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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Oh god I lost to the first labyrinth boss. I feel bad. Is level 8 too low?
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Is it just me or does the story, post 4th dungeon, really has a lot of parallels to Persona 1? Niko/Rei's situation reminds me a lot of Maki.
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Dec 8, 2014 07:11
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What does Aeon Rain do? I just got a skill card for it (and Power Charge, but what that does is obvious) and I don't wanna go hunting for a persona with it so I can figure it out. Don't wanna waste it.
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Dec 8, 2014 11:08
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Manatee Cannon posted:What does Aeon Rain do? I just got a skill card for it (and Power Charge, but what that does is obvious) and I don't wanna go hunting for a persona with it so I can figure it out. Don't wanna waste it. If you go to use it, it will say what it does on the bottom of the screen before you select who to use it on.
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Dec 8, 2014 11:32
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I'm not going to feel bad about Impure Reach/instant kill any more, because these FOEs have not killed fewer than four party members at a time with Mahamaon yet, including always hitting Naoto, who resists it. Edit: Do the main personas evolve? I just hit level 55 with P3MC and got what appears to be Orpheus' last ability, and he only has three. Amazing. I bought accessories for two other party members to help them resist light. Fought the FOE, hit it with Tentarafoo, extended it with Stagnant Air, had it almost killed before panic wore off. Missed with the second Tentarafoo, it used Mahamaon, full party wipe even with three people with resist light. Armor-Piercing fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Dec 8, 2014 |
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Dec 8, 2014 16:45
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Armor-Piercing posted:Mahamaon, full party wipe even with three people with resist light. The real Shin Megami Tensei starts here.
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Dec 8, 2014 17:20
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Armor-Piercing posted:Edit: Do the main personas evolve? I just hit level 55 with P3MC and got what appears to be Orpheus' last ability, and he only has three. Yes. It unlocks once you beat Margaret in a quest that opens up during the fifth labyrinth.
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Dec 8, 2014 17:41
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Strange Quark posted:Yes. It unlocks once you beat Margaret in a quest that opens up during the fifth labyrinth. i'm pretty sure it's when both protagonists are level 55. i got it before i was finished with the fourth.
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Dec 8, 2014 19:16
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Inflammatory posted:i'm pretty sure it's when both protagonists are level 55. i got it before i was finished with the fourth. Oh, that'd make sense, since I got it once I finished the first labyrinth on NG+.
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Dec 8, 2014 19:33
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Do the Growth+ items increase XP gain if the character is in the main party? I don't believe they did in P3/P4 but the description is a little different in PQ. It reads "+25% XP, even if not in the party" instead of something like "1/3 XP gain if not in party".
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Dec 8, 2014 22:48
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Vengarr posted:When it says characters belong in the front or back row, they're just talking about their weapons. As in, the bog-standard "Attack" command that you'll pretty much never use. I will say that Attack does have one use: those 1 DMG weapons you tend to pick up from the dungeon also come stacked with debuff bonuses, so if you want to hit a certain debuff they're a pretty cool way to apply them without having to use Persona skills. Also while I haven't found one yet, a weapon that's stacked with Crit might serve you on your mage to get a crit + free cast of whatever expensive spell you want. Vengarr posted:Do the Growth+ items increase XP gain if the character is in the main party? I think it's something like 125% while in party, 25% while in reserve.
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Dec 8, 2014 22:53
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Whoa, FOEs will wander into normal fights if you get an encounter in their area. That's pretty cool.
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Dec 8, 2014 22:53
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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:Whoa, FOEs will wander into normal fights if you get an encounter in their area. That's pretty cool. Yeah, that's a classic Etrian Odyssey thing. It's kinda underused in PQ.
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Dec 8, 2014 22:55
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Okay, so I just encountered the Old Doll on the 4th level of the Evil Spirits Club. Wow, this thing is PURE BULLSHIT. No wonder I saw some chatting about it upthread. It seems like binding magic is the only choice I really have against this thing, who's the best party member to give Makajam to?
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Dec 8, 2014 23:10
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Could just not fight it and do the dungeon gimmick, dude.
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Dec 8, 2014 23:10
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StandardVC10 posted:Okay, so I just encountered the Old Doll on the 4th level of the Evil Spirits Club. Wow, this thing is PURE BULLSHIT. No wonder I saw some chatting about it upthread. It seems like binding magic is the only choice I really have against this thing, who's the best party member to give Makajam to? It's vulnerable to Light insta-kills.
