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It all makes sense in the context of the actual situation in the country where the warriors the Jedi were modeled after actually existed. Jedi Gokus are stupid prequel horseshit.
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kingcom posted:Yeah sure, even if your going out as a pretty good guy sith your inevitably going to gently caress up and have things fall down around you. I'm not sure where the KOTOR is wrong part is fitting in though? I've never played the games it's just, it sounds like the whole thing is "HEH, light side, dark side, can't you just see how wrong that is maaan" when all along the light side really just means 'balance,' ying/yang (or light and dark if you prefer) working together and 'dark side' virtually means just loving up
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I always just assumed the balance to the force was that everyone who used the force except Luke was dead and Luke was still really raw and untrained so he wasn't all that terrible light or dark side or whatever and just used the force as felt natural to him.
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balance to the force was Kyle Katarn force lightning-ing every loving stormtrooper who pissed him off and then using force heal to patch up his wounds.
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Harime Nui posted:I've never played the games it's just, it sounds like the whole thing is "HEH, light side, dark side, can't you just see how wrong that is maaan" when all along the light side really just means 'balance,' ying/yang (or light and dark if you prefer) working together and 'dark side' virtually means just loving up Thats KOTOR 2 not 1, KOTOR 2 is made by Obisidian and its less cant you see how its all wrong and more: people have been fighting over this light and dark side bullshit for 1000s of years and murdering millions of people who have no stake in any of it. Seems like if this is the 'will of the force' then the force is acting more like a malevolent being than anything you should be listening to.
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Thank you, Sheev.
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Woolie Wool posted:Are you kidding? Lando Calrissian probably gets more pussy than the Humane Society. No that would be his constantly aroused second cousin, Rando Calrissian (I know we already used that for the objectivist one, sorry.) Can Sith people use names of previous Sith they respect, like how Popes do it? Darth Revan XXIII, Darth Sion VII, Darth Sidious IX?
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Kreia's beef with the Force in KOTOR 2 isn't really about the Force as it is about Fate. She wants to kill Fate because she cannot stand the idea of being enslaved to some higher power. In that way, she embraces the Dark Side sense of freedom from responsibilities, but she doesn't follow the Dark Side's dogmatic code either. Basically, Kreia wants to kill the driving force behind the majority of human storytelling.
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Lando's so called lady skills were a complete failure in TESB. He hits on Leia non stop and he doesn't get anywhere. Other than that, he had no ladies. Were there any other women in Cloud City?
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redshirt posted:Lando's so called lady skills were a complete failure in TESB. He hits on Leia non stop and he doesn't get anywhere. He didn't have a chance to bring out the Blastech 44. It works every time.
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there's so much dumb eu bullshit that people believe that has no real basis in the films and comes purely from novels and video games and rpgs. like, lightsabers cutting through anything and everything. well, no. they're super sharp, sure, but go back and watch some fights. they bounce off railings and luke hits vader's arm without cutting it off in ESB. we see them cut through limbs and metal but there's always a powerful blow behind it. and virtually everything about the force and jedi, really.
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Milky Moor posted:there's so much dumb eu bullshit that people believe that has no real basis in the films and comes purely from novels and video games and rpgs. they also melt through blast doors
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There's the whole power crystal thing where green/blue/purple signify different things about the Jedi's personality and assembling one's lightsaber being every Jedi's personal coming-of-age ceremony and agh god how do I remember all this poo poo after 17 years 
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i have the book 'Lightsabers' signed by kevin j anderson lol E: and his wife too actually
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Arcsquad12 posted:Kreia's beef with the Force in KOTOR 2 isn't really about the Force as it is about Fate. She wants to kill Fate because she cannot stand the idea of being enslaved to some higher power. In that way, she embraces the Dark Side sense of freedom from responsibilities, but she doesn't follow the Dark Side's dogmatic code either. Fetus Tree posted:i have the book 'Lightsabers' signed by kevin j anderson  >
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Fetus Tree posted:they also melt through blast doors in the prequels i should have specified the OT
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Dilithium deposits were more common in the galactic core back then. Really easy to find a highly concentrated source. 
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Arcsquad12 posted:Kreia's beef with the Force in KOTOR 2 isn't really about the Force as it is about Fate. She wants to kill Fate because she cannot stand the idea of being enslaved to some higher power. In that way, she embraces the Dark Side sense of freedom from responsibilities, but she doesn't follow the Dark Side's dogmatic code either. So she's an Objectivist then.  Even plain old FYGM is automatically an infinitely better characterization than any canon villain.
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Young Freud posted:He didn't have a chance to bring out the Blastech 44. It works every time. 
