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Aesop Poprock posted:mma posters here like to see mma "purists" get mad too so I'm not sure why you're assuming they're referring to goons If you aren't a fan of MMA are you likely to be hanging out on the Underground?
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Does Chael have any remaining credibility?quote:According to Sonnen he thinks you could see Brooks debut in April or May and he also teased that he had a good inkling of who he might be put up against saying, "I have a pretty good idea who his opponent is." Huge long interview here: http://www.mmamania.com/2014/12/8/7351355/chael-sonnen-on-cm-punk-ufc-fans-will-know-first-opponent-heavy-favorite-to-win-mma
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Marching Powder posted:this whole thing won't not be funny. here's an example of a time when an mma guy went to pro wrestling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_12qn29WKA Wasn't this literally the drill instructor scene from starship troopers Angle (legitimately) broke the guy before's ribs so this guy decided to try his ~sick cage fighting~ and owned him super hard, then got owned super hard in retaliation for making Angle look like a dummy on national TV e: quote:Kurt came over and said who wants a chance, I raised my hand as fast as I could. Just because, I knew that I wrestled, my old coach was Danny Shay…Danny only lost to him in the Olympic trials by a couple of points, so I knew I had trained with guys that are as good as him. I wasn't really scared of him, plus I had the MMA stuff and I knew he wasn't really into that as much. So I got in there, they said the rules were no striking…and I caught him in a key lock…he's a strong guy. He's freakin' strong. So I caught him in a key lock, pulled him into a Kamura and tried to snap his arm off. It nearly worked, you guys can see how close it was.
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Dec 9, 2014 09:05
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If he did an omoplata instead he mighty've finished that instead of being counted out, right? or what that not a real shoot
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Dec 9, 2014 09:08
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Luigi Thirty posted:Wasn't this literally the drill instructor scene from starship troopers Everything about that situation was retarded, up to and including the fact that Eddy, Benoit and Hardcore Holly decided to take liberties on the kid ON PAY PER VIEW in that years ROYAL loving RUMBLE in retaliation.
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1st AD posted:If he did an omoplata instead he mighty've finished that instead of being counted out, right? It was a real shoot. They ran the trainees through drills to tire them out before they had Kurt shoot on them to show them they ain't poo poo, only for Puder to come in and almost break his arm. The ref luckily thought quickly to count the bullshit pin because Kurt was never going to tap.
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Dec 9, 2014 09:15
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Wasn't Kurt injured too when they shot that, like his knee or his neck was hosed up again which was his excuse as to why he got ownedSanguinia posted:Everything about that situation was retarded, up to and including the fact that Eddy, Benoit and Hardcore Holly decided to take liberties on the kid ON PAY PER VIEW in that years ROYAL loving RUMBLE in retaliation. beginning of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXAsImy3IlM in fact, everyone in this video is retarded Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Dec 9, 2014 |
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Luigi Thirty posted:Wasn't Kurt injured too Please be more specific, this could refer to any point in the last 13 years of Kurt's career.
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Dec 9, 2014 11:26
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WrasslorMonkey posted:
This looks entirely like its Jericho's fault.
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Dec 9, 2014 11:27
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Lid posted:This looks entirely like its Jericho's fault. Generally Punk's GTS looks not so great because it's tough to make it look good without really stiffing the dude in the face, which is generally what you don't want to do. In Japan, stiff wrestling is more acceptable and encouraged, so KENTA can knee the poo poo out of his opponent and it looks awesome, especially when the dude sells it by faceplanting like in the earlier gif.
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Dec 9, 2014 11:40
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Lloyd Boner posted:Generally Punk's GTS looks not so great because it's tough to make it look good without really stiffing the dude in the face, which is generally what you don't want to do. In Japan, stiff wrestling is more acceptable and encouraged, so KENTA can knee the poo poo out of his opponent and it looks awesome, especially when the dude sells it by faceplanting like in the earlier gif. It's also trickier with bigger dudes, both in terms of the lift and getting a convincing connection with the knee, since their feet need to be on the ground at that point.
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Dec 9, 2014 11:51
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There was that one time he destroyed Rey's nose with it that looked really good.
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Lid posted:This looks entirely like its Jericho's fault. If that was their Payback match, it was completely sloppy with bunch of obvious blown spots and terrible attempts at throwing punches or any other strike. Everyone raved about it though for some reason.
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Dec 9, 2014 16:04
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colonel_korn posted:Does Chael have any remaining credibility? Not after this. Seriously, the guy doesn't even know what weight class he's going to be in and Chael says he knows who his opponent is going to be? So much bullshit there....
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Dec 9, 2014 16:06
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Viper_3000 posted:Not after this. Seriously, the guy doesn't even know what weight class he's going to be in and Chael says he knows who his opponent is going to be? So much bullshit there.... Not that I believe that this is the straw that breaks the camels back regarding Sonnen's credibility, or that Sonnen is saying anything remotely true, but the weight class issue isn't a problem if this mystery man has a history of fighting at 170 and 185 themselves.
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Dec 9, 2014 18:53
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Aurain posted:Not that I believe that this is the straw that breaks the camels back regarding Sonnen's credibility, or that Sonnen is saying anything remotely true, but the weight class issue isn't a problem if this mystery man has a history of fighting at 170 and 185 themselves. Sonnen vs. Punk would rule in NJPW, but I can't see Punk being remotely ready to fight a guy on Chael's level in a shootfight anytime soon.
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Dec 9, 2014 19:05
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If chael didn't have his drugs punk could probably break him mentally in the pre fight promos. You'd have one round of chael whooping him then he'd dive into a guillotine. I'm kidding but only kind of.