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Dec 8, 2014 23:11
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Moldy Taxes posted:Could just not fight it and do the dungeon gimmick, dude. It seems to catch up with me regardless, so frankly I'd rather just be able to kill it.
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Dec 8, 2014 23:12
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StandardVC10 posted:It seems to catch up with me regardless, so frankly I'd rather just be able to kill it. That's because it can move 2 spaces in a straight line for each step you take. Corners, even artificial ones, are your friend when escaping.
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Dec 8, 2014 23:14
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Also you're going to miss the satisfaction of actually solving the gimmick. I pretty much jumped from excitement when I solved it.
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Dec 8, 2014 23:28
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gently caress the Inaba Pride festival. I've fallen to killing the FOEs by abusing Blaze Oil and Healing Harp as well as Decay Circle because I can't figure out what the hell they want from me.
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Dec 8, 2014 23:29
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Lunar Suite posted:gently caress the Inaba Pride festival. I've fallen to killing the FOEs by abusing Blaze Oil and Healing Harp as well as Decay Circle because I can't figure out what the hell they want from me. There really isn't much to the Pride Festival. Light the torches, move through the doors. Later on, move through the gateways in the correct order, then move through the doors. If you give more specific descriptions of where you are, more specific advice can probably be given.
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Dec 8, 2014 23:35
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Lunar Suite posted:gently caress the Inaba Pride festival. I've fallen to killing the FOEs by abusing Blaze Oil and Healing Harp as well as Decay Circle because I can't figure out what the hell they want from me. The FOEs in Inaba Pride are really too weak to justify worrying about the puzzles. Except for the shrine-carrying FOE, that guy will gently caress you up good but he's also the easiest to avoid. Most egregiously, the stairs in Floor 2 are blocked off by an FOE and the other characters wants you to go the long way across the entire labyrinth to avoid him. Except you can kill him as soon as he shows up without any trouble. Except that the next floor requires you to bring a torch with you, and the only way to get that torch is to do the whole floor anyway! 
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Dec 9, 2014 00:10
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I really need Binding Hands and some good binds because I am getting really loving tired of these gold hands dodging me. Also the FOEs in Inaba Pride somehow manage to dodge Tentarafoo 90% of the time even though I have Impure Reach. Then they just become obnoxious battles of attrition where they put me to sleep over and over again. There's no way I'm losing to them but dragging the fight out for so long is annoying.Shadow Ninja 64 posted:Whoa, FOEs will wander into normal fights if you get an encounter in their area. That's pretty cool. You can fight multiple FOEs at once, too. It gives a ton of exp.
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Dec 9, 2014 00:21
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Vengarr posted:The FOEs in Inaba Pride are really too weak to justify worrying about the puzzles. Except for the shrine-carrying FOE, that guy will gently caress you up good but he's also the easiest to avoid. My first experience with the festival dudes was getting my entire team one shot for over twice their max hp by its random target slash attack. I promptly went back with 3 guys with death's scythe skillcards and killed it before panic could run out. Speaking of death's scythe, that passive seems insanely powerful, I think it's doubling my damage against panicing FOEs roughly. I really like the floor gimmicks of the 4th labyrinth, even if brute forcing through the floors would be really easy. Einwand fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Dec 9, 2014 |
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Dec 9, 2014 00:27
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Manatee Cannon posted:I really need Binding Hands and some good binds because I am getting really loving tired of these gold hands dodging me. the game never tells you this, but panicking enemies also makes them unable to dodge. it's seriously the best ailment in the game.
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Dec 9, 2014 00:29
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Inflammatory posted:the game never tells you this, but panicking enemies also makes them unable to dodge. it's seriously the best ailment in the game. I know it does because I've been using it on FOEs for the past couple labyrinths, but that poo poo has appalling accuracy even with Impure Reach. Maybe Tentarafoo is just bad.
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Dec 9, 2014 00:40
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Manatee Cannon posted:I really need Binding Hands and some good binds because I am getting really loving tired of these gold hands dodging me. Also the FOEs in Inaba Pride somehow manage to dodge Tentarafoo 90% of the time even though I have Impure Reach. Then they just become obnoxious battles of attrition where they put me to sleep over and over again. There's no way I'm losing to them but dragging the fight out for so long is annoying. At this point you should really have samael plus you can get some pretty good bind cards off different personas. I ended sticking them on Minato.
