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Raffles posted:i don't think cm punk will do well at the sport of mixed martial arts tbh he has enough money, contacts and free time that he can train intensely for six months with a good-quality team and be good enough to beat a hand-picked opponent who's basically a tomato can but not so much that it's obvious to people who don't watch MMA regularly. afterwards Chael Sonnen will come in the octagon, give him his purple belt, and they'll do a pose together and go to a strip club if that isn't doing well, I don't know what is
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FullLeatherJacket posted:tbh he has enough money, contacts and free time that he can train intensely for six months with a good-quality team and be good enough to beat a hand-picked opponent who's basically a tomato can but not so much that it's obvious to people who don't watch MMA regularly. afterwards Chael Sonnen will come in the octagon, give him his purple belt, and they'll do a pose together and go to a strip club
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Why do people use the term "Tomato can" to refer to people who are bad at fighting?
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Greetings mma posters. Why would nick Diaz be a good match for punk. Thank you
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:Why do people use the term "Tomato can" to refer to people who are bad at fighting? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato_can_%28sports_idiom%29 NickRoweFillea posted:Greetings mma posters. Why would nick Diaz be a good match for punk. Thank you nick diaz is stockton personified, hilarious, and would box the living poo poo out of punk and make his face look even more retarded all the while talking poo poo about him in the cage and capping it off with a stockton slap to a chorus of 209 bitch 209
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:Why do people use the term "Tomato can" to refer to people who are bad at fighting? you hit them and red stuff comes out. thats it.
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Meat Recital posted:you hit them and red stuff comes out. thats it. lol
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People usually just say "can" nowadays.
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I've been watching fights for five years and never thought about the origins of the word 'can'. The more you know...
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I think its really cool the UFC announced universal Reebok uniforms for a more professional look the same week they signed 0-0 professional actor Chick Magnet
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FullLeatherJacket posted:tbh he has enough money, contacts and free time that he can train intensely for six months I know just what CM Punk needs
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Dexters Secret posted:Punk is an incredibly driven individual and I think he has a decent chance of defeating another UFC rookie. But even if he doesn't, it's not gonna be a big deal, other than his next fight won't be as much of a draw. He's doing this for fun anyway, and is a writer for Marvel now. Most UFC rookies have extensive ametuer and semi-pro records unless they were super elite in another combat sport like wrestling or BJJ.
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Yuriy posted:i genuinely don't think he can do a full training camp without injury Batista was worse off when he started and he passed.
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Hhhduqkmhn anxiety is wowiow a young age and up the stairs
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This just makes me mad that we didn't get enough Punk-Bryan matches.
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I'm enjoying that guy who is impotently posting 3 pages worth of content bitching about the news.
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I'm 100% in Punk's corner when it came to him leaving WWE given how shady the company is, but personally I think he's a huge dickhead. So what I'm saying is either way this is a win for me
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JohnsonsJohnson posted:Most UFC rookies have extensive ametuer and semi-pro records unless they were super elite in another combat sport like wrestling or BJJ. I think this is what is making me not have any faith in Punk being anything but a name draw. In wrestling there are lots of dudes getting plucked from nothing to enter the bottom level/training stuff and work out, but in UFC even the rando dudes who make even the super fans go 'who?' have a strong background in some level of 'he beat up people pretty good'. Punk is literally coming from 'some experience' and a sport where the entire point is to make things LOOK bad but be safe to a thing where had injury is a goal. Even if he wasn't getting broken down I'd not have high hopes for him, but coming off so many head injuries and other things he's just gonna get fed nothing or someone who legitimately is a title contender in whatever his weight class is is going to beat the poo poo out of him. Like, to be clear I don't think he's going to enter the ring and someone's just gonna punch his loving jaw off, but I don't think he's going to get very far unless White's goal is to just put "AND CM PUNK" on the posters as much as he can.
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Well considering that outside of Anderson Silva no UFC fighter has even close to half of Punk's twitter followers he is completely just signed to be "and featuring CM Punk"
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:punk owns even if he'll probably lose Yeah. He's never gonna be a champ and he's gonna make some money and fight some fights and do something he's wanted to do.  in my book.
