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JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Vitamin P posted:

see how easy it is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WsOzrnBTHA

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team overhead smash
Sep 2, 2006

Team-Forest-Tree-Dog:
Smashing your way into our hearts one skylight at a time

JFairfax posted:

lunch is for wimps

More meals is a sign of privilege. We should not try any find nobility in our oppressed position but rather seize control of mealtimes so that we can freely choose how many we wish to have.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


I like a good lunch, sometimes the girl at the works canteen "forgets" to take my money

So that's your theory disproven right there

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


A Black Mark For Retarded Posting

Quote-Unquote posted:

Why is it a packed lunch but it's a school dinner?! Broken Britain right there.
Dinner when it's hot, lunch when it's cold, dead easy

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund
It seems that Oglaf is stepping into the whole "new pornography laws" debate thing:

Really Really not safe for work.

:nws:http://oglaf.com/:nws:

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

Josef bugman posted:

It seems that Oglaf is stepping into the whole "new pornography laws" debate thing:

Really Really not safe for work.

:nws:http://oglaf.com/:nws:

Our dreams of a live action Oglaf home DVD are ruined forever. :(

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

I made it to 81 in the Media Guardian's Power 100, beating the likes of Jeremy Paxman, Steven Moffat, Gary Lineker, Piers Morgan, and Kim Kardashian. Fitting really, as they all at least make 81 times the money I do.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/ng-interactive/2014/dec/08/mediaguardian-100-2014-interactive-guide

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Brown Moses posted:

I made it to 81 in the Media Guardian's Power 100, beating the likes of Jeremy Paxman, Steven Moffat, Gary Lineker, Piers Morgan, and Kim Kardashian. Fitting really, as they all at least make 81 times the money I do.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/ng-interactive/2014/dec/08/mediaguardian-100-2014-interactive-guide

Congrats :woop:

(yay, something awful is relevant again :v:)

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
So Labour tried to cover up that the chair of their London youth branch accepted a caution for assaulting his girlfriend.

quote:

I am aware that there may be messages posted on social media regarding Dan Young’s recent suspension. I need to remind everyone that posting comments about internal discipline matters is itself a matter that could lead the author(s) becoming subject to a separate discipline investigation.

This could also apply to members who re-distribute, retweet or otherwise widen the original circulation.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

TinTower posted:

So Labour tried to cover up that the chair of their London youth branch accepted a caution for assaulting his girlfriend.

:lol:

Is it internal if he had to pay a caution?

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Brown Moses posted:

I made it to 81 in the Media Guardian's Power 100, beating the likes of Jeremy Paxman, Steven Moffat, Gary Lineker, Piers Morgan, and Kim Kardashian. Fitting really, as they all at least make 81 times the money I do.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/ng-interactive/2014/dec/08/mediaguardian-100-2014-interactive-guide

Higher than Guido Fawkes, too (as is some Youtuber I've literally never heard of). That's got to sting the man who claims to be the most important political journalist in the UK just because a couple of SPADs use him as their bagman.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

blowfish posted:

:lol:

Is it internal if he had to pay a caution?

Nope. He has a criminal record.

What makes this worse is that he's a serving councillor, so it's definitely in the public interest.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

TinTower posted:

Nope. He has a criminal record.

What makes this worse is that he's a serving councillor, so it's definitely in the public interest.

I guess he can always cover up his corruption with more corruption :v:

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy
UK Megathread, from Hell's heart I stab at thee

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-30376446

quote:

Bus companies are not required by law to force parents with buggies to make way for wheelchair users in designated bays on vehicles, senior judges ruled.

First Bus appealed against a court ruling, won by a disabled man from West Yorkshire, that the firm's wheelchair policy was discriminatory.

Doug Paulley, 36, was denied access to a First bus to Leeds when a woman with a pushchair refused to move.

The Court of Appeal overturned a Leeds County Court judgement in his favour.

(they should still do it though :v:)

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

blowfish posted:

Congrats :woop:

(yay, something awful is relevant again :v:)

A few weeks ago I recorded about 18 hours of interviews for a feature length documentary being made about me, and Something Awful actually came up quite a bit as where I started out doing the sort of stuff I do now. It should be on the festival circuit in the US next summer looking for distributor.

Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010
Let's hope it doesn't have to look too far.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

I'm also working with CENTRIC, with our initial aim being to write a textbook on open source investigations by the 2nd quarter of 2015 for use at universities, etc. I gave a lecture to police at Sheffield Hallam a couple of weeks ago, and their reaction was very interesting. Seems there's all kinds of problems and pitfalls for them using open source investigative techniques, and there was a lot interesting debate on what that means for them in the future.

