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So I'm getting a parrot very soon, and I've been reading a crapton of books and articles and whatnot, and I, like many here have noticed just how much ridiculous advice is out there. Be it, crazy hippy bullshit, or wacky pet masturbation, there is no shortage of terrible advice. Keep an eye out for the red-flag terms "healthful" or "holistic" or "alternative". Let's compile it all here. Parrots for Dummies quote:Most veterinarians will tell you not to allow your bird to touch the ground for any reason. There's a fear of parasites and illness from filthy conditions. However, parrots that are allowed on the natural ground get the benefit of the earth's biomagnetism (which is heathful for everyone). Guide to the Senegal Parrot and its Family quote:Traditional Western medicine falls show when it comes to many of the avian customers' complaints. I have gladly allowed my birds to be "guinea pigs" of alternative therapies. Several of my birds have had their lives saved by acupuncture, homeopathy, and Chinese herbs. Various Posters on TheParrotForum.com quote:Their body registers the time difference between seasons - this is done so very exactly that tropical birds (and all other birds) are able to register a difference of a mere 20 minutes (which is the difference in the tropics -it's not 12 hours of light and 12 hours of darkness, it's 11:40 hours of light and 12:20 hours of dark or 12:20 of light and 11:40 of darkness). BUT their main breeding trigger is food availability instead of the length of dayhours so they only breed when food is abundant (usually at the beginning of the dry season when everything sprouts after the rainy season -which also has weather not propitious for breeding). The problem with this is that, in captivity, the weather is always good and the food is always rich and plentiful so, if you keep a parrot at 12 hours of light and 12 of dark, the parrot will produce sexual hormones all year round, year after year after year. Thankfully, all tropical birds revert to photoperiodism as their main trigger when exposed to longer differences which is great for us, parrot keepers, because producing sexual hormones all the time is something that 1) never happens in Nature (birds have a 'resting' season when they don't breed) and 2) creates physical problems because Nature made it so birds sexual organs are dormant and small during the resting season until the breeding trigger acts and they start producing sexual hormones which make their gonads (sexual organs) active and large. When you keep a bird producing sexual hormones without rest, these organs can become hugely enlarged, pushing other organs from their rightful place and causing chronic pain. quote:The correct bulb has a CRI of 94+ with a K temp of 5000to 5500. But to use them you will have to slowly increase the brightness over a period of at least 30 minutes until the light is fully on and then dim it over the same period of time in the evening.
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# ? May 9, 2024 22:59 |
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This thread is already amazing.
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# ? Dec 7, 2014 21:28 |
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http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2013/03/11/parrot-healed-with-essential-oils.aspx
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# ? Dec 7, 2014 23:27 |
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Clicker Training for Birdsquote:Make sure your birds food is organic and not genetically modified. ^^^ Pile of Kittens posted:http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2013/03/11/parrot-healed-with-essential-oils.aspx Unfuckingbelievable Grraarrgghh fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Dec 7, 2014 |
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Oh god I clicked through to the article that "vet" wrote on it. It is extremely professional and scientific.quote:Well I am not one to everdo something to an animal that I wouldn’t do to myself. So, I sprayed it directly edit: ohohoho quote:Please remember – that I only recommend the use of Young Living Essential Oils for your human family and your animal family. ...so I guess at least she doesn't recommend you use them on strangers? Pile of Kittens fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Dec 8, 2014 |
# ? Dec 7, 2014 23:36 |
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Anecdotal story, but I watched a local vet throw a woman out of her clinic for screeching that having the clinic's rescue cockatoo on the same floor as the adoptable cats' room. Was the issue that the cats could theoretically escape and (Bonus story: one time a parakeet that was being fostered in the clinic escaped and flew into the cockatoo's cage. The poor thing was trapped for two hours under the beast's massive wing as the cockatoo tried to preen and regurgitate for the tiny baby suddenly in its home and lunged at any vet tech brave enough to reach into his cage. I love this bird.)
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# ? Dec 8, 2014 04:34 |
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My dog's breeder is a font of this poo poo. Not only did she recommend a diet of cheese, mince, cereal and Beneful, when I visited my local vet one of the vet techs told me she had ended up with one of her puppies - it's mum had cancer and couldn't feed it (because when you find out your dog has cancer you must get it pregnant immediately to 'at least preserve the bloodline') and she thought that feeding the 4 week old puppy evaporated milk and sweetened condensed milk was an appropriate response. By the time the vet tech got the pup it was half dead and pissing blood. It's funny how you only find this crap out afterwards. Sigh.
