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Sober
Nov 19, 2011

First touch: Life.
Second touch: Dead again. Forever.

zoux posted:

Aw I was looking forward to that, do you have any of the reviews?
Sure. They're none too flattering but...

Yahoo TV
Variety
Grantland
Village Voice

I think critics got to see as many of 6 of the 10 episodes already for review.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Thanks, I guess :smith:

Sober
Nov 19, 2011

First touch: Life.
Second touch: Dead again. Forever.
I'll still watch it because the subject and period is interesting to me and I'll give it a shot but yeah, there's something to be said about business decisions getting in the way of making a show. This sounds like a GOT ripoff to the highest degree, possibly might even be worse than all the Lost-ripoffs we got in the span of 2006-2009 or so, where no one either on the business or creative side seems to understand why the show they're ripping off is good and just copy the wrong parts while skipping the ones that made it good.

It's beautifully shot though, apparently, even from the trailers alone.

DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Nobody likes you.
Everybody hates you.
You're gonna lose.

Smile, you fuck.

Sober posted:

OITNB, while obviously not Irish Joe's cup of tea, is probably the closest thing Netflix has to being actually 'good' at the moment. I haven't had the chance to watch Bojack Horseman yet. House of Cards though felt way to sterile most of the time and got boring to watch as Kevin Spacey just bulldozed over the competition (for the lack of a better word) like nothing. He had, what, 2 setbacks in all of the first season? That gets boring to watch. Apparently he just goes full supervillain in S2 and the show is not self-aware enough to realize it or something?

Kimmy Schmidt I'm banking on Fey knowing what she is doing, so I'm none too worried about it. Hopefully. I say this as a big fan of 30 Rock and her time on SNL.

And Marco Polo looks like it's getting poo poo on by critics for being too by-the-numbers and too much an attempt to grab GoT viewers. Apparently Marco Polo might be more of a business-led show than a creative one, and at least the critics can see the bullshit coming.

BoJack Horseman is great, but it's an outlier in terms of style. A friend of mine -- or maybe an article I can't find -- theorized that Netflix is trying the Tomato Sauce strategy of having a whole bunch of shows with unique flavors; something for everyone. BoJack, Orange is the New Black, House of Cards, Marco Polo...these shows don't share a lot of stylistic DNA. (The upcoming Bloodlines might find some common ground with House of Cards, but we'll see.)

The point is to get and keep subscribers of all kinds, and since Netflix isn't bound to timeslots, their room to play is only limited by their budget.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

DivisionPost posted:

their budget.

Which, we should remember, is stacked.

Spatula City
Oct 21, 2010

LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING
Well, Netflix is trying to produce all kinds of new content, so they do a prestige drama here, an anime there, a zeitgeist capturing dramedy there, a weird animated show there, a show for people that like Game of Thrones and historical epic fiction. Netflix has the ambition to go after ever conceivable demographic.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

They also have nearly perfect metrics on what their subscribers watch and rewatch and therefore will watch.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

zoux posted:

They also have nearly perfect metrics on what their subscribers watch and rewatch and therefore will watch.

Still waiting for the Pewdiepie-Maru cop show.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

Sober posted:

House of Cards though felt way to sterile most of the time and got boring to watch as Kevin Spacey just bulldozed over the competition (for the lack of a better word) like nothing. He had, what, 2 setbacks in all of the first season? That gets boring to watch. Apparently he just goes full supervillain in S2 and the show is not self-aware enough to realize it or something?


One issue with this is whenever underwood does experience a setback, it doesn't seem like it. Spacey makes a stern monologue at the camera, and he gives the impression that this is no big deal and everything is still under control.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Spatula City posted:

Well, Netflix is trying to produce all kinds of new content, so they do a prestige drama here, an anime there, a zeitgeist capturing dramedy there, a weird animated show there, a show for people that like Game of Thrones and historical epic fiction. Netflix has the ambition to go after ever conceivable demographic.

Quick, we need to be first to come up with a Skinemax-esque name for Netflix's softcore cable porn.

It can't be Netdix.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Maybe I'm weird but I like watching pure evil Kevin Spacey destroy the competition. It'll make it all the more satisfying when the whole thing comes crashing down around him. Almost like he's building some kind of...

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Regy Rusty posted:

Maybe I'm weird but I like watching pure evil Kevin Spacey destroy the competition. It'll make it all the more satisfying when the whole thing comes crashing down around him. Almost like he's building some kind of...

Well, unless they decide to go in a very different narrative direction from the novels or the BBC adaptation...

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

House of Cards is a solid B. Perfect on Showtime.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

It'll be ok. HBO had to Arli$$ before it could Sopranos.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

zoux posted:

It'll be ok. HBO had to Arli$$ before it could Sopranos.

It also had Oz and the Larry Sanders show. Nothing can excuse Arli$$

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

zoux posted:

It'll be ok. HBO had to First and 10 before it could Sopranos.

It also had Dream On.

MrBuddyLee
Aug 24, 2004
IN DEBUT, I SPEW!!!

