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A_Raving_Loon posted:Europe: In case you couldn't tell from the province distribution, nation set up, and what I presume to be the base tax values here, the board game itself was made by a french company. This is probably what resulted in a very particular legacy carryover involving a blue nation in western europe that we are all highly aware of  .
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A_Raving_Loon posted:Europe: I like that Moscow is apparently migrating south since 1492. And so is everything else...
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Dec 7, 2014 22:30
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Cyprus, the Peloponnese, Sinai, and Jutland all look like turds.
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Dec 7, 2014 22:41
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VerdantSquire posted:In case you couldn't tell from the province distribution, nation set up, and what I presume to be the base tax values here, the board game itself was made by a french company. This is probably what resulted in a very particular legacy carryover involving a blue nation in western europe that we are all highly aware of Yeah, the pink numbers on each province are tax value. Ship icons are each a trade zone, marked with the bonus income for monopolizing them. Each one with a country name on it is their home zone, where get some competitive advantages. The storm clouds are hazard ratings for naval attrition. A fleet gets infinite movespeed, able to go anywhere in they like within the span of a turn, but the harder you push them the more of your boats will be eaten by bad weather and unexpected rocks.
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Dec 7, 2014 22:51
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A_Raving_Loon posted:Europe: On one hand, converting this into a computer game is a pretty sound move given that it doesn't look like it's possible to play that by hand and retain your sanity. On the other hand, I am kinda amazed that somebody actually found it, played through it and presumably enjoyed it enough that he thought it'd be a good idea to invest the time, effort and money needed to turn it into a computer game. Anybody have any idea what the original board game designers think of EU4?
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Dec 7, 2014 22:53
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Tomn posted:Anybody have any idea what the original board game designers think of EU4? I believe the game was designed by Philippe Thibaut, who's one of the guys behind the AGEOD games. Yeah, I imagine there must be some mixed feelings at having your boardgame bought, turned into a successful computer game, merging (being bought?) by the people who adapted it, and then being cut free by them.
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Dec 7, 2014 22:58
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VerdantSquire posted:In case you couldn't tell from the province distribution, nation set up, and what I presume to be the base tax values here, the board game itself was made by a french company. This is probably what resulted in a very particular legacy carryover involving a blue nation in western europe that we are all highly aware of France being the richest country in Europe makes sense. For the EU period, France gained a lot from having a much richer core than Spain or England. What doesn't make sense is how Northern Italy isn't right up there. Northern Italy was really rich and productive, this is why France and Spain fought over it so much.
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Dec 7, 2014 23:02
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That just reminded me how ridiculous pre-nerf France was. I think they had at least 2 major "reduce base tax and manpower" passes in EU3, from what I recall the numbers on the board game there were ported straight to EU and didn't change from EU1 to 3 until patches / expansions happened.
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Disco Infiva posted:I like that Moscow is apparently migrating south since 1492. And so is everything else... And Kazan was once west of Nizhny Novgorod. And not on the Volga.
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Dec 8, 2014 00:25
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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VerdantSquire posted:In case you couldn't tell from the province distribution, nation set up, and what I presume to be the base tax values here, the board game itself was made by a french company. This is probably what resulted in a very particular legacy carryover involving a blue nation in western europe that we are all highly aware of Nah, the big pain was always Austria until about midway through EU3's development cycle.
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Beamed posted:Nah, the big pain was always Austria until about midway through EU3's development cycle. BWB was big in EU2, and then EU3 came with Austria being red But yeah, France got buffed in In Nomine, and it's like that ever since.
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Dec 8, 2014 01:04
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France really was a juggernaut for most of the last millennium, so that's actually accurate. It was only by the nineteenth century that they started getting cut down to size, mostly due to demographic stagnation.
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Dec 8, 2014 01:08
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A_Raving_Loon posted:Europe:
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Phlegmish posted:France really was a juggernaut for most of the last millennium, so that's actually accurate. It was only by the nineteenth century that they started getting cut down to size, mostly due to demographic stagnation. France was on a collision course with mediocrity in the 18th century, but was rescued by the Revolution.
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Dec 8, 2014 01:45
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Phlegmish posted:France really was a juggernaut for most of the last millennium, so that's actually accurate. It was only by the nineteenth century that they started getting cut down to size, mostly due to demographic stagnation. The problem with France in EU is that the nations around her aren't very good at banding together to stave off French aggression. It gets better if Austria inherits the Netherlands, but the AI has no idea how to use all the mountainous Austrian provinces to win battles.
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Dec 8, 2014 02:17
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Dibujante posted:France was on a collision course with mediocrity in the 18th century, but was rescued by the Revolution. Is this really the case? Near as I can tell, all it would have taken was one great leader to rejuvenate and reform the government - the Revolution provided that, just rather..violently. It was still huge culturally and economically. Just look at Voltaire.
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Drone posted:There used to be forum Balance of Power games run fairly regularly in TG, but I haven't seen one in awhile. It was pretty much exactly this. The folks who did the first Balance of Power games were part of a community I was on before I joined Something Awful. Way long time ago. I honestly didn't like that game very much though. I have run a number of games on Something Awful in GBS though that are similar, but they have more structure. The last one I did was History of the World: http://retributiongames.com/history/ http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3580849 The first version of HotW I did on GBS: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3123362 I also did a couple of games called Divided We Stand, also on GBS/TG but they were about assuming control of a group of individuals following World War 3 and trying to rebuild society from the ashes.
