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Himuro posted:You think season 2 sucks balls too? High five, other me. Just how many of you are there? Thirteen!
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BSam posted:Just how many of you are there? Cut off one head and two will shall take its place!
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Dec 10, 2014 23:51
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Himuro posted:I don't like season 2 of Agents of SHIELD so far. I think you might be accidentally watching another show and not realize it.
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Dec 10, 2014 23:52
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Himuro posted:I doubt it'll get better. The characters aren't even characters anymore. The character interaction of season 1? Gone. Skye is basically a non-character now. She hasn't hacked once this entire season and displays none of her past ideological underpinnings that made me like her. All she cares about is finding her dad and doing what Coulson says and being May-lite. I, too, find it reprehensible that they don't have Skye running around in wet low cut dresses anymore. Bring back the glory days of the first half of season one imo.
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Dec 10, 2014 23:59
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Himuro posted:I don't like season 2 of Agents of SHIELD so far. 13/10 
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Himuro posted:Skye is basically a non-character now. She hasn't hacked once this entire season Something about the way this is worded is really funny to me
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Dec 11, 2014 00:06
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That's because it's a really funny thing to say.
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XboxPants posted:If Mack comes back with "weirdness" that eventually lets him end up with cool powers then it's all worth it. Do we even know his full name yet? What is "Mack", even, first, last, nickname? It's a nickname, derived from his last name. His name is Alphonso Mackenzie. XboxPants posted:Also that preview showed more Absorbing Man with his wrecking ball, gently caress yesssss. CapnAndy posted:I think that was a clip from the original fight? It was very quick, but I think. This is correct. It was a clip from the original fight. greatn posted:Don't worry guys, BJ Britt will definitely return by Avengers 2, as evidenced by this blurry photo of the back of a black man from 500 yards away. Interestingly, he still could show up in the movie. Maria Hill knows him, and he might make a cameo where he interacts with her. It's highly doubtful, but possible. XboxPants posted:I've felt like he's been making the complete backwards conclusion the whole time, and I have to speak up. The problem here is that Marvel has said that, starting with Dr. Strange, they aren't doing Origin Story movies anymore. I'm thinking that the "origin story" from Dr. Strange onward will be like the one in The Incredible Hulk: A series of images/scenes that take place at the very beginning. Also, for those who don't understand why Trip died, allow myself to quote myself: Kheldarn posted:In the end, though, someone had to die, and it had to be someone who meant something to Daisy. Being that B.J. Britt is a main character on another show, on another network, his character was the logical conclusion. Basically, Trip is Daisy's Uncle Ben.
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Dec 11, 2014 00:32
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Himuro posted:I doubt it'll get better. The characters aren't even characters anymore. The character interaction of season 1? Gone. Skye is basically a non-character now. She hasn't hacked once this entire season and displays none of her past ideological underpinnings that made me like her. All she cares about is finding her dad and doing what Coulson says and being May-lite. For what it's worth, I agree. I've been trying to put my finger on what's missing from Season 2, and you nailed it. The dynamics of the original team added a lot to the show. In stark contrast, the current team is sort of all over the place. This is probably because season 1 started kinda slowly and the writers had a lot of time to develop the characters, whereas season 2 has been crisis-mode since episode 1 and the obelisk/inhumans plot seems to have dominated at the expense of story arcs involving team dynamics and cohesion. I think they had an interesting thing going with the mercenary trio in the first episode, and could have developed it further to explore what kinds of sacrifices in quality Coulson would have to make to boost SHIELD's numbers again. But they seem to have ditched that idea. As a totally separate note, I really hope they bring back the original actor that played Agent 33. Re-using May's actor makes it difficult for me to take the character seriously. ashpanash posted:The show you liked was a critical disaster, and it tanked in the ratings so much that it hurt the much more loved show that exists now. The show has changed, most everyone thinks for the better. Had the show you liked continued, it would have been cancelled anyway. This is true. I just hope that we see some serious character development for Hunter, Bobbi and Mack soon. Slow News Day fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Dec 11, 2014 |
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Kheldarn posted:
One thing is that I feel like they did not do an adequate job of tying Trip to Skye. They wasted time with Trip and Gemma and they should have been building the connection between him and Skye if that is what they wanted. enraged_camel posted:
I'm hoping Ward gets the mask off of her face as a way to further build trust but she is still scarred from it, assuming they are going the Madame Hydra route.
