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edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Hat Thoughts posted:

Is Anna Kendrick good in End of Watch, because I was looking through her filmography and realized I haven't liked her in anything I've seen.

She's OK, but it's not really a major role or anything.

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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Hat Thoughts posted:

Is Anna Kendrick good in End of Watch, because I was looking through her filmography and realized I haven't liked her in anything I've seen.

She's quite charming in it, as is Hilary Swank, Jr.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Hat Thoughts posted:

Is Anna Kendrick good in End of Watch, because I was looking through her filmography and realized I haven't liked her in anything I've seen.

She's pretty good in it, but the best thing she's done is Up in the Air, which got her an Oscar nom.

Also, Pitch Perfect, but that's an acquired taste.

LaughMyselfTo
Nov 15, 2012

by XyloJW

Yoshifan823 posted:

They filmed this over this past summer. Kendrick and Jeremy Jordan were cast in February. You have a weird definition of "years".

Just looked it up; I exaggerated, but it was filmed last summer. Summer 2013. That's a weirdly long time for a movie to be sitting on a shelf.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

LaughMyselfTo posted:

Just looked it up; I exaggerated, but it was filmed last summer. Summer 2013. That's a weirdly long time for a movie to be sitting on a shelf.

Ha, I stand corrected. I could have sworn it was this summer, but I suppose she was busy filming Into the Woods.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Hat Thoughts posted:

Is Anna Kendrick good in End of Watch, because I was looking through her filmography and realized I haven't liked her in anything I've seen.

she's good, but not like, stand-out good.

i liked her a lot in Scott Pilgrim but i know that movie's wildly polarizing

f#a#
Sep 6, 2004

I can't promise it will live up to the hype, but I tried my best.

muscles like this? posted:

JGL definitely looks off somehow.

Pasty makeup, eyebrow bleaching, 70s hair, maybe a prosthetic nose with the ala bent upwards, and maybe some digital shortening to Petit's 5'7".

I agree that this is coming too closely after Man on Wire. It might be nice to see something that doesn't feature cable TV quality dramatizations, I suppose.

Toaster Beef
Jan 23, 2007

that's not nature's way
I'm telling you, that's a CGI JGL. It's very well done, but it's CGI.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

The image they released back in July was pretty terrifying too:



From the other stills that have come out, it looks like they aren't embracing the full deep V-neck for the costuming, which is a disappointment.

smackfu fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Dec 9, 2014

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

Yoshifan823 posted:

She's pretty good in it, but the best thing she's done is Up in the Air, which got her an Oscar nom.

Also, Pitch Perfect, but that's an acquired taste.

I thought she was incredible in Rocket Science, even though that movie had some big problems. She definitely wasn't one of them.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming
The Rock + Paul Giamatti vs. Earthquakes

Eh! Frank
Mar 28, 2006

Doctor gave me these, I said what are these?
He said that they'll cure an existential type disease

I'm surprised this isn't a Roland Emmerich movie.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club




Remember that cool scene in 2012? LETS MAKE A WHOLE MOVIE ABOUT IT!

Uatu The Lurker
Sep 14, 2003

I can say no more!
Already I have over stayed my time in this ephemeral sphere!
That movie best end with The Rock flying around the Earth backwards to set back time.

not trolled not crying
Jan 29, 2007

21st Century Awezome Man

Eh! Frank posted:

I'm surprised this isn't a Roland Emmerich movie.

This looks like some studio head wanted a movie-length version of the Los Angeles' death scene from Emmerich's 2012. Even the effects look as convincing, which brings me to my rant; has the progress of CGI stagnated and gotten lazier these past years or am I just taking poo poo for granted nowadays? I can spot a digital background on almost any movie these days, unrealistic and unconvincing CGI everywhere.
Yeah, in theory it is awesome to see cities crumble and of course CGI is the way to go if you want to showcase massive destruction but in practise it looks like a soulless videogame cutscene with plastic looking buildings, water that doesn't act like water does, debris that somehow just screams "programmed to move like this".
It's hard to explain but there's always a little something to throw me off. Of course I'll enjoy a good mindless destruction as much as the next guy but there's always the awareness that I am watching something that hasn't actually ever been "natural" or concrete. I get more out of the White House explosion in 'Independence Day' than the White House explosions in 'White House Down'. The gently caress is this madness?

Ave Azaria
Oct 4, 2010

by Lowtax

Kush posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34SvZfGSW_o The Walk

Robert Zemeckis' new film with JGL. Is it just me or does everything (obviously) in this look CGI'd, Gordon-Levitt included? It might be the contacts but knowing Zemeckis' past, JGL looks really weird and with everything having that glossy digital look, it's just weird.
I'm sure it'll be really tense with the 3D though.
A film taking place on buildings everyone knows are destroyed, so you can't even really pretend it's not CG or that he's in any kind of real danger. You can watch the real documentary and know it's real. Impossible with this. What an unimpressive film.

