to not bother Germany or Belgium.

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