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monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

CalvinandHobbes posted:

Furthermore I think the push towards cheaper prices is a misinterpretation of why the 520 was so successful. It wasn't just price, it was quality for the price. The 530 leveraged that model, not by attempting to improve quality but by slashing this in an effort to be even cheaper. I think the calculus there was wrong and hopefully the 535 is Microsoft recognizing this.

We'll see on the 535; Paul Therrott gave a pretty scathing review.

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Partycat
Oct 25, 2004

Per that , its still cheese ball. Plastics that are thin wont break but feel cheap, and that shite camera is just a topper. The rear on the 8XT is the same way and it doesn't feel like it would take up to constant opening - Paul mentions he has 3 phone lines so you gotta figure that is atypical and SIMs are set it and forget it. Other than the camera there isn't much to the review - probably because the Lumia line is straight forward.

JPrime
Jul 4, 2007

tales of derring-do, bad and good luck tales!
College Slice
Latest playlist fun.

I have 600+ songs in my current library. (I have another 1000 I'll import some day when the platform isn't terrible). I have 3 playlists I made in WMP. I set the Windows desktop app to copy "All Music" to my phone, which checks everything in all the available treeviews (playlists, genres, artists) and copy every thing over. All my music makes it fine. No playlists get copied to my phone. :bang:

Sri.Theo
Apr 16, 2008
Given the difference in processor would there be a noticable difference in using a 735 versus a 1020?

TopherCStone
Feb 27, 2013

I am very important and deserve your attention

nielsm posted:

I have two and have had three accounts (all Google hosted) set up on my phone. It has simply created a separate tile for each account automatically. They also show up as separate items on the "all apps" list.

D'oh. Didn't scroll down to the bottom of my tiles and see that. Cool.

Biggie Shorty
Oct 8, 2008
I'm starting to notice that whenever i start a podcast or song my lumia 822 is 100% unresponsive for anywhere from 5 to 20 seconds....

Edit: aaaand for some reason i have a shitload of duplicate songs...great...

Biggie Shorty fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Dec 8, 2014

Krinos
Nov 5, 2003

monster on a stick posted:

We'll see on the 535; Paul Therrott gave a pretty scathing review.

I'm not really sure what he's going on about there, he's comparing it directly to the 735, which sells for about twice the price. He also compared the cut price 530 to handsets multiple times its price. I would have thought he'd understand the whole deal about price, positioning and providing a handset as a direct feature phone replacement but apparently not.

I mean I understand that the 530 is a POS but let's not expect miracles from a sub-$50 phone.

Factor Mystic
Mar 20, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction
Progressssssss

beuges
Jul 4, 2005
fluffy bunny butterfly broomstick
Here's a possibly retarded question... is it possible to use a phone as a Bluetooth handsfree kit for another phone? I'm going to upgrade in the next few weeks and then keep my 820 in the car as a GPS. I have a windscreen mount for it already, and sometimes use it with speakerphone on which works reasonably well... so now I'm thinking that once I upgrade, it could be cool to use the 820 on the dash as a handsfree for the new phone.

Happy_Misanthrope
Aug 3, 2007

"I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."

Biggie Shorty posted:


Edit: aaaand for some reason i have a shitload of duplicate songs...great...
:stare: Holy gently caress they still haven't fixed this. It's literally been years.

Careful Drums
Oct 30, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Biggie Shorty posted:

I'm starting to notice that whenever i start a podcast or song my lumia 822 is 100% unresponsive for anywhere from 5 to 20 seconds....

Edit: aaaand for some reason i have a shitload of duplicate songs...great...

same problem :/

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost
In case anyone wants the true release of Awful Forums Reader, with a working EF database (as God intended :colbert:), head over to my Onedrive and download the beta debug build. It also fixes the change page issue, and some other odds and ends.

You have to deploy it directly to your unlocked phone (so only those of you in the Developer program can use it). You can get the tools to do so here

Again, once I can get EF working correctly in release mode, I'll push a new build. For now, this is the best I can do.

Biggie Shorty
Oct 8, 2008
Does anyone here use iTunes with the WP desktop app to sync music to their windows phone-because I just tried it and I got a bunch of errors and blank playlists on my phone :(

beuges
Jul 4, 2005
fluffy bunny butterfly broomstick
Has anyone else notice excessive battery drain with the latest OS update from late last week (8.10.14219.341)? Before updating, my battery on my Lumia 820 would usually last from morning till night before getting the low battery warning... now I need to charge around mid-afternoon/early evening. Battery Saver shows biggest user being WhatsApp with 14% but I've never checked prior to the update to be able to tell if this is higher than normal or not (most of it is foreground). The battery drain is definitely from when I did the OS update though. Is this a known/common issue?

