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Change the name to The Corral: Beating a dead horse with a broken stick and missing every time
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I need finals to get done so I stop posting in DnD as a way to procrastinate from studying
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Dec 10, 2014 19:59
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Jarmak posted:I need finals to get done so I stop posting in DnD as a way to procrastinate from studying this...but I need my boss to actually give me something to do. stupid holiday slow down.
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Dec 10, 2014 20:00
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ActusRhesus posted:I'm just amused by how many people think I'm a dude based on my posts, and the apparent privilege shown therein. I know I've mentioned this before but I honestly get shocked every time I see the amount of verbal abuse people give you. You explain yourself well and you're not saying things that are massively controversial but you constantly get blunt insults and mockery which usually get excused as "I was being hyperbolic, sorry you felt threatened" when someone calls them out. With Cole I can understand that reaction but you're just someone they disagree with which shouldn't invite that kind of language.
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Dec 10, 2014 20:09
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GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:I know I've mentioned this before but I honestly get shocked every time I see the amount of verbal abuse people give you. You explain yourself well and you're not saying things that are massively controversial but you constantly get blunt insults and mockery which usually get excused as "I was being hyperbolic, sorry you felt threatened" when someone calls them out. It's about ethics in online poo poo-posting. But yeah...I didn't think "people who commit murder should go to jail and victims have a right to be heard at sentencing" was very controversial seeing as all 50 states agree with me. ActusRhesus fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Dec 10, 2014 |
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Dec 10, 2014 20:10
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:DnD's problem as far as I see it is that I could go into a thread and just say "George W. Bush is a war criminal and we should drag him to the Hague in chains and if you disagree you're literally Hitler" and folks will cheerlead me on, but if you respond to me with "that's insane" folks dogpile you with "well where's your peer-reviewed study to show that it's insane? MLA-citations only please I was just asked to provide a citation to support my statement that victims, and those sympathetic to them, who lose faith in the justice system can resort to criminal behavior themselves. In the police reform thread. That has been discussing the Ferguson case.
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Dec 10, 2014 20:18
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". And then you get accused of trolling or derailing the thread by pointing out that what people are saying is insane.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:DnD's problem as far as I see it is that I could go into a thread and just say "George W. Bush is a war criminal and we should drag him to the Hague in chains and if you disagree you're literally Hitler" and folks will cheerlead me on, but if you respond to me with "that's insane" folks dogpile you with "well where's your peer-reviewed study to show that it's insane? MLA-citations only please To be fair this is what every place online with opinions is like. There's always a circlejerk, reinforcing the circlejerk is always okay, going against the circlejerk is really bad and one needs a lot of rhetorical support to not get accused of trolling. Then if you do have lots of rhetorical support, you are of course also trolling anyway. My first probation here is from Games when I didn't have sufficient citations on my at the time highly controversial statement that maybe mass effect 3 wouldn't be good.
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Dec 10, 2014 20:18
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I think a lot of the problem is all the stormfront/freep/etc megathreads that a lot of people spend a lot of time in, looking at racists say dumb things and making fun of them (from behind a glass wall through which the racists can never respond, of course). They see racists saying things like "I think all niggers should die and also that my taxes should be lower" and rightfully think that's insanely hosed up. But then they see other people say "I think my taxes should be lower" and because they lack the critical thinking skills necessary to separate the ideas, they start shouting RACIST RACIST RACIST.
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Dec 10, 2014 20:21
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Fister Roboto posted:I think a lot of the problem is all the stormfront/freep/etc megathreads that a lot of people spend a lot of time in, looking at racists say dumb things and making fun of them (from behind a glass wall through which the racists can never respond, of course). They see racists saying things like "I think all niggers should die and also that my taxes should be lower" and rightfully think that's insanely hosed up. But then they see other people say "I think my taxes should be lower" and because they lack the critical thinking skills necessary to separate the ideas, they start shouting RACIST RACIST RACIST. Pretty much. They seem to be having a very hard time understanding that I can be at the same time in favor of long prison terms for first degree murder, AND opposed to prison shower rape.
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Dec 10, 2014 20:24
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Oh yeah and at some point "HEH I guess the truth is somewhere in the middle???  " became a meme and now the truth can never, ever be in the middle, because South Park.
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Dec 10, 2014 20:26
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Fister Roboto posted:Oh yeah and at some point "HEH I guess the truth is somewhere in the middle??? Except for...you know...all those times when it actually is. Which is almost always.
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Dec 10, 2014 20:29
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My political views are mostly centrist. According to D&D I don't exist. Have I been...othered?!