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012
I think in most cases it's just that good cg is cg you don't notice, and bad cg is cg you do notice.

Jewmanji
Dec 28, 2003
I think it's a number of things, beginning with VFX studios biting off more than they can chew, and your brain inherently rejecting things it knows can't be real. But one thing I haven't heard mentioned is that use of dramatic camera angles in all of these shots- dramatic swooping aerial shots as if you're an omniscient observer. I think one of Godzilla's strengths was making an enormous amount of the CGI appear from on-the-ground POV, which was a much more convincing way to imagine seeing all of these things. I don't think it's a subtle difference either.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006


Why is the soundtrack for The Social Network playing over my awesome disaster movie.

What a terrible choice for music.

twoot
Oct 29, 2012

Kush posted:

This looks like some studio head wanted a movie-length version of the Los Angeles' death scene from Emmerich's 2012. Even the effects look as convincing, which brings me to my rant; has the progress of CGI stagnated and gotten lazier these past years or am I just taking poo poo for granted nowadays? I can spot a digital background on almost any movie these days, unrealistic and unconvincing CGI everywhere.
Yeah, in theory it is awesome to see cities crumble and of course CGI is the way to go if you want to showcase massive destruction but in practise it looks like a soulless videogame cutscene with plastic looking buildings, water that doesn't act like water does, debris that somehow just screams "programmed to move like this".
It's hard to explain but there's always a little something to throw me off. Of course I'll enjoy a good mindless destruction as much as the next guy but there's always the awareness that I am watching something that hasn't actually ever been "natural" or concrete. I get more out of the White House explosion in 'Independence Day' than the White House explosions in 'White House Down'. The gently caress is this madness?

I think directors are having longer CG shots with more complex camera movements. A long pan of a CG landscape gives your eye lots of time to pick up on the fakeness, when several years ago the CG shots would be shorter with a fixed camera and used more sparingly. This is a major problem with The Hobbit films for me, so much of it looks like a videogame cutscene - the CG Dol Guldur shots are pretty bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQNe0DmSDdc

The CG does not hold up when you cut from those great practical sets to a long shot which looks like it was rushed for time.

Ave Azaria
Oct 4, 2010

by Lowtax

I thought we had exorcised our lust for 9/11 porn by now?
One thing that can make these kind of disaster movies feel more personal is giving some focus to rescue efforts and relief. A lot are simply about the Chosen Ones escaping, sorry losers! Or, at best, rescuing people they're directly related to.
Pushing the protagonists to help total strangers is probably one of the most powerful things you can do with this kind of film scenario. Nobody ever does.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
I think I said this exact same thing when they put him in Hercules but I wish they didn't keep casting Dwayne Johnson in roles like this. Dude is at his best when he has room to let his charisma shine and yet here he's basically going to be John Cusack's 2012 character and spend a movie gawping and reacting.

LaughMyselfTo
Nov 15, 2012

by XyloJW

Pierson posted:

I think I said this exact same thing when they put him in Hercules but I wish they didn't keep casting Dwayne Johnson in roles like this. Dude is at his best when he has room to let his charisma shine and yet here he's basically going to be John Cusack's 2012 character and spend a movie gawping and reacting.

The Rock in a Jingle All The Way remake?

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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FCKGW posted:

Why is the soundtrack for The Social Network playing over my awesome disaster movie.

What a terrible choice for music.

A lot of trailers are doing this now. Taking a popular song, making a slow, depressing version of it, and then slapping it on a trailer for "irony".

Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. Doesn't work here at all.

Ave Azaria
Oct 4, 2010

by Lowtax
Aaaa liiiiiittllllleeee bbiiiittt oooffff Mmmmooonnnniiicccaaa iiinnn mmmyyy llliiiiffffeeee

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Ave Azaria posted:

I thought we had exorcised our lust for 9/11 porn by now?

You can't really call it 9/11 porn when disaster movies have cycled in and out of fashion across the entire existence of Hollywood. They were making them before you were born and they'll be making them long after you're dead.

For comparison, here's the trailer to Earthquake (in Sensaround!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_BwX2fEUTo

Earthquake was a pile of turgid poo poo, and I can't tell if San Andreas will really be any better. Edit: Actually, no, it can't be better because at least Earthquake gave us the ride and special effects demonstration at Universal Studios. With San Andreas being all CGI we can't even get that.

Random Stranger fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Dec 10, 2014

Ave Azaria
Oct 4, 2010

by Lowtax

Random Stranger posted:

You can't really call it 9/11 porn when disaster movies have cycled in and out of fashion across the entire existence of Hollywood. They were making them before you were born and they'll be making them long after you're dead.
Sure, but for example, I watched The Towering Inferno recently, and the deaths in that movie aren't massive and hidden inside crumbling buildings. The main characters' travails are given most of the focus, sure, but there's a lot of time devoted to the safety of the masses, as well.