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# ? Dec 8, 2014 05:43 |
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Official Bizness posted:(Bonus story: one time a parakeet that was being fostered in the clinic escaped and flew into the cockatoo's cage. The poor thing was trapped for two hours under the beast's massive wing as the cockatoo tried to preen and regurgitate for the tiny baby suddenly in its home and lunged at any vet tech brave enough to reach into his cage. I love this bird.)
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# ? Dec 8, 2014 14:13 |
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Remember that it is cheaper to neuter your pets yourself rather than paying somebody else to do it
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# ? Dec 8, 2014 15:14 |
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My Lil Parachute posted:This is the greatest thing I have ever read in a decade of SA. One last derail: Rio the 'too swears like a sailor and calls everyone who comes to the second floor a motherfucker (and calls down into the foyer that you're a son of a bitch, rear end in a top hat! if you're not visiting him) and laughs maniacally at dogs to unnerve them.
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# ? Dec 8, 2014 15:39 |
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Don't work with rams/buck goats when you're on your period because they can smell it and get the blood lust/regular lust and go after you. Really women just shouldn't work with male livestock at all because they can tell you're female and won't respect you.
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# ? Dec 8, 2014 15:41 |
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Official Bizness posted:One last derail: Rio the 'too swears like a sailor and calls everyone who comes to the second floor a motherfucker (and calls down into the foyer that you're a son of a bitch, rear end in a top hat! if you're not visiting him) and laughs maniacally at dogs to unnerve them. I didn't know I needed video of profane, insane cockatoos in my life but now I know the truth.
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# ? Dec 8, 2014 15:47 |
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I've read a lot of people use apple cider vinegar in their birds' water for health at something like 8 tablespoons/gallon. And it has to be LIVE apple cider with the "mother" still in it or else it doesn't work. It's healthy because of acid. It sounds like folk wisdom and I've never seen any actual studies on it. I have a hard time believing that there's a magic zone of acidity that will kill Bad Bacteria and not Good Bacteria in a bird's gut.
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# ? Dec 9, 2014 04:46 |
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Yo, imma blob posted:I've read a lot of people use apple cider vinegar in their birds' water for health at something like 8 tablespoons/gallon. And it has to be LIVE apple cider with the "mother" still in it or else it doesn't work. It's healthy because of acid. The lady who wrote Parrots For Dummies doesn't shut up about using Grapefruit Seed Extract to clean literally everything, and even recommends putting it in their water. A cursory Google on GSE shows that it's basically Drano. http://www.mommypotamus.com/the-ugly-truth-about-grapefruit-seed-extract/
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# ? Dec 9, 2014 06:02 |
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I haven't read Parrots for Dummies in ages and didn't remember all of that crap, just that it was useful for practical advice like lists of unsafe foods and unsafe household products, first aid, advice on toys and cage sizes, etc. Now I feel a little awkward about recommending it to people but it was the best book I found out there at the time... which doesn't say much for the others.
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# ? Dec 9, 2014 15:37 |
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Livestock folks are also in love with ACV and use it for everything from treating anemia to increasing the percentage of female offspring you have born each year.
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# ? Dec 9, 2014 23:23 |
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Yeah apparently I don't need to worm any of my livestock, I simply need to wave some apple cider vinegar over their water and feed them handfulls of pumpkin seeds every once in a while, and they will forever be parasite free.
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# ? Dec 10, 2014 00:06 |
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Just took the bird to an avian vet who recommended ACV in the water to help digestion. She is the head of the local universities veterinary department.
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# ? Dec 15, 2014 20:23 |
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What is with people and apple cider vinegar as a cure all for every possible ailment? I come across this constantly. It's like a stinky acid version of homeopathy.
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# ? Dec 15, 2014 21:47 |
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Did she say what the ACV was specifically supposed to do? For what it's worth, my feather-picking lovebird is on a Chinese herbal supplement from his avian vet, and he has stopped being stressed out ever since. I don't think it has ACV in it though.
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# ? Dec 15, 2014 22:01 |
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Lots of people I know believe that hummingbirds never land, but spend their entire lives flying. Disregarding things like sleep, mating, raising young... Also, my mother thinks that if she doesn't take down her hummingbird feeder in the winter that the hummers will refuse to migrate because food, and will then die of the cold. And then there are the folks that claim rice thrown at weddings will be ingested by birds and then swell within the bird, causing a bird explosion. A literal EXPLOSION. VVV Oh fer crissakes. That's a new one on me. Velvet Sparrow fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Dec 16, 2014 |
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Velvet Sparrow posted:Also, my mother thinks that if she doesn't take down her hummingbird feeder in the winter that the hummers will refuse to migrate because food, and will then die of the cold. reminds me of this:
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# ? Dec 16, 2014 03:07 |
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Yo, imma blob posted:Did she say what the ACV was specifically supposed to do? She said it would not only aid digestion, but if there was an issue with stomach parasites, it would take care of them as well.