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Dec 11, 2014 00:39
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Well, the nazi/Whitehall storyline has gotten more interesting, and Ward and his brother storyline is pretty much the highlight of the show for me now. So those things are cool.
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We had a much-maligned, too slowly paced first season that mostly dealt with the dynamics and friendships of the original team. You know what we should do instead of pushing the plot forward in a second season that bends, tests, and ultimately relies on the dynamics from season 1? Rehash season 1. Check please.
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ToastyPotato posted:One thing is that I feel like they did not do an adequate job of tying Trip to Skye. They wasted time with Trip and Gemma and they should have been building the connection between him and Skye if that is what they wanted. I hope he doesn't because the ensuing dialogue when they realize that Ward is sleeping with Mayface would be hilarious.
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I think we'll see more of Whitehall. He didn't even attempt to defend himself when Cal was approaching him, and as someone with Hydra's resources he probably knows who Cal really is and what he is capable of. Which makes me think that stealing those organs gave him more than just a fountain of youth effect.
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enraged_camel posted:I think we'll see more of Whitehall. He didn't even attempt to defend himself when Cal was approaching him, and as someone with Hydra's resources he probably knows who Cal really is and what he is capable of. Which makes me think that stealing those organs gave him more than just a fountain of youth effect. Or assuming that was the only gifted person who stole body parts from all those years.
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mikeraskol posted:We had a much-maligned, too slowly paced first season that mostly dealt with the dynamics and friendships of the original team. I don't think they should have rehashed it, but plot at the expense of character development doesn't seem like a good thing to me considering character development was one of the best things about the first season. It's not an either or situation. Are you saying that it's impossible to have a strong plot without good character development, because that's what you seem to be hinting at. It feels like Coulson, Skye's dad, Fitz and Whitehall are the only ones getting any development here. More than that, I felt the comedy was one of the better parts of the first season, and it's noticeably absent here. I don't think there's anything wrong with mentioning how serious business season 2 is.
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Himuro posted:I don't think they should have rehashed it, but plot at the expense of character development doesn't seem like a good thing to me considering character development was one of the best things about the first season. It's not an either or situation. Are you saying that it's impossible to have a strong plot without good character development, because that's what you seem to be hinting at. It feels like Coulson, Skye's dad, Fitz and Whitehall are the only ones getting any development here. More than that, I felt the comedy was one of the better parts of the first season, and it's noticeably absent here. I don't think there's anything wrong with mentioning how serious business season 2 is. My thoughts exactly.
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I feel like the more plot focused nature of season 2 combined with the excellent character interaction and development of season 1 would make for high quality tv. Then again, I'm catching up and the past few episodes, noticeably episode 7, have been really good. So it seems to be getting a lot better. 
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enraged_camel posted:I think we'll see more of Whitehall. He didn't even attempt to defend himself when Cal was approaching him, and as someone with Hydra's resources he probably knows who Cal really is and what he is capable of. Which makes me think that stealing those organs gave him more than just a fountain of youth effect. You mean other than pulling a gun on him???
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Burning_Monk posted:You mean other than pulling a gun on him??? Also, don't forget that the very first thing he did was try to use his device on him.
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Himuro posted:I feel like the more plot focused nature of season 2 combined with the excellent character interaction and development of season 1 would make for high quality tv. Then again, I'm catching up and the past few episodes, noticeably episode 7, have been really good. So it seems to be getting a lot better. Season 2 is much better week by week viewing because of the numerous cliff-hangers, unified plot, and quicker pace. Ditching the case-of-the-week format since the Hydra turn in S1 is what saved the show. Yeah, losing some of the more tongue-in-cheek nods like Lola or Sam L finding the bus in ruins is a loss, but the higher quality of the plot and individual motivations assigned to the characters beyond "doing our job for SHIELD" has more than made up for it.
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Mack and Fitz was a way better dynamic than Fitz and Simmons, and Skye was such an unbearable character in season one I recall a tongue-in-cheek comment about the episode she spent in a coma being "her best performance yet."