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Beamed posted:Is this really the case? Near as I can tell, all it would have taken was one great leader to rejuvenate and reform the government - the Revolution provided that, just rather..violently. It was still huge culturally and economically. Just look at Voltaire. PittTheElder posted:The problem with France in EU is that the nations around her aren't very good at banding together to stave off French aggression. It gets better if Austria inherits the Netherlands, but the AI has no idea how to use all the mountainous Austrian provinces to win battles.
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Dec 8, 2014 06:58
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Drone posted:There used to be forum Balance of Power games run fairly regularly in TG, but I haven't seen one in awhile. It was pretty much exactly this. Most of the BOP GMs I know just got tired of running the game, I think.
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Beamed posted:Is this really the case? Near as I can tell, all it would have taken was one great leader to rejuvenate and reform the government - the Revolution provided that, just rather..violently. It was still huge culturally and economically. Just look at Voltaire. Leading up to the Revolution, dozens of great men all tried very hard to overcome France's inertia and failed. Ultimately, France's established potentates (king, aristocracy, clergy) were all unwilling/unable to reform, even when they wanted to. By 1789, France was broke, starving, and in internal disarray, but that was just a market correction that put the price of French stock where it had really been for a while.
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Phlegmish posted:France really was a juggernaut for most of the last millennium, so that's actually accurate. It was only by the nineteenth century that they started getting cut down to size, mostly due to demographic stagnation. To quote Napoleon: "You cannot stop me, I spend 30000 men a month." The revolutionary wars were an incredibly bloody affair. quote:By 1789, France was broke France, interestingly enough, has pretty much always spent tax revenue two years in advance since Louis XIV.
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Merry Christmas season, Paradox goons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ntpw4PJ0QM I've always had a soft spot for Riu Riu Chiu because it sounds almost exactly like Falalan. A (very) few notes off, but it sounds so close to a copy.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:I've been slowly working on a Cold War turn based strategy game. It's heavily inspired by the ancient game Balance of Power. I posted about it back in the Spring but couldn't work on it for a long time, but I've gotten back to it recently and have made a ton of progress. I wish you had PMs available, this looks really promising and I'd be interested to hear more about your plans. Edit: Whoops, I overlooked a later post where he explains his plans in a lot more depth. Vivian Darkbloom fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Dec 13, 2014 |
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Thread's been kind of dead this week. So....those Nazis, right? I mean aside from the whole Holocaust....pretty cool? Right guys? Guys?
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Dec 13, 2014 10:54
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Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:Thread's been kind of dead this week. That's some weak trolling, bro.
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If Hitler had invested in lots and lots of Ju-87s instead of Tiger tanks, Germany would have won rather handily.
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Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:Thread's been kind of dead this week. It's called Developing Reich, not Third Reich!
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gradenko_2000 posted:If Hitler had invested in lots and lots of Ju-87s instead of Tiger tanks, Germany would have won rather handily. No, Hitler should've built only inf. Mans posted:It's called Developing Reich, not Third Reich! 
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Mans posted:It's called Developing Reich, not Third Reich! Close the thread, we're not coming back from this. VerdantSquire fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Dec 13, 2014 |
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Dec 13, 2014 15:35
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Mans posted:It's called Developing Reich, not Third Reich! Suddenly, that bloody silly derail is redeemed and made good in the eyes of man.
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Mans posted:It's called Developing Reich, not Third Reich!  Also where's my goddamn HoI4 update!!!!!!
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Mans posted:It's called Developing Reich, not Third Reich!  Oh wait got it, 
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Dec 13, 2014 16:53
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Tomn posted:Suddenly, that bloody silly derail is redeemed and made good in the eyes of man.
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Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:I feel dumb and don't get the joke, please send help There was a derail over using third world to describe countries outside the west. Goons did not react well, went straight up Paradox forums on it, and I assume he is making fun of that.
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CharlestheHammer posted:There was a derail over using third world to describe countries outside the west. Right just remembered that. I swear I'm cool and funny usually, gang
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CharlestheHammer posted:There was a derail over using third world to describe countries outside the west. You know... What really triggers me is using "The West" to describe first world nations. I live in Brazil, it's located in the west but no one is thinking about Brazil when they use that term. What a loving bullshit terminology is that? Discuss.... for the next 5 pages.
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Kanthulhu posted:You know... What really triggers me is using "The West" to describe first world nations. I live in Brazil, it's located in the west but no one is thinking about Brazil when they use that term. What a loving bullshit terminology is that? Any terminology that is intentionally vague and self important is going to be bullshit, no need to discuss.
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I prefer "normal countries" vs "lovely countries" myself.
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Kanthulhu posted:You know... What really triggers me is using "The West" to describe first world nations. I live in Brazil, it's located in the west but no one is thinking about Brazil when they use that term. What a loving bullshit terminology is that? BRIC is highly suggestive of a primitive and, frankly, fat nation. Also bricks are used to smash windows, so it objectively paints these countries as violent. It's disgusting.
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