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Sombrerotron posted:I hope you're proud of yourself! < I did think it was pretty cool bc I liked those books, I was reading that series as each one came out and really enjoyed it back in the day. In retrospect its whatever but they were enjoyable for a kid that just wanted star wars things to read
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Arcsquad12 posted:Kreia's beef with the Force in KOTOR 2 isn't really about the Force as it is about Fate. She wants to kill Fate because she cannot stand the idea of being enslaved to some higher power. In that way, she embraces the Dark Side sense of freedom from responsibilities, but she doesn't follow the Dark Side's dogmatic code either. rando calrissian should have been in KOTOR 2 as lando's ancestor who gives long, unskippable speeches about kreia's genius
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Woolie Wool posted:So she's an Objectivist then. Essentially, not a bad villain honestly as its sold to the player pretty well since shes your party member helping you out for 90% of the game. Harime Nui posted:There's the whole power crystal thing where green/blue/purple signify different things about the Jedi's personality and assembling one's lightsaber being every Jedi's personal coming-of-age ceremony and agh god how do I remember all this poo poo after 17 years Thats definitely the stupidest thing that for some reason i cant get over. Particularly as it mean't that if your a bad person you use a red lightsaber as opposed to just being one that vader had from when he was a jedi. ThePutty posted:rando calrissian should have been in KOTOR 2 as lando's ancestor who gives long, unskippable speeches about kreia's genius  I think you just justified all your postings.
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Woolie Wool posted:You're not building a balanced mission around a 17.6km warship, no matter how good the engine is--it's either going to be an I Win button or an under-gunned piece of poo poo. You'd need a game on a much, much larger scale than a space fighter sim. I meant in empire at war, not x wing vs tie fighter. quote:All those random Jedi survivors and bullshit secret apprentices and Emperor's Hands and Jerec can all go gently caress themselves.  quote:No, no, you see, Luke Skywalker swinging the lightsaber like a baseball bat is actually a classic example of the Wailing Jizz-Box form and not because Mark Hamill doesn't know anything about swordfighting because code: because of course it is wapanese.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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hey man, empire at war is some serious poo poo
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im permabanned poster wompastompa77
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...of SCIENCE! posted:im permabanned poster wompastompa77 lol'd irl E: isnt there actually a poster here named wampastompa too
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hello I am darth badguy but I'm not the bad guy, that's count goodguy see this is really clever because
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the jedi in the prequels dont seem very balanced to me, they were basically a bunch of spergs who were so disconnected from their surroundings that even with their magical prediction powers they couldnt tell they were being fooled by some old idiot right under their noses. maybe the truth is in the middle when it comes to the force
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Kreia can come off a little South Park sometimes - both sides suck! - but if you read the game as a whole, it tells a bit more of a story. The worst EU content absolutely must be the kinect dance game - check out their take on the ROTJ Death Star II throne room confrontation. Watch for the emperor's intro around 2:00 in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84YXPw4htnQ Edit: the emperor's unblinking stare is kind of out there
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gohuskies posted:Kreia can come off a little South Park sometimes - both sides suck! - but if you read the game as a whole, it tells a bit more of a story. It turns out there are only 3 canon sources in Star Wars now - the movies, the tv series, and the Kinect Dance game. The villain in Episode 7 is going to be the random jedi guy who beat the Emperor in a dance-off and is now ruler of the Empire.
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babypolis posted:the jedi in the prequels dont seem very balanced to me, they were basically a bunch of spergs who were so disconnected from their surroundings that even with their magical prediction powers they couldnt tell they were being fooled by some old idiot right under their noses. maybe the truth is in the middle when it comes to the force yeah that was kind of the point, they moved away from being war like, and changed their light saber saber styles to be non fatal, and they only left when called on to be mediators for the most part for a long time. It'd be like taking a budist monk and then flying him to the white house every time you needed a peace treaty or tax policy mediated.
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I like how the voor-kan poo-tang or whatever are literally the dark elder except somehow gayer.
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gohuskies posted:The worst EU content absolutely must be the kinect dance game Eh, I can forgive that - it's a dance game, it's supposed to be light and silly. All the really terrible stuff in the EU comes from stupid stuff being presented as deadly serious and dramatic. Oh, I just remembered the thing I hate most in the EU - the way that Karen Traviss glories in the deaths of Jedi. In a book set during Order 66, she kills off a protagonist who comes across a clone trooper confronting a bunch of padawans (i.e. teenage Jedi). She throws herself forward to take the blow for ... the clone trooper. Yes, the genocidal adult soldier deserves more of our sympathy than the children who were taken from their families as infants to be raised in a strict religious group and are now defending themselves from being genocided. 
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kotor ii owns if for no other reason than it's planescape torment in space
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Hellsau posted:It turns out there are only 3 canon sources in Star Wars now - the movies, the tv series, and the Kinect Dance game. The villain in Episode 7 is going to be the random jedi guy who beat the Emperor in a dance-off and is now ruler of the Empire. They should have rolled out that video for the ep 7 trailer
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ThePutty posted:it's a good thing the new movies are going to kill the EU forever The EU will be back, and in greater numbers.
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Ivor Biggun posted:The EU will be back, and in greater numbers. Disney might exert a modicum of control and consistency though
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