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE

beuges posted:

Has anyone else notice excessive battery drain with the latest OS update from late last week (8.10.14219.341)? Before updating, my battery on my Lumia 820 would usually last from morning till night before getting the low battery warning... now I need to charge around mid-afternoon/early evening. Battery Saver shows biggest user being WhatsApp with 14% but I've never checked prior to the update to be able to tell if this is higher than normal or not (most of it is foreground). The battery drain is definitely from when I did the OS update though. Is this a known/common issue?

My battery is usually at 30-40% after 48 hours on my 930.

LentThem
Aug 31, 2004

90% Retractible

beuges posted:

Has anyone else notice excessive battery drain with the latest OS update from late last week (8.10.14219.341)? Before updating, my battery on my Lumia 820 would usually last from morning till night before getting the low battery warning... now I need to charge around mid-afternoon/early evening. Battery Saver shows biggest user being WhatsApp with 14% but I've never checked prior to the update to be able to tell if this is higher than normal or not (most of it is foreground). The battery drain is definitely from when I did the OS update though. Is this a known/common issue?

The battery drain on my 925 has been disgusting since I updated to 8.1 in April, and the information in battery saver doesn't tell me anything useful

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



LentThem posted:

The battery drain on my 925 has been disgusting since I updated to 8.1 in April, and the information in battery saver doesn't tell me anything useful

Since I installed the dev preview updates my battery life is better on my 925. Well, everything is better overall with the adition of proper folder tiles and other little things they added.

Factor Mystic
Mar 20, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction
Battery life is actually the one thing I don't have a problem with on my phone. I do charge it nightly, but I don't notice any drain problems running the 8.1 dev preview.

Biggie Shorty
Oct 8, 2008
Trip Report: After struggling with my lumia 822 trying to get it to properly recognize music on my sd card it just stopped working with the sd card all together. It would see the card but if I tried to copy anything onto the card from my computer via the phone the process would freeze and the phone wouldn't recognize the card unless I restarted it.

So I bit the bullet and installed 8.1, and now everything works. I manage my music via media monkey. Instead of making playlists I use the album and album artist tags to sort music. I'm afraid to try and use playlists or to use the windows phone desktop app.

Naffer
Oct 26, 2004

Not a good chemist

LentThem posted:

The battery drain on my 925 has been disgusting since I updated to 8.1 in April, and the information in battery saver doesn't tell me anything useful

I turned off Cortana and this helped quite a bit.

Jewmanji
Dec 28, 2003
Has Verizon said anything about 8.1 and the Lumia 928? This is well-past the point of being ridiculous.

Also:

http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/11/7377021/ive-given-up-on-windows-phone

Things have gotten really dire. Microsoft needs to throw users a bone pretty quickly to staunch the flow. It's insane that their roadmap between now and next fall pretty much is 1 flagship phone, probably 1 or 2 budgets phones, and a slow roll-out of WP10 that probably won't land on major US carriers until Q4 2015.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
As an Android user, I downloaded Here Maps yesterday (I like Google Maps, but I can't refuse a free offline solution) and have been contemplating switching from LibreOffice to Microsoft's Office Online for on-the-go editing thanks to those new apps. Thanks, Microsoft?

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE
It looks like the delay in flagship releases might be due to this being cancelled:

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/12/what-might-have-been-photos-leak-of-cancelled-windows-phone-flagship/

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008


Yeah, that's been commonly speculated for a while (and I'm pretty sure it's the truth). Man though those pictures gave me phone envy. Want the phone. Why didn't they just release it and fix the 3D touch poo poo later :(

G-III
Mar 4, 2001

loquacius posted:

Yeah, that's been commonly speculated for a while (and I'm pretty sure it's the truth). Man though those pictures gave me phone envy. Want the phone. Why didn't they just release it and fix the 3D touch poo poo later :(

I love that it's commonly pictured near the iPhone 6. "Hey, here's a phone we were developing so that customers could feel like they had a device that could match what the competition put out, but we didn't because..."

LifeSizePotato
Mar 3, 2005


No matter how awesome that phone could have been, the press would have eaten it alive for being too thick and big.

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!
Ditch the hump and make a thicker flat phone with matching battery capacity.

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

My main windows phone complaint though is that the HERE apps just updated with a new color, forcing me to rethink my beautifully crafted start screen >:|

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

My main windows phone complaint though is that the HERE apps just updated with a new color, forcing me to rethink my beautifully crafted start screen >:|

Mine are transparent now. This required a rearrangement.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
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http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-announces-windows-10-press-event-for-january-21st

This will be live streamed. It may be interesting. :v:

AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord
My two year win phone experiment has come to an end. Contract was up so I jumped from a HTC 8X to a Note 4. JFC Android is so much better in so many goddamn ways--mostly just the little things, like a text cursor I don't have to loving fight with, easy notifications that are rock solid, etc.. And holy poo poo, having apps again!

Good riddance, Microsoft, I really wanted to like your phones, but you really hosed this one up good.