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Dec 10, 2014 20:34
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Despite some attempts to destroy them completely there still are pretty decent safety nets in this country, plus charities. Therefore if I catch you stealing my stuff something bad is going to happen to you because you're not going to have a good enough reason. I love it when TCC idiots justify stealing because someone is going through withdrawal.
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Dec 10, 2014 20:34
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ActusRhesus posted:Except for...you know...all those times when it actually is. Except when it isn't. Which on the internet is a lot of the time, on account of a lot of people actually being that loving racist/stupid/biased.  quote:My political views are mostly centrist. According to D&D I don't exist. No, you're just trolling both sides equally quote:I love it when TCC idiots justify stealing because someone is going through withdrawal. Explaining does not equal Excusing. Although trying to figure out whether the OP or following posters understand the difference is always hard to ascertain, and the threads tend to go to poo poo over it. Courthouse fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Dec 10, 2014 |
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Dec 10, 2014 20:37
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Vasudus posted:My political views are mostly centrist. According to D&D I don't exist. To be centrist, you have to acknowledge the validity of something other than the preferred extreme. Therefore, Hitler.
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Dec 10, 2014 20:41
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In actual news as opposed to the DnD discussion section, there's a woman in Kabul with a death wish. Also Supreme Group just got taken to the cleaners by the government for fraud regarding food/fuel/other logistics support poo poo in Afghanistan...total penalties are a little under half a billion dollars. The whistleblower is getting $16M from the deal, which isn't too bad of a deal.
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Dec 10, 2014 20:48
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Courthouse posted:Explaining does not equal Excusing. Although trying to figure out whether the OP or following posters understand the difference is always hard to ascertain, and the threads tend to go to poo poo over it. I've got an idea for a safe place heroin addicts can go and get all the free heroin they want, the kicker is that the only way they're allowed to leave is in a body bag.
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Dec 10, 2014 20:48
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iyaayas01 posted:In actual news as opposed to the DnD discussion section, there's a woman in Kabul with a death wish. Seriously, the fashion police are going to lynch her for wearing vibrams.
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Dec 10, 2014 20:49
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Kabul SlutWalk turnout was light this year.
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Dec 10, 2014 20:55
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priznat posted:Kabul SlutWalk turnout was light this year. oh. snap.
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Dec 10, 2014 20:55
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:DnD's problem as far as I see it is that I could go into a thread and just say "George W. Bush is a war criminal and we should drag him to the Hague in chains and if you disagree you're literally Hitler" and folks will cheerlead me on, but if you respond to me with "that's insane" folks dogpile you with "well where's your peer-reviewed study to show that it's insane? MLA-citations only please solution: helldump DnD. make DnD posters only able to post there forever. this would gently caress over alot of gip but gently caress it, you willingly touch the poop.
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Dec 10, 2014 20:56
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In the 70s they had short skirts lol. Allah ackbar
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Dec 10, 2014 21:00
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Equine Don posted:In the 70s they had short skirts lol. Allah ackbar Kabul 1970:  I think this one is a nice metaphor for what's happened to Afghanistan: 
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Dec 10, 2014 21:06
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Equine Don posted:In the 70s they had short skirts lol. Allah ackbar   This was Russia's fault, right?
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Dec 10, 2014 21:06
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ActusRhesus posted:Pretty much. They seem to be having a very hard time understanding that I can be at the same time in favor of long prison terms for first degree murder, AND opposed to prison shower rape. when they aren't just flat out accusing you of whatever they want AreWeDrunkYet posted:Stop being so loving disingenuous. I clearly said "non-violent drug offenders", not "simple possession cases". in reference to this ActusRhesus posted:now where exactly did I say I supported no knock raids, and where exactly did I say I supported jail time for simple posession? Because I'm pretty sure I said the opposite of that. i have to stop myself every time a cruise ship thread comes up because i keep getting annoyed at people making up poo poo about them, for example that they discharge untreated sewage in port and use a cheap desalinator therefore you're drinking sewage but knowing how they actually work (not like i've actually worked on a cruise ship sewage plant and freshwater generator) makes me a shill, apparently
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Dec 10, 2014 21:22
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Fister Roboto posted:
I'm fairly certain the Taliban had at least a little something to do with it.
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Dec 10, 2014 21:28
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ActusRhesus posted:oh. snap. This is when you post 
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Dec 10, 2014 21:31
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tuluk posted:solution: helldump DnD. make DnD posters only able to post there forever. this would gently caress over alot of gip but gently caress it, DnD doesn't really get outside their forum much so that's not actually a problem. Every time they come in here trying to start poo poo it just fizzles out because nobody engages with it. Now lurkers complaining to mods about GiP behavior is apparently another story
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Dec 10, 2014 21:33
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GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:Now lurkers complaining to mods about GiP behavior is apparently another story They can come post or keep being report and run bitches.
