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SynthOrange posted:I was in such an awful funk on Friday night that I couldnt sleep at all, and kept wondering if things would be improved by Scott Morrison Anidav posted:What's to say a bunch of lions don't post on Auspol? They would be the pride of Australia if they did
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Freudian Slip posted:They would be the pride of Australia if they did 
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Dec 8, 2014 04:02
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Dec 8, 2014 04:18
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I like how one of the questions in the quiz on the website apparently suggests that uni students are going to be rich anyway so gently caress em.
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Dec 8, 2014 04:34
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First Bolt, now Jones. Alan Jones berates Greg Hunt for endangering Tony Abbott's seat over harbour development Radio announcer Alan Jones has suggested Tony Abbott could lose his seat because of the public outcry over a local aged care redevelopment and has accused the environment minister, Greg Hunt, of listening to “Labor hacks” in approving it. In an angry 30-minute interview on Sydney’s 2GB, Jones repeatedly chastised Hunt, accusing him of “telling lies to my listeners” and of accepting advice from Labor appointees on the Sydney Harbour Federation Trust about the proposal to build a privately owned, for-profit aged care home overlooking Sydney harbour at Middle Head. “They are cheering and clapping their hands, they are saying ‘We’ve got Abbott on something else’ … [former prime minister Julia] Gillard appointed these people and they are laughing at you … they are rubbing their hands because Tony Abbott is in trouble with his own people and he may go the way John Howard went in Bennelong,” Jones said. (Howard lost the Sydney seat of Bennelong at the 2007 election). “You will doom Tony Abbott if you start building an aged care facility there, I am telling you now,” he told Hunt, despite the fact that the prime minister holds the seat of Warringah by a very healthy 15.3% margin. “The prime minister is on the rack.” In a six-minute, 30-second introduction to the interview, Jones said the Coalition was “on the nose” and this was not going to improve unless they started to listen. “I am just telling them what the public will do if they don’t change … this is government completely out of control telling the people to get stuffed … and this is in Tony Abbott’s electorate and he has been hopelessly and dishonestly advised … the commonwealth consent authority was signed off by Greg Hunt, every aspect of this is a disgrace, and the minister Greg Hunt is on the line,” Jones said as he concluded his introductory monologue. Hunt attempted to explain that his approval had been subject to the views of the rural fire service, and tried to give some history of the decision-making process, but was repeatedly interrupted by the broadcaster, who accused Hunt of lying and not knowing what he was talking about. A Fairfax Ipsos poll published on Monday showed Abbott’s personal standing falling to levels equal to the lowest suffered by Gillard, and the Coalition at an election-losing 48% to Labor’s 52% in two-party-preferred terms. But in a series of interviews Abbott continued to deny he had broken election promises on health and education and insisted his government had the “fundamentals” right. He shrugged off leadership speculation by comparing himself with Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan. “The Howard government, the Thatcher government, the Reagan government all had rough patches in the polls, and I’m not the first leader to be subject to a bit of speculation,” he told Seven’s Sunrise. Abbott is facing a revolt in Liberal branches in his electorate over the plan to redevelop the former defence site. It has also been criticised by one of his sisters who lives in the area, Jane Vincent. The locals say the development is another broken promise by Abbott, who said in a speech in April 2012: “Largely at my instigation, the Howard government committed more than $115m to the Sydney Harbour Federation Trust to preserve the natural and built heritage of places like North Head and Middle Head.” Jones had previously rounded on Hunt’s parliamentary secretary Simon Birmingham over the development, saying it was Abbott’s “Julia Gillard moment”. http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/dec/08/alan-jones-berates-tony-abbott-and-greg-hunt-over-sydney-harbour-development
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Dec 8, 2014 05:06
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Anidav posted:Every time we pass Cairns hospital in a shuttle bus the drivers sing praise about how great the Queensland Government is. Did Newman promise anything to the Cairns hospital or do these bus drivers have to do it by contract? Does this poo poo actually happen man? You seem to live in a land of lefty dystopia (Queensland lol) where every day you have encounter and some ridiculous anecdote to an absolute T.
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Dec 8, 2014 05:12
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Adnar posted:Does this poo poo actually happen man? Doesn't he just live in Australia then?
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Dec 8, 2014 05:21
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Brown Paper Bag posted:I like how one of the questions in the quiz on the website apparently suggests that uni students are going to be rich anyway so gently caress em. Beats suggesting higher taxes on higher incomes I guess.