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Emerson Cod posted:That final scene had some movie-level CG. I know that they don't have the budget to do that kind of stuff every week, but it was really well done. I kinda hope that they somehow work Blade and the Punisher into the tv show, since they have nothing lined up for the next 5 year or whatever and they now have the rights to them. Though the vampire thing might have run its course.
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The fire guy in s1 didn't get an explanation, Blizzard and Graviton were exploding science cases.
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Potsticker posted:The fire guy in s1 didn't get an explanation, Blizzard and Graviton were exploding science cases. Fire guy lived down-wind of a nuclear reactor.
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TheChad posted:Fire guy lived down-wind of a nuclear reactor. Oh, I don't remember that at all. I do remember he was called Scorch now, though.
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TheChad posted:Fire guy lived down-wind of a nuclear reactor. As a nuclear engineer I can't stop shaking my head. Then I remember Hulk's original origin story.
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Quite a lot of people got powers via attempts to replicate the Super Soldier Serum. That's what Centipede was.
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Potsticker posted:The fire guy in s1 didn't get an explanation, Blizzard and Graviton were exploding science cases. Most super villains are created that way, or they're carnies. Marvel loves its carnies. Phylodox posted:Confirmed, Koenig is a Doombot. DOOM Demands pretzels and scotch, and the Pixies Doolittle 
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Sammus posted:If the Absorbing Man got hosed up by touching the obelisk, does that mean that a lot of the people with powers running around aren't related to inhumane at all? How many ways are there for people to achieve super powers? In the Marvel universe, just being anywhere gives you a chance to get superpowers. Potsticker posted:The fire guy in s1 didn't get an explanation, Blizzard and Graviton were exploding science cases. It should be noted that comic book Blizzard is an Inhuman now. He used to get powers from a suit, now he has ice powers all the time. It would be funny if he gets flame powers, though.
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Pander posted:Did you watch Season 1 all in a row (netflix or what have you), or did you watch them week by week? I find that if you go all in a row, it's a lot easier to stomach. Week by week was torturous, so ponderously slow and formulaic. Yeah I marathoned season 1 on Netflix and loved every second of it. Season 2 was harder to stomach. The direction they're going in is sort of interesting, though, I'll give them that. Now that they've beaten Whitehall I'm sire there will be more character moments in the second half of the season.
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Sammus posted:If the Absorbing Man got hosed up by touching the obelisk, does that mean that a lot of the people with powers running around aren't related to inhumane at all? How many ways are there for people to achieve super powers? Absorbing man drank a magic potion...
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Tripp's not dead, he's just invisible. Skye was crying because she was always being told she was special and Tripp was just some random dude who wasn't even an orphan or anything and he got a better power than her. Tripp will continue to be in every episode, but he probably won't get many lines and will use his power a lot. If Ward is serious about getting together with Skye, he needs the DL on the face-changing technology Agent 33 used. Then he can re-infiltrate SHIELD, join Skye's team, and try to get her to fall in love with him while hoping to christ his disguise isn't compromised.
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Himuro posted:I don't like season 2 of Agents of SHIELD so far. Himuro isn't the poster this thread deserves, but he(?) is the poster it needs right now.  Also, is it just me or did the show just kind of drop Deathlok completely? Did they ever tie up his plot and I just missed/don't remember it?
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I've just been thinking, if I hadn't been reading this thread since the start of the first season, I would have no idea of the significance of the names 'Cal' or 'Daisy', I still wouldn't have heard of 'Inhumans' (aside from the movie title) or 'Terrigen', and I definitely wouldn't have a clue that there was more than one way to interpret the dog-shooting scene. I don't know if it's better one way or the other, just saying that to a casual watcher the show could be a very different experience.
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WarLocke posted:Himuro isn't the poster this thread deserves, but he(?) is the poster it needs right now. He basically went "Thanks for saving me and my son, you need anything lemme know. Alright, later" Then everything in season 2 happened, so understandably nobody cares that much about him when much more interesting plotlines are happening. EDIT: VVV is funnier than my post.
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WarLocke posted:Also, is it just me or did the show just kind of drop Deathlok completely? Did they ever tie up his plot and I just missed/don't remember it? He's out there somewhere in the LA Underground. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire Deathlok.
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