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Shaggar posted:i sometimes think it would be fun to do community training things where u and other local coders get 2gether and talk about why maven owns and how to use it or why p-langs are poo poo for idiots. like professional to professional type deals. like maybe u could even form a guild to keep the plangers out of everyones hair. the p-langers just woulnd't come
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there's actually quite a bit of manufacturing here too because the southern rail lines went as far as sarasota forever and you have easy access to the gulf but that's not really my field
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the p-langers just woulnd't come the hardcore p-langers are beyond help but you could save recent grads or willing converts.
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guys this is the hideout for programmers that are terrible, not the hideout that is terrible
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bobbilljim posted:guys this is the hideout for programmers that are terrible, not the hideout that is terrible why not both
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bobbilljim posted:guys this is the hideout for programmers sure bobbilljim posted:not the hideout that is terrible how do you have the first without the second
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Shaggar posted:the hardcore p-langers are beyond help shaggar was right Shaggar posted:but you could save recent grads or willing converts. i hope shaggar is right 
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i donwloaded some random code from teh internet that enables teh flash memory controller, compiled it for my embedded platform and ran it. but it seems that it activated teh wrong flash controller. given that the controller id is wrong, should i change the controller id to the right one and just see if it works, or do you think this might brick the flash if i give it right controller + potentially wrong other values? tia
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lol page 255. i got teh actual values, crisis averted. except now it doesnt recognise the mtd partitions on the nand for some reason.
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finally got round to trying intellij and holy poo poo this owns and I am never going to touch eclipse again if I can help it I believe this may make yet another subject on which shaggar was right? idk I've forgotten to keep everyone's opinions up to date in yospos.xlsm
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Shaggar posted:i do not like intellij ah hell who cares, youre right anyway i dont dislike intellij, but dont see why its so great
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gently caress I knew I'd get it wrong
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it's good though, like it actually handles nullability in the standard library so you can return StringBuilder.toString() from a @nonnull method without getting a dumb warning like in eclipse
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only 90s kids will remember this one lovely ide
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Soricidus posted:StringBuilder lol
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pram posted:only 90s kids will remember this one lovely ide vim?
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Luigi Thirty posted:vim? try 60s kids, and they barely remember it ok i was joking about 60s but wow it really was released in the 90s huh 
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word perfect
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:you of all people should be able to knock up good odds of whether you'll still have a job post-bubble Yeah I should be able to survive a while, but I'm not super aware of how things work at parent company Salesforce (which is alto B2B but super loving huge compared to Heroku), so I'm guessing in the grand scheme of thing, smaller divisions have been closed for far less. My hope at that point (if it goes there) would be to hop on the cronyism train and find another job from a friend in a different sector of the industry that's not hit as bad. Also I just came back home from a local user group and I had to repeat to someone many times that even if he uses MD5 2-3 times over a password that's still not good enough  (also I don't want to start passwordchat)
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MononcQc posted:Yeah I should be able to survive a while, but I'm not super aware of how things work at parent company Salesforce (which is alto B2B but super loving huge compared to Heroku), so I'm guessing in the grand scheme of thing, smaller divisions have been closed for far less. i forgot heroku got bought by salesforce. they're an enterprise saas behemoth with lovely paas dreams they can never realize. you're loving golden. worst case scenario: bad raise best case scenario: heroku replaces whatever their current lovely paas dream involves
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i forgot heroku got bought by salesforce. they're an enterprise saas behemoth with lovely paas dreams they can never realize. you're loving golden. Eeeh, I've seen it happen so often in corporations 'round here to just go "yeah your division's earning money, but we're just restructuring and it no longer fits the vision" and then they shut it down. Granted it's more often factories, but I don't tend to trust the safety of large employers that much when you're not their core business.
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OK so I'm maintaining some old asp.net web forms (ugh) and some of the poo poo is honestly just making me go WTf. I realize we learn lessons as we go but some poo poo makes me cringe. Code behind calling stored procs. By passing an enum with the literal string for the name of the sproc to a thing that returns a datatable, not a biz object. Called dt, of course. What the gently caress? Why even have a type system and do this in C#?
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MononcQc posted:Eeeh, I've seen it happen so often in corporations 'round here to just go "yeah your division's earning money, but we're just restructuring and it no longer fits the vision" and then they shut it down. Granted it's more often factories, but I don't tend to trust the safety of large employers that much when you're not their core business. salesforce fantasizes that PaaS is their core business it's not, but you can't tell them that
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:salesforce fantasizes that PaaS is their core business Yeah I won't 
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One really cool thing that's really easy to overlook is how mobile a skill programming is. Yeah, the US (and maybe western Europe?) are a bit saturated with laundry pickup apps at the moment, but there's a pretty huge-ish chunk of the rest of the world whose networked services needs are not being met. So, even if the US goes pear shaped you can always pick up a copy of Pimsleur's Spanish and head to Chile. 
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Stringent posted:One really cool thing that's really easy to overlook is how mobile a skill programming is. Yeah, the US (and maybe western Europe?) are a bit saturated with laundry pickup apps at the moment, but there's a pretty huge-ish chunk of the rest of the world whose networked services needs are not being met. So, even if the US goes pear shaped you can always pick up a copy of Pimsleur's Spanish and head to Chile. Argentina cool too?
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Well, let's see, they're primarily known for beef and wine production, so...
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Stringent posted:Well, let's see, they're primarily known for beef and wine production, so... OH poo poo I THOUGHT OF A GOOD QUESTION  Character sets in nations where é isn't rare: what do they use?
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pram posted:move to uragay i'm already there son, i am already there
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Space Whale posted:OH poo poo I THOUGHT OF A GOOD QUESTION Formerly ISO-8859-1 or some latin1 subset, now Unicode.
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Space Whale posted:Argentina cool too? argentina lol
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Stringent posted:One really cool thing that's really easy to overlook is how mobile a skill programming is. Yeah, the US (and maybe western Europe?) are a bit saturated with laundry pickup apps at the moment, but there's a pretty huge-ish chunk of the rest of the world whose networked services needs are not being met. So, even if the US goes pear shaped you can always pick up a copy of Pimsleur's Spanish and head to Chile. chile has approximately the gdp of louisiana, with a pitiful fraction of the consumer spending per capita. for perspective, louisiana spends more than half as much money per capita in tax dollars alone as chile has total consumer spending can you imagine building a consumer-facing application that could, for example, only be useful to louisiana state and local government employees? that's the market size you're targeting.
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pundits love to talk about opportunities in emerging markets, but the truth is, if there's a special niche opportunity in chile, it's gonna be exploited by a chilean. you're not gonna pay u.s. salaries or earn american venture capital returns targeting consumer niches in chile the same is true if you plug in just about any other country name and demonym for "chile" and "chilean"
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Shaggar posted:i do not like intellij m2e is piss trash and intellij is much more maven friendly
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:you're not gonna pay u.s. salaries or earn american venture capital returns targeting consumer niches in chile Given the predicate for this whole discussion was a set of conditions in the US so horrendous that someone of MononcQc's caliber would be looking for work, I just figured that whatever wages a foreign expert could eek out wherever would be better than getting eaten by the poor in the US, ymmv.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:pundits love to talk about opportunities in emerging markets, but the truth is, if there's a special niche opportunity in chile, it's gonna be exploited by a chilean. NOT A poo poo POST: What's your purchasing power going to be like even if you don't get american wages? Doesn't money go further?
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