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Dec 9, 2014 00:42
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Does Samael have the skill card for it? There's no point in downgrading that much for him, I'd rather just take the card and put the skill on my MC since he doesn't have much to do right now.
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Dec 9, 2014 00:44
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Manatee Cannon posted:Does Samael have the skill card for it? There's no point in downgrading that much for him, I'd rather just take the card and put the skill on my MC since he doesn't have much to do right now. Somebody posted a QR code for an awesome Samael earlier, I'd take that and fuse his abilities up. Although I rarely see much value from Magic/Strength bind, it seems like most enemies against whom it would be really useful are just straight-up immune. I tested Salome's Kiss+Binding Hands on the Lovely Doll, and the only one that ever hit was Agility Bind. It's gonna spam MaMudo and Megidola and you're going to Agility Bind is always useful though.
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Dec 9, 2014 00:57
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Agility Bind is the most important one anyway since Kanji and Aigis have problems hitting things. Especially with Myriad Arrows, which is what I want them to hit people with in the first place.
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Dec 9, 2014 01:03
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Vengarr posted:Although I rarely see much value from Magic/Strength bind, it seems like most enemies against whom it would be really useful are just straight-up immune. I tested Salome's Kiss+Binding Hands on the Lovely Doll, and the only one that ever hit was Agility Bind. You just got unlucky. You'll know straight up if something is immune to an attack because the Null icon will pop up. I know for a fact that Old Dolls and Lovely Dolls can be Magic Bound because that's how I beat them. Manatee Cannon posted:Agility Bind is the most important one anyway since Kanji and Aigis have problems hitting things. Especially with Myriad Arrows, which is what I want them to hit people with in the first place. Try putting Aim Goggles on them (the better accuracy improvement accessory). Kanji hits better than 50% of his Myriad Arrows shots against most enemies with them on even without Sukaja/Sukunda assistance.
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Dec 9, 2014 01:05
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Probably a silly question but if you never played Persona 3 or 4 is this game worth playing?
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Dec 9, 2014 01:08
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MinionOfCthulhu posted:Probably a silly question but if you never played Persona 3 or 4 is this game worth playing? If you've played the Etrian Odyssey games and just want more of that type of gameplay I'd say yes. The game's had a lot more interesting labyrinths than EO4 has, but at the same time it's really easy to break the game over your knee.
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Dec 9, 2014 01:13
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just be aware that there are a lot of references you aren't going to get.
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Dec 9, 2014 01:14
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MinionOfCthulhu posted:Probably a silly question but if you never played Persona 3 or 4 is this game worth playing? Not really, the gameplay is great but the story assumes you played 4 and probably 3 as well. It's not going to explain anything beyond the barest basics of the characters, it'll spoil a few plot points for both games, and generally won't be as enjoyable. Go play P4, it's a classic. P3 is great too, just play P3P since it back-ported most of the gameplay improvements from P4.
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Dec 9, 2014 01:29
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Old Doll update: it kept following me until I got trapped between it and a babby FOE, whereupon I got super lucky and got an instant kill on it. Which makes me wonder what the hell I was supposed to have done about it.
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Dec 9, 2014 01:44
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StandardVC10 posted:Old Doll update: it kept following me until I got trapped between it and a babby FOE, whereupon I got super lucky and got an instant kill on it. Which makes me wonder what the hell I was supposed to do about it. The intended method is to trap it between the two lights that're roughly at the center of the map Now that I've got the myriad arrow crew up and running I'm going to go kill it again without using hamaon on principle.
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Dec 9, 2014 01:46
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It's a lot more satisfying to evaporate it IMO, because gently caress that thing, seriously.
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Dec 9, 2014 01:47
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Seriously Old Doll has nearly 10k HP and Diarahan, it's such a slog to fight legit.
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You don't even need agility bind for myriad arrows to gently caress poo poo up. Panic also makes the enemies unable to dodge them. Yosuke with impure reach + Tentarafoo and then Akihiko with Myriad Arrows + Death's Scythe + Warrior's Mark is devastatingly amazing.
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