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Dec 8, 2014 05:31
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quote:“But I think that the public are also focusing on performance and this is a government which has fundamentally kept faith when it comes to the big commitments we made to the Australian people.
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Dec 8, 2014 05:36
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froglet posted:Coworkers take on it. "Well, now the dalek has gone we will no longer have to hear her bleat on about the NDIS". Jesus christ
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Dec 8, 2014 05:40
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Anyone else getting the feeling that Abbott is being put out there to at the moment to look ineffective so that he can be replaced? He hasn't come off very well at all lately but he keeps going out there and reminding people why they hate him. Also, what's the thread think about: "What should the Prime Minister do with his proposed paid parental leave scheme? A) Stick to the original plan that he took to the election B) Alter the proposal to include means testing and further funding for childcare C) Ditch the proposed scheme altogether D) Other" And finally, what's happening with the NDIS?
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Dec 8, 2014 05:45
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Amoeba102 posted:Anyone else getting the feeling that Abbott is being put out there to at the moment to look ineffective so that he can be replaced? He hasn't come off very well at all lately but he keeps going out there and reminding people why they hate him. D: Kill himself. I think that might be what they're doing, but they're not doing it very well. The only minister who hasn't made a fool of themself recently is literally
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Dec 8, 2014 05:47
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Amoeba102 posted:Anyone else getting the feeling that Abbott is being put out there to at the moment to look ineffective so that he can be replaced? He hasn't come off very well at all lately but he keeps going out there and reminding people why they hate him. This question is complicated. "What should the Prime Minister do with PPL to maximise chance at election?" -> Keep his proposal untouched, and implement further childcare funding "What should the Prime Minister do with PPL to maximise the benefit to Australia?" -> Scrap it, move all the funding across to Childcare and do something about affordability and availability.
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Dec 8, 2014 05:48
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I think the question is about what outcome you want from the policy. How does keeping it maximise his chances at election? Is it the policy itself, or is it the narrative of weakness/ineffective? I would have said B, personally.
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Dec 8, 2014 05:53
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I honestly don't see how scrapping it would hurt him more than what he has already lied about. At this point you either know tony abbott is a lying shitfuck or you will deny that to your dying breath, and no amount of new evidence can change that.
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Dec 8, 2014 06:00
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Amoeba102 posted:I think the question is about what outcome you want from the policy. How does keeping it maximise his chances at election? Is it the policy itself, or is it the narrative of weakness/ineffective? Agreed.
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Dec 8, 2014 06:03
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Personally I like the idea of both. State funded / subsidised childcare AND paid parental leave. The more we can remove economic impediments to having children, the better off we are long term.
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Dec 8, 2014 06:05
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Les Affaires posted:Personally I like the idea of both. State funded / subsidised childcare AND paid parental leave. The more we can remove economic impediments to having children, the better off we are long term. I believe that this should be the case for the first two children. I don't think we should encourage people to have more children than replacement numbers. This is purely from an environmental position. I love the idea of large families (I come from a family of four brothers) but I don't believe the Earth can sustain continued population growth.
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Dec 8, 2014 06:12
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Les Affaires posted:Personally I like the idea of both. State funded / subsidised childcare AND paid parental leave. The more we can remove economic impediments to having children, the better off we are long term. That collides with the Liberal view that only their people should benefit, because more neoliberals is a good thing but all poor people produce are lefties. It's a common thread in their policy platform.
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Dec 8, 2014 06:13
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Freudian Slip posted:I believe that this should be the case for the first two children. I don't think we should encourage people to have more children than replacement numbers. This is purely from an environmental position. I love the idea of large families (I come from a family of four brothers) but I don't believe the Earth can sustain continued population growth. Not funding third children would cause a lot more harm than good. Few people in this country want to have big families anyway, so it's unlikely to become a serious issue.
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Dec 8, 2014 06:19
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There's a lot more than just economics that informs the choice of parents to only have one or two kids, but we can probably leave the argument about fetishising the female body, motherhood and commodities to a different thread.
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Dec 8, 2014 06:23
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Adnar posted:Does this poo poo actually happen man? Yes. The diving company sent me a CD-ROM with all my underwater photos and they also included photos of the reef that didn't include me. These beautiful photos of a living reef appear to be from... 2003  Reef in 2003:  Reef now:  It almost makes my weekend in Cairns kinda saddening. Besides the Reef dying, the rainforests were rad.