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Dec 10, 2014 21:37
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I live next to a black family, a cop, white trash, and rich christians. I wish people would go outside and say hi to each other every once in a while like we do, but then they would have go outside and that's scary!
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Dec 10, 2014 21:41
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iyaayas01 posted:Also Supreme Group just got taken to the cleaners by the government for fraud regarding food/fuel/other logistics support poo poo in Afghanistan...total penalties are a little under half a billion dollars. The whistleblower is getting $16M from the deal, which isn't too bad of a deal. I take it back, there is some justice in the world.
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Dec 10, 2014 21:42
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Two Finger posted:when they aren't just flat out accusing you of whatever they want Actually, it was in reference to this: ActusRhesus posted:I buy that argument for the possession case, because I have sympathy for people with substance abuse issues and agree they are people we should be looking to rehabilitate. Not so much the dealer. If you make the decision to profit from illegal activity, then yeah...there are going to be consequences for that. I don't see how to read that quote as anything but arguing for prosecuting people for drug crimes. And she did it over and over, responding to arguments about drug prosecutions with comments about possession cases. AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Dec 10, 2014 |
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Dec 10, 2014 21:54
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Actually, it was in reference to this: The issue you're running into is when you say "non-violent drug offenders" people parse that as "possession" because thats what people are usually referring to when they use that term and they're giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're not a moron who thinks its wrong to prosecute people for running criminal enterprises.
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Dec 10, 2014 22:12
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:I don't see how to read that quote as anything but arguing for prosecuting people for drug crwe es. And she did it over and over, responding to arguments about drug prosecutions with comments about possession cases. The problem is that you were saying "Why do you want to send people to jail for non-violent drug offenses?" when you meant that you think every single non-violent drug offense is immoral to prosecute irrespective of drug, quantity, or intent to distribute. But the way you phrased it sounded like you're asking why she wants to send every single non-violent drug offender to jail... Which isn't the case, as she's reasonably explained a dozen times now. You were asking about drug offenses as if they were a homogeneous category of crimes, but Actus Rhesus (and most other normal people) see possessing a joint as different from large scale heroin manufacture. You are bad at communicating.
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Dec 10, 2014 22:16
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Actually, it was in reference to this: i'll say it explicitly then i absolutely support prosecuting even low level drug dealers not so much for possession make of that whatever the gently caress you want
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Dec 10, 2014 22:20
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Dead Reckoning posted:The problem is that you were saying "Why do you want to send people to jail for non-violent drug offenses?" when you meant that you think every single non-violent drug offense is immoral to prosecute irrespective of drug, quantity, or intent to distribute. But the way you phrased it sounded like you're asking why she wants to send every single non-violent drug offender to jail... Which isn't the case, as she's reasonably explained a dozen times now. yeah but if this he took this into account his point would be pretty much null and void i also support legalisation because all having them be illegal do is pushing money into the hands of the gangs see why new zealand has major gang presences, because basically everyone smokes pot which they can't buy legally
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Dec 10, 2014 22:22
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So basically the sentiment is "drugs should be legal, but as long as they aren't, gently caress it, might as well toss tens of thousands of petty criminals in prison"?
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Dec 10, 2014 22:34
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did you miss the part where i'm from new oh gently caress it i'm not doing this here this is the wrong place dude i don't know why you came in here after i quoted you but i really can't be bothered arguing this with you
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Dec 10, 2014 22:38
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Malala Yousafzai, the Pakistani lady who got shot in the head for promoting female education, got the Nobel peace price today. I wonder how long it will be before someone back in Pakistan blows the rest of her brains out. That country appears to have made a point out of assassinating their own best and brightest.
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Fister Roboto posted:[..bare-legged afghans..] Absolutely a tiny bit of it may be the literalist religious dudes' fault, but I don't want to sound like a racist or nothing AreWeDrunkYet posted:So basically the sentiment is "drugs should be legal, but as long as they aren't, gently caress it, might as well toss tens of thousands of petty criminals in prison"? Yes. The law is dumb, but until the democratic process has fixed it you should follow the law. It's not like you are Rosa Parks fighting for your human rights, lighting up a joint instead of (legally) boozing like an intelligent person. This is not rocket science. Once we have fixed the law everyone dumb enough to be breaking it would be released, but until then; follow the law numbskull. quote:Malala Yousafzai, the Pakistani lady who got shot in the head for promoting female education, got the Nobel peace price today. I wonder how long it will be before someone back in Pakistan blows the rest of her brains out. That country appears to have made a point out of assassinating their own best and brightest. Probably not too long. Best hope the whole martyr thing works as well for energizing the not-murderous rear end in a top hat part of the population as it does for the islamists. 
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