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Totalizator
Nov 9, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!
General question, I'm looking into buying a Wii game to play on the Wii U (Xenoblade Chronicles) and I understand I also need to buy a separate controller for Wii games. Is the Wiimote plus enough or do I need to look for a Classic controller as well?

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majormonotone
Jan 25, 2013

Wiimote and Nunchuck is all you need for Xenoblade.

Looper
Mar 1, 2012

Narcissus1916 posted:

Sunshine has infuriated me more in four hours than all of the time I threw in to 100% Mario 64. And the camera is really and truly terrible, to the point where this is the one Mario game I wouldn't want my nephew to play until he gets past the controller throwing stage of adolescence. Plus, I'm not sure exactly why but the controls don't feel anywhere near as "tight" as 64 or Galaxy.

And yet, there's still an elegance to the world design that completely captivates. Some of the shines are devilishy designed in the best of ways. So I'll keep going.

Sunshine isn't a bad game, but it definitely has the most problems of any Mario game. It also gave us the "secrets" stages so I'm alright with it overall (pachinko sucks though)

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Totalizator posted:

General question, I'm looking into buying a Wii game to play on the Wii U (Xenoblade Chronicles) and I understand I also need to buy a separate controller for Wii games. Is the Wiimote plus enough or do I need to look for a Classic controller as well?

Wiimote plus and nunchuck is all you need for Xenoblade. You can play it with a classic controller too, but unless you want one for other reasons you don't need one.

FairGame
Jul 24, 2001

Der Kommander

K-Mart has wonderful 101 in stores on clearance for 8 bucks, which is absurd. Sadly they only had one copy left.

noirstronaut
Aug 10, 2012

by Cowcaster

FairGame posted:

K-Mart has wonderful 101 in stores on clearance for 8 bucks, which is absurd. Sadly they only had one copy left.

If I go tomorrow and it's not 8 bucks, I'm gonna gently caress you up.

Austrian mook
Feb 24, 2013

by Shine
Super Mario Sunshine is cool because people complain that they want more collectables that mean something in a 3D mario game (since lives are worthless) but when they did just that people flipped out and complained that finding them all was hard even though I don't think that was the intention. Like, 100% completing the game just gets you a picture after the credits. YOu don't have to collect all the blue coins if you don't want to.

King Chicken
Apr 23, 2009

FairGame posted:

K-Mart has wonderful 101 in stores on clearance for 8 bucks, which is absurd. Sadly they only had one copy left.


Steal of a price. I still prefer that game over Bayonetta 2.

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax

Austrian mook posted:

Super Mario Sunshine is cool because people complain that they want more collectables that mean something in a 3D mario game (since lives are worthless) but when they did just that people flipped out and complained that finding them all was hard even though I don't think that was the intention. Like, 100% completing the game just gets you a picture after the credits. YOu don't have to collect all the blue coins if you don't want to.

The problem with Blue coins is some of them only appear in a few of the seven iterations of each stage, or maybe even just one. You can look at your totals to see what stages coins are still hidden in, but there's no way to tell which of the seven stars you need to pick.

In any game with collectibles it needs to be clear the general area to go to search for the ones you haven't got yet.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


King Crab posted:

I'm interested in picking up a Wii U, if I grabbed the basic model and then got an external hard drive then that beats the big plus the deluxe model has over it, right?

Probably, I haven't seen the basic model anywhere in the wild though. The Skylanders bundle is supposed to have the basic set presuming that exists, but even then you probably won't be saving much over just grabbing the SM3DW bundle (since you should be buying that game anyway) and at best it'll probably still cost more than the Deluxe refurbs from Nintendo.

So, you should probably just hold out for more refurbs to come into stock if you can.

Looper
Mar 1, 2012

Austrian mook posted:

Super Mario Sunshine is cool because people complain that they want more collectables that mean something in a 3D mario game (since lives are worthless) but when they did just that people flipped out and complained that finding them all was hard even though I don't think that was the intention. Like, 100% completing the game just gets you a picture after the credits. YOu don't have to collect all the blue coins if you don't want to.

That's not the problem with blue coins, see green stars

Ultigonio
Oct 26, 2012

Well now.
I did it.

I've 100% completed Captain Toad in roughly 12 hours. All I have left to do is the time trials. Completing that last level was so satisfying.

Ultigonio fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Dec 8, 2014

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Ultigonio posted:

I did it.

I've 100% completed Captain Toad in roughly 12 hours. All I have left to do is the time trials. Completing that last level was so satisfying.

I'm still stuck on the maze. :negative: I've yet to even do as well as I did on that earlier attempt.

Ultigonio
Oct 26, 2012

Well now.
Hint: Tap the poo poo out of enemies.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
Trying to guide the football player on the one train level is a pain in the rear end :negative:

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Ultigonio posted:

Hint: Tap the poo poo out of enemies.

:stare: of course

E: But my hand gets in the way I'm too clumsy for this

Deceptive Thinker
Oct 5, 2005

I'll rip out your optics!

Macaluso posted:

Trying to guide the football player on the one train level is a pain in the rear end :negative:

After a ton of tries, I did it successfully, finished the level, and didn't get the check mark - I must have a blob around a corner somewhere...

aherdofpenguins
Mar 18, 2006

Iwata talked about removing, or doing something with region protection a while ago. Has there been any more info on that since he mentioned it?

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
How in the holy hell do you get the second gem in Ghost Gallery Gambit :psyduck:

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Macaluso posted:

How in the holy hell do you get the second gem in Ghost Gallery Gambit :psyduck:

This one is extremely tricky. You may notice that blocks start falling that lead to the gem if you stick around, but there seems to be no way to get to them. What you need to do is run further ahead and wait for more blocks to fall. They won't fall if you stay put because they'd land on your head. So you need them to show up and then you can run back and get the gem.