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Anyone rooting for Punk to lose is going to have a while to wait, because he's going to be matched up with 0-0 scrubs by a promotion that has every incentive to see him win. Unlike most 0-0 guys Punk has the time and money to train full time with a full range of top-flight coaches, which means that even given the handicaps of age, pro-wrestling-induced wear-and-tear, and (presumably) lack of PEDs, he's going to have an enormous advantage over the first (at bare minimum) two or three opponents he faces, and that's going to take us through the first year or two of his fight career. He's never going to be a champion or even (probably) in the top 30 of whatever division he's in, but he'll pop some buyrates beating up scrubs, fight one or two bad-but-recognizable-names, and then retire with a fatter wallet and quite possibly a commentary or Fox analysis job.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I think this is what is making me not have any faith in Punk being anything but a name draw. In wrestling there are lots of dudes getting plucked from nothing to enter the bottom level/training stuff and work out, but in UFC even the rando dudes who make even the super fans go 'who?' have a strong background in some level of 'he beat up people pretty good'. Punk is literally coming from 'some experience' and a sport where the entire point is to make things LOOK bad but be safe to a thing where had injury is a goal. Even if he wasn't getting broken down I'd not have high hopes for him, but coming off so many head injuries and other things he's just gonna get fed nothing or someone who legitimately is a title contender in whatever his weight class is is going to beat the poo poo out of him. considering brock lesnar's debut drew ridiculously large numbers despite him having not been in a WWE ring for three years, having the charisma of a bag of apples, and being booed out of his final match, I don't think Dana White will really give a poo poo as long as they can promote having a guy who got 1m+ views for a two-hour podcast doing Ryback impressions and bitching about how he didn't like his job
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CM Punk's first fight is gonna do big business don't worry about that
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Brock Lesnar was incredibly charismatic.
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Dangersim posted:Brock Lesnar was incredibly charismatic.
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Have you never heard the coors light speech
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Dangersim posted:Have you never heard the coors light speech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl_JNTCNH2k
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fatherdog posted:Anyone rooting for Punk to lose is going to have a while to wait, because he's going to be matched up with 0-0 scrubs by a promotion that has every incentive to see him win. Unlike most 0-0 guys Punk has the time and money to train full time with a full range of top-flight coaches, which means that even given the handicaps of age, pro-wrestling-induced wear-and-tear, and (presumably) lack of PEDs, he's going to have an enormous advantage over the first (at bare minimum) two or three opponents he faces, and that's going to take us through the first year or two of his fight career. Not only this but Punk has an advantage in that performing on a big stage in some capacity is second nature to him. The 0-0 fresh faces they pluck out of some fight gym with amateur experience fighting in front of their parents will be overwhelmed by the lights, media, action. They will make this work... for a while at least. Everyone involved is a professional.
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FullLeatherJacket posted:considering brock lesnar's debut drew ridiculously large numbers despite him having not been in a WWE ring for three years, having the charisma of a bag of apples, and being booed out of his final match, I don't think Dana White will really give a poo poo as long as they can promote having a guy who got 1m+ views for a two-hour podcast doing Ryback impressions and bitching about how he didn't like his job I don't think anyone's doubting that any match with Punk in it is going to sell like hotcakes. I just think it's a little lovely that after spending how many years bitching about being a commodity he's signing on to literally just be a name on a poster.
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Brock Lesnar is a human moose. I don't care who you are, if you hear that a human moose is gonna get in a ring and punch a dude you're gonna want to see it.
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brock and gsp tapped into that incredible lucrative white supremacist demographic in a way that few other people really can
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Sadly we'll never see another Lesnar level marketing strategy. "Hey you gonna buy the UFC fight coming up?" "Uh, yea, the shaved bear that walks among us as a man is gonna be in it."
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david carmichael posted:brock and gsp tapped into that incredible lucrative white supremacist demographic in a way that few other people really can Actually according to mma.tv racists were very disappointed in Brock for marrying Sable (used to gently caress a half-black) and training with Pat Barry Also I assume that white supremacists hate the french and therefore didn't like GSP, but that's purely speculation on my part
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