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Dec 8, 2014 06:28
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Anidav posted:Yes. The diving company sent me a CD-ROM with all my underwater photos and they also included photos of the reef that didn't include me. There needs to be a growing 
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Dec 8, 2014 06:32
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Anidav posted:Yes. The diving company sent me a CD-ROM with all my underwater photos and they also included photos of the reef that didn't include me. Don't worry, those can be clear cut or burnt down, or just die from climate change.
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Amoeba102 posted:I think the question is about what outcome you want from the policy. How does keeping it maximise his chances at election? Is it the policy itself, or is it the narrative of weakness/ineffective? Les Affaires posted:Personally I like the idea of both. State funded / subsidised childcare AND paid parental leave. The more we can remove economic impediments to having children, the better off we are long term.
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Dec 8, 2014 06:34
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Deal with it even morer
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Dec 8, 2014 06:56
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 So much salt is in these last two weeks
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Amoeba102 posted:Anyone else getting the feeling that Abbott is being put out there to at the moment to look ineffective so that he can be replaced? He hasn't come off very well at all lately but he keeps going out there and reminding people why they hate him. quote:Also, what's the thread think about :
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Dec 8, 2014 07:10
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Anidav posted:Yes. The diving company sent me a CD-ROM with all my underwater photos and they also included photos of the reef that didn't include me. quote:The Member for Capricornia has told WIN News she's 'fair dinkum' about protecting the Great Barrier Reef.  SAVED!
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Dec 8, 2014 07:13
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Unless Abbott gets abducted by a Chinese submarine while surfing I can't see him being replaced before the elections. It would make them look as shambolic as the Labor party was in 2010; people may not like Abbott but I really doubt they think factional infighting is how he should be removed. Especially if it ends up with someone as divisive as Morrison. You'd have thought Labor would have been smarter than to allow for leadership speculation to plague them, but you know how it went.
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Dec 8, 2014 07:18
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Anidav posted:
Yeah, don't read the comments. Rowan Dean posted:Apparently, a majority of us think Bill Shorten would be a better prime minister of our country than Tony Abbott. Wait, that's not in the comments. That's in the article.
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Dec 8, 2014 07:19
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The media speculation about Leadership can be traced back to Peter Costello where there was heaps of fanfiction in both Newspapers and Liberal backbenchers. After the Howard Government fell and Rudd turned out to be a weirdo, the revived interest has been with us ever since. EDIT: You missed the most bitter part of the article quote:With Labor back in charge of our money – fuelled by the barely functioning intelligent life form known as the Greens and those guardians of greed the unions – our economy would nosedive into Euro-style stagnation and high unemployment faster than a Euro bullet train. Already in Victoria, only a week after the Libs lost, union thugs are shutting down businesses. Anidav fucked around with this message at 07:25 on Dec 8, 2014 |
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Dec 8, 2014 07:21
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Amoeba102 posted:You'd have thought Labor would have been smarter than to allow for leadership speculation to plague them, but you know how it went.
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Dec 8, 2014 07:26
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Anidav posted:The media speculation about Leadership can be traced back to Peter Costello where there was heaps of fanfiction in both Newspapers and Liberal backbenchers. After the Howard Government fell and Rudd turned out to be a weirdo, the revived interest has been with us ever since. Yep, union thugs are shutting down businesses like crazy down here  The Murdoch media is really getting desperate
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Dec 8, 2014 07:50
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Is there a comprehensive list of businesses shut down by Union thugs since last week?
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Dec 8, 2014 07:55
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We voted Abbott in so it's pretty hard to argue against us being the dumbest nation on earth
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Dec 8, 2014 07:56
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Anidav posted:Is there a comprehensive list of businesses shut down by Union thugs since last week? The CFMEU shut down an Aldi construction site which tipped off a bunch of libtards on facebook.
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Dec 8, 2014 08:06
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RIP ALDI
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Gough Suppressant posted:We voted Abbott in so it's pretty hard to argue against us being the dumbest nation on earth You just don't get it, if we have free university education we'll end up an unproductive economic failure like Germany.
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Shanakin posted:You have nothing to fear my friend, the reef will be protected! I wonder if "improving water quality" will include putting fluoride back in the drinking water. :qld:
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