These modern movies deliberately invoke 9/11. You're supposed to watch buildings topple and have no idea how to even begin estimating the number of people inside.

Edit: Woah, that Earthquake trailer is kinda brutal. I think they expected people to be really shocked by that, though. Do modern disaster films show falling bodies?

Ave Azaria fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Dec 10, 2014

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Ave Azaria posted:

Edit: Woah, that Earthquake trailer is kinda brutal. I think they expected people to be really shocked by that, though. Do modern disaster films show falling bodies?

Man Of Steel had people being levitated into the air and then dropped by the Kryptonian gravity hammer, so, yeah.

Ave Azaria
Oct 4, 2010

by Lowtax

Young Freud posted:

Man Of Steel had people being levitated into the air and then dropped by the Kryptonian gravity hammer, so, yeah.
I forgot about that part, though I do remember a poo poo ton of buildings crumbling, filmed exactly as though they were abandoned, only they definitely weren't. That's the weird thing about these movies. They take shortcuts to higher body counts. But it's filmed so impersonally, it feels like a statistic, not a tragedy.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Ave Azaria posted:

Sure, but for example, I watched The Towering Inferno recently, and the deaths in that movie aren't massive and hidden inside crumbling buildings. The main characters' travails are given most of the focus, sure, but there's a lot of time devoted to the safety of the masses, as well.

These modern movies deliberately invoke 9/11. You're supposed to watch buildings topple and have no idea how to even begin estimating the number of people inside.

I agree that there's some definite attempts to connect the imagery, but I think that just comes from how it's the most dramatic disaster that most Americans can connect with. The bloodless mass destruction where there should be body counts in the hundreds of thousands and we're not supposed to think about that, IMO, comes from the nature of using CGI for special effects. It's easy now to throw around massive, city leveling disasters and they have to keep them PG-13.

Ave Azaria posted:

Edit: Woah, that Earthquake trailer is kinda brutal. I think they expected people to be really shocked by that, though.

FWIW, you've now seen pretty much every good stunt and model effect in the movie. The entire film is over two hours long.

If you've ever been to Universal Studios Florida, they used that falling scene are part of the special effects demonstration using "volunteers" from the audience (the one making the dramatic fall to scare the audience being a stunt man plant).

Random Stranger fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Dec 10, 2014

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Random Stranger posted:

I agree that there's some definite attempts to connect the imagery, but I think that just comes from how it's the most dramatic disaster that most Americans can connect with. The bloodless mass destruction where there should be body counts in the hundreds of thousands and we're not supposed to think about that, IMO, comes from the nature of using CGI for special effects. It's easy now to throw around massive, city leveling disasters and they have to keep them PG-13.

Of course, keeping things with CGI and at PG-13, you can still get some surprising visceral shots. I had this scene from Transformers IV brought to my attention yesterday...

I, Butthole
Jun 30, 2007

Begin the operations of the gas chambers, gas schools, gas universities, gas libraries, gas museums, gas dance halls, and gas threads, etcetera.
I DEMAND IT

Ave Azaria posted:

Edit: Woah, that Earthquake trailer is kinda brutal. I think they expected people to be really shocked by that, though. Do modern disaster films show falling bodies?

No one wants to go too far into 9/11 comparisons.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Young Freud posted:

Of course, keeping things with CGI and at PG-13, you can still get some surprising visceral shots. I had this scene from Transformers IV brought to my attention yesterday...



And lest we forget:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ets2KtNYiis

(:47)

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006

CelticPredator posted:

A lot of trailers are doing this now. Taking a popular song, making a slow, depressing version of it, and then slapping it on a trailer for "irony".

Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. Doesn't work here at all.

How do we tell if it works or not?

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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http://youtu.be/bSX2oxLdcWA?t=1m21s

(the trailer was cool, at least)

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
To be fair it's hard to gently caress up Seven Nation Army although they tried real hard.

Also that trailer just makes me think "they gave the white house googly eyes".

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Hah, now I can't not see it.

Another fad I do like, speaking of the Seven Nation Army stuff is the recent obsession with The Glitch Mob. Some of their stuff is prime trailer music.
http://youtu.be/JerVrbLldXw?t=2m

http://youtu.be/FpKPiHYJc54?t=1m6s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqRRF5y94uE

http://youtu.be/AQESS9RPijI?t=1m15s

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW2qxFkcLM0

Disaster movies just need to embrace how to make a proper trailer.

BlueBayou
Jan 16, 2008
Before she mends must sicken worse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MC3XuMvsDI

Looks great

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smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Kush posted:

I can spot a digital background on almost any movie these days, unrealistic and unconvincing CGI everywhere.

There's so much CG in everything nowadays. All over network TV too, just for mundane background replacements. Or almost any car commercial is going to use faked cars.

So for every shot you notice that sucks, there are probably ten you'd be surprised are CG.

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