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# ? Dec 16, 2014 04:58 |
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So basically quackery
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# ? Dec 16, 2014 14:17 |
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I use apple cider vinegar to make teriyaki and put it on all kinds of animals, they all end up tasting delicious so dunno what ya'lls problem is.
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# ? Dec 16, 2014 22:02 |
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Grraarrgghh posted:
I've heard a lot of this for helping digestion/other stomach-related things, but only in very very very small amounts in very short amounts of time. Something about helping Ph, maybe...? I don't remember.
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# ? Dec 16, 2014 22:18 |
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Kooky Website posted:Healing pets and animals requires a very strong and centered mind. Animal's minds are not like humans. Humans related to pain whereas animals react to pain. Any fear you have can also be sensed by an animal and amplified by the crystals. It is very important to be balanced, centered, grounded and have good intentions before you attempt to heal your pet with crystals or stones. Crystals amplify effects and you need to be cautious until you find out how your pet reacts. Yeah, I'm sure it is the "intensity" of the rocks in their beds that the pets dislike.... https://www.naturesforyou.com/shoppingcart/pages/Healing-Crystals-and-Stones-for-Pets-and-Animals.html#.VJClDckow3g
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# ? Dec 16, 2014 22:37 |
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Here's a co-op article about various solutions for chickens, vinegar among them.
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# ? Dec 16, 2014 22:51 |
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So either the vet gave me a snow job, birds fight fungal infections themselves (likely) or ACV is a ~*!WoNDeR DruG!*~. My parrot had a minor fungal infection, the vet told me to put him on 2 weeks of water with 1cc per 100ml ACV cut in, and lo and behold, his second fecalgram is clean. Anyway, doing more bird research. Guess what? Your parrot can READ YOUR MIND From an article about finding a bird that has flown the coop: Don't forget to call your local parrot telepath!
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# ? Jan 8, 2015 01:17 |
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Actually, depending on the particular fungus, it may help to raise the acidity in the crop slightly, making the environment more hostile to it. On the other hand, maybe using actual medicine would yield slightly more reliable results.
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# ? Jan 8, 2015 02:24 |
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Man, if birds are that in need of this stuff it's amazing they've managed be around for over 65 millions years
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# ? Jan 9, 2015 01:23 |
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I used ACV and balsamic to make chicken adobo for dinner. I conclude that vinegar is GREAT FOR BIRDS. Throw some soy sauce in there too while you're at it. We give the goats apple cider vinegar in their water because they like the taste, so it makes them drink more in the summer.
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# ? Jan 9, 2015 01:34 |
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Grraarrgghh posted:So either the vet gave me a snow job, birds fight fungal infections themselves (likely) or ACV is a ~*!WoNDeR DruG!*~. My parrot had a minor fungal infection, the vet told me to put him on 2 weeks of water with 1cc per 100ml ACV cut in, and lo and behold, his second fecalgram is clean I was always told not to use medicines, supplements, ect that go into the birds water because it is pretty much impossible to know how much of it they have consumed
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# ? Jan 10, 2015 05:06 |
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Tasty_Crayon posted:I was always told not to use medicines, supplements, ect that go into the birds water because it is pretty much impossible to know how much of it they have consumed It's even dumber when you consider that he is still being handfed, which means a huge majority of his daily hydration comes from formula.
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# ? Jan 10, 2015 07:19 |
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The "about us" section for a local dog trainer:quote:1) THERE ARE 2 MASTERS the page also contains this gem:
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# ? Jan 14, 2015 01:31 |
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"spontaneous correct choice making"
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# ? Jan 14, 2015 02:09 |
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It fits. ask your heart, ask your body, what’s the right thing to do at this moment?
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# ? Jan 15, 2015 04:32 |
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There is a petition going around to have PetCo stop selling an homeopathic product to help calm hyper dogs, called Good Dog. "It has been shown that essences from selected flowers, when added to your pet's drinking water, aid in helping balance the emotions of pets with behavior problems. This is done easily, gently and with no harmful side effects with Good Dog! Many veterinarians recommend the use of essences for pets with behavior problems. Pet owners continually report great success. The selected flowers are carefully harvested at the most optimal time, thus assuring essences with the fullest potency. Quality is assured through standardization and other recognized control methods. Non-toxic, non-radiated. No binders, fillers, herbicide or fumigants. " I hear it works pretty well, but not because of the flower's potency. Instead, it's because the stuff is 13% alcohol. Get your puppy drunk to cure his hyperactivity or anxiety! What could go wrong?
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light_urple posted:It fits.
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