Plasmafountain
Jun 17, 2008

"So, Brown Moses, you got your start on a forum called Something Awful. Tell us about that."

"Well really the only thing I used to post it in was the UKMT."

"The UKMT? What is that?"

"The UK Mega Thread. A bunch of people who would argue over the right type of monster munch, boats and whether cutting your toast at ninety degrees to the edge or cutting into triangles makes you either lower, middle or upper class. Oh, and some guy bragged about how he took a steaming poo poo on a train platform once because he couldnt hold it in."

":psyboom:"

Rolled Cabbage
Sep 3, 2006
Is one of the biggies one not letting students submit attachments? I have never been closer to putting my fist through a monitor than when trying to get tens of thousands of carefully coded social media posts into a 'word friendly' format.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Zero Gravitas posted:

"So, Brown Moses, you got your start on a forum called Something Awful. Tell us about that."

"Well really the only thing I used to post it in was the UKMT."

"The UKMT? What is that?"

"The UK Mega Thread. A bunch of people who would argue over the right type of monster munch, boats and whether cutting your toast at ninety degrees to the edge or cutting into triangles makes you either lower, middle or upper class. Oh, and some guy bragged about how he took a steaming poo poo on a train platform once because he couldnt hold it in."

":psyboom:"

I had to explain LF as well.

[edit] UKMT - Poorly Moderated by the 81st Most Powerful Person in the UK Media

Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Dec 8, 2014

Plasmafountain
Jun 17, 2008

Brown Moses posted:

I had to explain LF as well.

[edit] UKMT - Poorly Moderated by the 81st Most Powerful Person in the UK Media

In all seriousness, did you actually loving explain the UKMT pretty much like I said? And LF as well? I hope ShakeyBeef gets a mention somewhere.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

mfcrocker posted:

UK Megathread, from Hell's heart I stab at thee

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-30376446


(they should still do it though :v:)

That judge is amateur hour.

Lord Justice Lewison posted:

The judge seems to me to have thought that the needs of wheelchair users trumped all other considerations.

Because they do. Disability is a protected characteristic under the Equality Act.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Zero Gravitas posted:

In all seriousness, did you actually loving explain the UKMT pretty much like I said? And LF as well? I hope ShakeyBeef gets a mention somewhere.

Pretty much, and not only that, I had to explain Caro too.

Plasmafountain
Jun 17, 2008

Brown Moses posted:

Pretty much, and not only that, I had to explain Caro too.

And what was their reaction? I can only imagine a kind of :stonk: look.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

quote:

Lord Justice Underhill said: "It has to be accepted that our conclusion and reasoning in this case means that wheelchair users will occasionally be prevented by other passengers from using the wheelchair space on the bus.

How do you say this out loud and not realise

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy
I get that he doesn't want to rule that the bus company has a legal requirement to prioritise disabled people

it's just that he should

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
Why are you all ignoring the central point that the ruling is to determine whether the bus company has to force passengers to give up the wheelchair space or not?

The bus company does prioritise disabled people.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Zero Gravitas posted:

And what was their reaction? I can only imagine a kind of :stonk: look.

Basically that, especially considering how it ended.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Brown Moses posted:

[edit] UKMT - Poorly Moderated by the 81st Most Powerful Person in the UK Media
+1

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

Brown Moses posted:

I made it to 81 in the Media Guardian's Power 100, beating the likes of Jeremy Paxman, Steven Moffat, Gary Lineker, Piers Morgan, and Kim Kardashian. Fitting really, as they all at least make 81 times the money I do.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/ng-interactive/2014/dec/08/mediaguardian-100-2014-interactive-guide

Congrats, BM! :toot:
---

Forin Immigrants cloggin' up are roads! :bahgawd:

Prince John
Jun 20, 2006

Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?

Dabir posted:

How do you say this out loud and not realise

The next paragraph is the important bit though.

quote:

Lord Justice Underhill said: "It has to be accepted that our conclusion and reasoning in this case means that wheelchair users will occasionally be prevented by other passengers from using the wheelchair space on the bus.

"I do not, however, believe that the fact that some passengers will - albeit rarely - act selfishly and irresponsibly is a sufficient reason for imposing on bus companies a legal responsibility for a situation which is not of their making and which they are not in a position to prevent."