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Dec 9, 2014 19:09
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Lets be clear. Even if CM punk was in the top 100 talents ever in mma, like lesnar, he would absolutely get destroyed by Sonnen if it was his first fight
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Dec 9, 2014 19:11
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cm punk and sonnen are friends, that's why chael is claiming he knows who punk will be fighting. not because he is the possible opponent. also, chael isn't a ufc fighter and that fight would never get approved by any athletic commission.
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Dec 9, 2014 19:11
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I'm a chael fan so i hope in like 2 years when his suspension is up he doesn't fight again. They'd test him rigorously and i don't want to see him off the juice and looking bad.
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Dec 9, 2014 19:13
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Bundt Cake posted:Lets be clear. Even if CM punk was in the top 100 talents ever in mma, like lesnar, he would absolutely get destroyed by Sonnen if it was his first fight which would be cool to see, nonetheless
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Dec 9, 2014 19:17
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Thankfully the lying cheater Chael Sonnen is currently unable to fight, saving CM Punk from this match.
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Dec 9, 2014 19:26
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LobsterMobster posted:Also, since he's got a black belt, how about Punk vs Al Bundy?
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Yeah an important thing to note is the commission won't approve a fight with a good experienced guy against a 0-0 guy.
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He expended too much energy and got tired
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Dec 9, 2014 21:21
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Dangersim posted:Yeah an important thing to note is the commission won't approve a fight with a good experienced guy against a 0-0 guy. Looks like Punk's gonna make his debut in Japan!
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Dec 9, 2014 21:22
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I can think of one guy around Punk's level that would be a good booking, hell he took Frank Trigg to the limit, but is a Styles Clash considered an illegal spike in the Unified Rules if the other guy tucks his chin?
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Thauros posted:Sonnen vs. Punk would rule in NJPW don't tease me with things that won't happen
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Here is an article in Rolling Stone where they talk to Punk. http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/cm-punk-on-joining-ufc-leaving-wwe-and-getting-punched-in-the-face-20141210 quote:I understand other peoples' point of view about, "Oh, there's great fighters out there like Ben Askren." My only point on that is, "Don't be mad at me, Ben. Be mad at [UFC President] Dana [White]." I'm sure Ben Askren's a nice guy. If he's mad at me, I understand. But if the Blackhawks came to me before Dana and Lorenzo did and were like, "We're gonna put you in goal," I'd be like, "That's great. I played a little hockey when I was a kid."
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Stokes posted:Here is an article in Rolling Stone where they talk to Punk. quote:Are there any techniques you're most looking forward to improving?  I love Punk.
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Dec 10, 2014 18:15
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As an aging drugged up fight promoter/ TV producer with a big background in Taekwondo, Joe Rogan should face Eric Bischoff on the undercard of Punk's fight.
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Stokes posted:Here is an article in Rolling Stone where they talk to Punk. Huh. Some of Punk's answers sound like it could all go very similarly wrong if this adventure doesn't go so well. 'Oh hey Dana and Lorenzo FLEW TO CHICAGO to sign me! WWE didn't do that, look at it as an example of how they do business so differently!'. I'd have a hard time believing WWE wouldn't fly out to talk to someone already very famous to sign them up, or that Dana and Lorenzo would personally fly out to Chicago to discuss why he's being cut after refusing to turn up to fight. I can sympathise that he's excited about fulfilling a dream, but it sounds like he's got some really rose-tinted ideas of life as a cage fighter.
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Cultlife posted:Huh. Some of Punk's answers sound like it could all go very similarly wrong if this adventure doesn't go so well. Dana and Lorenzo or just one of them do a lot of face to face meetings with fighters to get deals done or clear up problems. Sometimes Lorenzo has to do them alone because the fighter doesn't like Dana.
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I know very little of pro wrestling but from what I've heard Vince McMahon can be a bit of an rear end while Dana & Lorenzo generally do give special attention to the stars. Punk would have to gently caress up really badly, like failing his drug test after suddenly dropping out of a main event PPV, to be put on any sort of shitlist with those two. If Punk were half as famous or already had some sort of unfortunate MMA career prior to joining UFC it could go differently, but basically he's a 0-0 really really famous guy who they get to develop as a pet project. They'll let him live in their mansions if he asked.
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I'm now imagining them having a sleepover at Dana's and Dana showing off his guns carved out of bibles.
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Detroit_Dogg posted:I'm now imagining them having a sleepover at Dana's and Dana showing off his guns carved out of bibles. I would kill to see CM Punk in one of those videos Nick the Tooth does with Dana when he goes on a boys trip to his place in Maine and does stupid poo poo.
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Bubba Smith posted:I know very little of pro wrestling but from what I've heard Vince McMahon can be a bit of an rear end In response to the Punk situation and ruining several prospective draws, Vince McMahon was quoted as saying that millenials don't step up to reach for the brass ring (Note that wrestling is almost fully scripted and breaking script is generally a punishable offense). Since then, the people that Vince likes have been doing promos about going for the brass ring while new talent are being told to lose in 2 minutes in embarrassing ways.
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That's the whole problem with wrestling. You get hurt like an athlete, but unlike an athlete whether you succeed or fail is only tangentially related with your talent or effort. Nobody else has "reached for the brass ring." What way is there to even do that? How dare the company that pushed Khali as a main eventer, dicked CM Punk around for years, and had to be forced to let Daniel Bryan be in the main event pretend that this is a meritocracy.
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Tezzor posted:That's the whole problem with wrestling. You get hurt like an athlete, but unlike an athlete whether you succeed or fail is only tangentially related with your talent or effort. The company is run by a literal crazy person. There is no logic.
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Lol, so CM Punk isn't remotely a blue belt. He's trained infrequently with Rener.
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