Mr Funkface
Dec 21, 2009

Do Not Resuscitate posted:

My two year win phone experiment has come to an end. Contract was up so I jumped from a HTC 8X to a Note 4. JFC Android is so much better in so many goddamn ways--mostly just the little things, like a text cursor I don't have to loving fight with, easy notifications that are rock solid, etc.. And holy poo poo, having apps again!

Good riddance, Microsoft, I really wanted to like your phones, but you really hosed this one up good.

I thought the cursor was hosed in the early previews but it looks like the gimping has remained. It was fine before why MS why? Also: applies to almost everything else on Windows Phone.

The Verge article posted earlier is as spot on as is pretty much all the sentiment here. Who's in for a double or nothing on an MS rebound in Q4 2015? (I'm not).

Factor Mystic
Mar 20, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Let me guess.

New desktop OS version, so... focus on Universal Apps and how they can be in windows and not just snapped. Highlight is on integration, so big talk about how Universal Apps can target multiple platforms with buy once use everywhere, with warmed over demos about apps can share state across platforms (which was demoed in the Windows 8 runup, iirc). Integration benefits if you sign in with your Microsoft account, of course. Someone might use the phrase "same kernel", but it is supposed to be a consumer event so I may be wrong on that count. Even though the event is about Windows 10, there will be time spent on Windows phones, since they're also part of the broad Windows family. There will be a slide showing better battery life. Probably a few slides with OEM partner logos. And don't forget the slide with a lot of big name apps that have promised to deliver Windows apps, but are actually built by contractors and will only have 1 update per year, lagging them behind the iOS versions in features and UX. Someone will probably make a fuzzy statement about the upgradability of current gen devices (a statement that will later be clarified to exclude more phones than it includes). All the tech journalists in the audience will be reporting from macbook airs. The Verge will post a story like "New Windows 10 Looks Great, But Is It Enough To Keep Microsoft Relevant In A Mobile World?" and the final phrase will be "only time will tell". The word "productivity" is the free space on the buzzword bingo card.

Mr Funkface
Dec 21, 2009

Factor Mystic posted:

Someone will probably make a fuzzy statement about XXXXXXXXX

trussstt ussssssss

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost

Factor Mystic posted:

Let me guess.

New desktop OS version, so... focus on Universal Apps and how they can be in windows and not just snapped. Highlight is on integration, so big talk about how Universal Apps can target multiple platforms with buy once use everywhere, with warmed over demos about apps can share state across platforms (which was demoed in the Windows 8 runup, iirc). Integration benefits if you sign in with your Microsoft account, of course. Someone might use the phrase "same kernel", but it is supposed to be a consumer event so I may be wrong on that count. Even though the event is about Windows 10, there will be time spent on Windows phones, since they're also part of the broad Windows family. There will be a slide showing better battery life. Probably a few slides with OEM partner logos. And don't forget the slide with a lot of big name apps that have promised to deliver Windows apps, but are actually built by contractors and will only have 1 update per year, lagging them behind the iOS versions in features and UX. Someone will probably make a fuzzy statement about the upgradability of current gen devices (a statement that will later be clarified to exclude more phones than it includes). All the tech journalists in the audience will be reporting from macbook airs. The Verge will post a story like "New Windows 10 Looks Great, But Is It Enough To Keep Microsoft Relevant In A Mobile World?" and the final phrase will be "only time will tell". The word "productivity" is the free space on the buzzword bingo card.

You forgot Cortana integration.

Mr Funkface
Dec 21, 2009
"we're going to integrate these withered limbs to this still beating torso phone and laptop apps are the same yeah!!"

Mr Funkface fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Dec 13, 2014

Mecca-Benghazi
Mar 31, 2012


I think I prefer the 8.1 cursor to the 8.0 cursor. I think I'm the reason Microsoft is treating its older users so badly. :smith:

Mr Funkface
Dec 21, 2009

Mecca-Benghazi posted:

I think I prefer the 8.1 cursor to the 8.0 cursor. I think I'm the reason Microsoft is treating its older users so badly. :smith:

you like the cursor directly under your thumb? are you why xbox music maze of looping menu clusterfuckery? i hate you.

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

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GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost

Mr Funkface posted:

you like the cursor directly under your thumb? are you why xbox music maze of looping menu clusterfuckery? i hate you.

Once you set the cursor and start moving it, you can keep moving it. You don't have to keep your thumb on top of it.

Worked with my 1020 anyway :shrug:

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repeating
Nov 14, 2005

Do Not Resuscitate posted:

My two year win phone experiment has come to an end. Contract was up so I jumped from a HTC 8X to a Note 4. JFC Android is so much better in so many goddamn ways--mostly just the little things, like a text cursor I don't have to loving fight with, easy notifications that are rock solid, etc.. And holy poo poo, having apps again!

Good riddance, Microsoft, I really wanted to like your phones, but you really hosed this one up good.

Windows Phone has literally 0 apps. If you totally ignore reality.

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