Lady Justice Arden she did not underestimate the difficulties of travel for wheelchair users "or their frustration at the pace of change"

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014


Well, it wouldn't do for native immigrants to clog up the roads. Not that we would, because we are unfailingly polite in Britain (unless you happen to be a Bulgamanian, Pakistani, gay, gyppo or Muslim and we happen to vote UKIP).

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

So who is responsible for enforcement? I'm guessing it falls to the police, which means it'll rarely be enforced due to lack of resource.

Sucks (even more) to be disabled.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Pissflaps posted:

Why are you all ignoring the central point that the ruling is to determine whether the bus company has to force passengers to give up the wheelchair space or not?

The bus company does prioritise disabled people.

literally no-one is ignoring this

I in fact specifically mentioned this in the post directly above yours

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...
Did anyone listen to the Radio 4 doc on Friday about Jeremy Thorpe? It sure sounded like someone tried to kill his lover.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11277432/Jeremy-Thorpe-scandal-New-claims-over-plot-to-murder-Norman-Scott.html

quote:

It was one of the greatest political scandals of the era – the charismatic former leader of the Liberal Party, Jeremy Thorpe, in the dock at the Old Bailey, charged with conspiracy to murder his homosexual lover after years of alleged cover-ups over his behaviour. Thorpe, who died last week at the age of 85, was found not guilty of plotting the murder of Norman Scott, a stable boy and part-time male model, but his previously glittering career was never to recover from the scandal.

Now, in a dramatic twist to the story, a new witness has come forward to claim that the plot to kill Scott to silence him and protect Thorpe from public humiliation extended to the highest levels of the Liberal Party. Dennis Meighan, a self-confessed former small time criminal, has claimed not only that he was the one who supplied the gun that was used to kill Scott’s dog Rinka on Exmoor – in one of the scandal’s most memorable incidents – but that his original mission was to go as far as to “get rid of” Thorpe’s lover himself. Furthermore, he claims that the order came from someone high up in the Liberal Party.
The Beeb explicitly said they'd been sitting on the documentary for decades and could only broadcast it now because Thorpe was dead.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

mfcrocker posted:

I in fact specifically mentioned this in the post directly above yours

No you didn't, and you're continuing to miss the point. It's not a question of prioritisation, it's one of enforcement.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

notaspy posted:

So who is responsible for enforcement? I'm guessing it falls to the police, which means it'll rarely be enforced due to lack of resource.

Sucks (even more) to be disabled.

The ruling isn't a judgement on how things shall be, it's a judgement on how things were at the time, legally. The bus company can't be held responsible for someone not moving their shopping/not having a collapsible pram (I don't remember which of those it was).

From here we can move to clarify that bus companies shall henceforth not allow prams to use wheelchair spaces, which means they can enforce it. Except that's a heap of poo poo for obvious reasons.

Tbh I still would rather a "sorry, no non-collapsible prams, get a free collapsible pram from some quango" and actually hand out prams when needed (not very often I should think) instead of leaving the situation as is.

But the ruling is, while hilariously badly worded, legally defensible. The wheelchair space was there and an attempt at resolution was made; the bus company have therefore acted in good faith in keeping with disabilities act. I can't see how we can hold them at legal fault for someone either being a wanker or simply not having the option to move the pram without leaving the bus, and I can't see how it would be legally defensible for a bus driver to throw a woman and child off a bus they've paid for.

The point is this is not an attack on disability rights, this is a clarification that you can't blame a bus company for a situation they don't really have an answer to right now. It needs further clarification on whether or not we allow prams to use that space, and n future the companies will be able to act.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house

Prince John posted:

The next paragraph is the important bit though.

Spoken like someone who's never used the bus in their life. I frequently have to use the bus with my Nan who is in a wheelchair and the reason I have to use it with her is because she wouldn't be able to get anywhere if I wasn't with her.

People are rude, inconsiderate pricks unless you give them a reason not to be. I've had bus drivers literally drive past us because it's too much hassle to pull the ramp down.

Rush Limbo fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Dec 8, 2014

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Pissflaps posted:

No you didn't, and you're continuing to miss the point. It's not a question of prioritisation, it's one of enforcement.

Something's being lost in conversation then because that's definitely what I'm saying. A legal requirement kind of dictates enforcement, surely?

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Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

mfcrocker posted:

A legal requirement kind of dictates enforcement, surely?

That's what this whole case has been about : whether the bus company was legally required to enforce - not just provide - priority seating for disabled people. It's been found that they were not.

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