I've got 1000 more coins to get in the maze, taking a breather before jumping back in. Here goes nothing.

E: DEAD INSTANTLY TO FIREBALLS

ONE YEAR LATER
Apr 13, 2004

Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!
Oven Wrangler

aherdofpenguins posted:

Iwata talked about removing, or doing something with region protection a while ago. Has there been any more info on that since he mentioned it?

They said region locking was something they do for the retailer's sake and if it makes more sense to remove it in the future they will look into doing so. That's all, no promise or plan, just a hypothetical response to a question.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Regy Rusty posted:

This one is extremely tricky. You may notice that blocks start falling that lead to the gem if you stick around, but there seems to be no way to get to them. What you need to do is run further ahead and wait for more blocks to fall. They won't fall if you stay put because they'd land on your head. So you need them to show up and then you can run back and get the gem.

I've got 1000 more coins to get in the maze, taking a breather before jumping back in. Here goes nothing.

E: DEAD INSTANTLY TO FIREBALLS

Thanks. I died several more times before I finally got it :v:

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Good news for Nintendo, profits expected to triple compared to last year.

http://businessweek.com/news/2014-12-07/nintendo-heads-for-best-holiday-in-years-as-profit-seen-t

aherdofpenguins
Mar 18, 2006

ONE YEAR LATER posted:

They said region locking was something they do for the retailer's sake and if it makes more sense to remove it in the future they will look into doing so. That's all, no promise or plan, just a hypothetical response to a question.

Daaaaamn because being able to play US games on my jpn Wii U would be pretty sick right about now :(

Narcissus1916
Apr 29, 2013

If you're feeling bad about Captain Toad kicking your rear end, check this out from Sunshine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhP08HvrmBo

Took me about five tries before I went, "Yep, not spending an entire night on one poorly designed hellacious challenge." To make it even funnier, it takes a solid five minutes of just... waiting for two boats to come your way to even get to the entrance.

I have no idea how I ever managed to 100% sunshine as a kid, that is madness distilled to a single level.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem

Narcissus1916 posted:

If you're feeling bad about Captain Toad kicking your rear end, check this out from Sunshine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhP08HvrmBo

Took me about five tries before I went, "Yep, not spending an entire night on one poorly designed hellacious challenge." To make it even funnier, it takes a solid five minutes of just... waiting for two boats to come your way to even get to the entrance.

I have no idea how I ever managed to 100% sunshine as a kid, that is madness distilled to a single level.

Oh God somehow I knew the EXACT stage you were talking about even before the part about the boats.

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
You can just walk down the side.

enojy
Sep 11, 2001

bass rattle
stars out
the sky

Speaking of challenges, I'm just now getting into some of the optional levels in Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze. Just the right amount of bullshit in these. What the gently caress does the "K" stand for?

noirstronaut
Aug 10, 2012

by Cowcaster

enojy posted:

Speaking of challenges, I'm just now getting into some of the optional levels in Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze. Just the right amount of bullshit in these. What the gently caress does the "K" stand for?

Kantbeatthelevelbecauseyousuck

Austrian mook
Feb 24, 2013

by Shine

greatn posted:

You can just walk down the side.

That's worse than just dying and re-starting.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines

Al-Saqr posted:

Good news for Nintendo, profits expected to triple compared to last year.

http://businessweek.com/news/2014-12-07/nintendo-heads-for-best-holiday-in-years-as-profit-seen-t

I read the article and I don't understand what it means for their profit to triple. Given their performance last year, wouldn't... wouldn't that mean they're going to be losing thrice as much?

Austrian mook
Feb 24, 2013

by Shine

Looper posted:

That's not the problem with blue coins, see green stars

Green stars serve a different purpose though? I'm just disapointed because I think that blue coins are a really great idea that had a couple kinks that needed to be worked out but they never got the chance to because of the reception it got.

Champeenship
Oct 9, 2012
Nintendo employee says that the amiibos aren't discontinued, so disregard all that I guess.

noirstronaut
Aug 10, 2012

by Cowcaster

Argue posted:

I read the article and I don't understand what it means for their profit to triple. Given their performance last year, wouldn't... wouldn't that mean they're going to be losing thrice as much?

That's not how money works. That's not how money works at all.

Cialis Railman
Apr 20, 2007

Argue posted:

I read the article and I don't understand what it means for their profit to triple. Given their performance last year, wouldn't... wouldn't that mean they're going to be losing thrice as much?

Uh

You understand what "profits" are, right? It's how much money a company takes in. I don't either, apparently. :downs:

Cialis Railman fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Dec 8, 2014

Strange Quark
Oct 15, 2012

I Failed At Anime 2022

Argue posted:

I read the article and I don't understand what it means for their profit to triple. Given their performance last year, wouldn't... wouldn't that mean they're going to be losing thrice as much?

They probably just mixed up income with profit. I can't say I expect much from an article that cites VGChartz for some of its numbers.

noirstronaut
Aug 10, 2012

by Cowcaster
I'm sticking with my "that's not how money works" post.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
Well just completed book 3, and now all I have left is bonus content, as well as a few challenges I was like "gently caress it I'll come back to it later". The game is so good.

In typical Nintendo style, the last several levels REALLY ramp up in difficulty almost out of nowhere.

edit: anyone who says this game doesn't have enough content for even a $40 game is a lying piece of poo poo garbage

Macaluso fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Dec 8, 2014

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


does the mario world bundle come with a code or disk

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XtraSmiley
Oct 4, 2002

Awesome! posted:

does the mario world bundle come with a code or disk

Two full disks with cases. MW and Nintendo Land for me.

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