Aphrodite posted:

Quick, we need to be first to come up with a Skinemax-esque name for Netflix's softcore cable porn.

It can't be Netdix.

Nipflix, obv

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006

Aphrodite posted:

Quick, we need to be first to come up with a Skinemax-esque name for Netflix's softcore cable porn.

It can't be Netdix.

Netfux would be the obvious choice.

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!
Nettitx?

Manos del Sino
Apr 12, 2004

Original Pony
Soiled Meat
It can't just be NetflixXx?

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006

Manos del Sino posted:

It can't just be NetflixXx?

That's not any different if you're saying it out loud

Celery Jello
Mar 21, 2005
Slippery Tilde
Mike Tyson Mysteries got renewed! I was kind of worried it wouldn't, because it is such a wonderful cocktail of highbrow and lowbrow weirdness that it could've easily just picked up no viewers.

Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax

Wandle Cax posted:

That's not any different if you're saying it out loud

Not if you wiggle your eyebrows when you say it.

DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Nobody likes you.
Everybody hates you.
You're gonna lose.

Smile, you fuck.
Your first official cast members for Fargo Season 2 are Jeffrey Donovan, Kirsten Dunst, and Jesse Plemons. Dunst and Plemons' characters are obviously big, but Donovan's role is likely a supporting one. The role of Lou Solverson is still open.

Nick Offerman has also been invited to jump aboard (not necessarily as the elder Solverson), but he's apparently still deciding.

Lugaloco
Jun 29, 2011

Ice to see you!

DivisionPost posted:


Nick Offerman has also been invited to jump aboard (not necessarily as the elder Solverson), but he's apparently still deciding.

It would be great to see him play something serious. Parks is done next year so hopefully he says yes.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

It's probably a comedic role like Key and Peele

timp
Sep 19, 2007

Everything is in my control
Lipstick Apathy

Mu Zeta posted:

It's probably a comedic role like Key and Peele

I'm hoping for something more along the lines of Glenn Howerton's role; comedic, with a few chances to do some heavier stuff.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Aphrodite posted:

Quick, we need to be first to come up with a Skinemax-esque name for Netflix's softcore cable porn.

It can't be Netdix.

Qwikster.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


zoux posted:

Netflix has a bold plan.


Good for them but since they've only had one unequivocally good show so far I'll guess we'll have to see.

They realize that is... a lot of shows, right? I don't know that this is going to work out for them.

Kaizoku posted:

Qwikster.

Wankster (by 50 CentTM)

Metropolis
Apr 6, 2006

Sober posted:

OITNB, while obviously not Irish Joe's cup of tea, is probably the closest thing Netflix has to being actually 'good' at the moment. I haven't had the chance to watch Bojack Horseman yet. House of Cards though felt way to sterile most of the time and got boring to watch as Kevin Spacey just bulldozed over the competition (for the lack of a better word) like nothing. He had, what, 2 setbacks in all of the first season? That gets boring to watch. Apparently he just goes full supervillain in S2 and the show is not self-aware enough to realize it or something?

While I agree the show's on the sterile side, and the main character is probably too competent and lucky with weak competition in the first two seasons. But the show is self-aware about how horrible of a person the main character is. But that doesn't necessarily mean all viewers will catch on. (See: Breaking Bad.) And as for the character having it too easy, I assume the show is called House of Cards for a reason and everything will start going to hell for him next season.

That being said it is sort of a boring show structure to have to wait so long for the protagonist to come into extreme trouble and take a real loss.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
hahaha Fargo season 2 already has True Detective beat on casting. Can't wait.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

The answer was Niteflix. You're all sick.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


DivisionPost posted:

Your first official cast members for Fargo Season 2 are Jeffrey Donovan, Kirsten Dunst, and Jesse Plemons. Dunst and Plemons' characters are obviously big, but Donovan's role is likely a supporting one. The role of Lou Solverson is still open.

Nick Offerman has also been invited to jump aboard (not necessarily as the elder Solverson), but he's apparently still deciding.
I'm not so sure about Kirsten Dunst. The last movie I liked her in was... Bring It On?

Baronash
Feb 29, 2012

So what do you want to be called?

Josh Lyman posted:

I'm not so sure about Kirsten Dunst. The last movie I liked her in was... Bring It On?

You need to watch Melancholia.

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006

Josh Lyman posted:

I'm not so sure about Kirsten Dunst. The last movie I liked her in was... Bring It On?

Someone hasn't seen Elizabethtown.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Hell the last movie I liked her in was Interview with a Vampire :smug:

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Wandle Cax posted:

Someone hasn't seen Elizabethtown.

I saw it. The Legolas shoe movie with the MPDG

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009

zoux posted:

Hell the last movie I liked her in was Interview with a Vampire :smug:

Aatrek parachute spotted.

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007



is Seinfeld on any streaming service?

just please tell me there is a way I can pay for this show that doesn't involve me fumbling around with 33 dvds

Aye Doc fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Dec 11, 2014

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Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


I signed up for a free month of Amazon Prime to get some holiday items shipped quickly. Are there any Amazon exclusives I should marathon?

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