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I've come around on this whole thing. It never was a pure "sport" to begin with and if the UFC will stop pretending that's cool. Sprinkling in some funny fights, freakshows, celebrity MMA hobbyists etc. in there to boost ratings and generate interest is fine and if it bumps some TUF Brazil guy to Fight Pass who gives a gently caress.
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Guys who commentated legit sports couldn't find success with MMA, hell guys who commentate MMA full time aren't good at it but yes I'm sure the professional wrestler who pals around with a Gracie will be a great commentator.
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Dec 11, 2014 20:29
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Aesop Poprock posted:This really is pretty much the most ridiculous thing possible. Even the pride and dream freak shows usually involved guys with some sort of background in a martial art. Even Jose canseco had more of a fighting pedigree I hope CM Punk's MMA debut is as good as former NFL player Johnnie Morton. He had no fighting background and trained for only a couple of months before competing at Dynamite USA. He was knocked out cold in 38 seconds by a comedian and failed his pre-fight drug test with a T/E ratio of 84:1.
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Dec 11, 2014 20:31
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Goldie is a really big fan of the NFL, has worked NHL and college football games, therefore I expect him to be an excellent NFL announcer.
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Dec 11, 2014 20:33
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Guys who commentated legit sports couldn't find success with MMA, hell guys who commentate MMA full time aren't good at it but yes I'm sure the professional wrestler who pals around with a Gracie will be a great commentator. Based on the standard that no one is good it probably wouldn't be too hard to at least match it, but really at that point it generally shouldn't matter if everyone else sucks
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Dec 11, 2014 20:34
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Goldie is a really big fan of the NFL, has worked NHL and college football games, therefore I expect him to be an excellent NFL announcer. Luckily CM Punk would never lash out at fans on Twitter!
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Dec 11, 2014 20:36
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Goldie is a really big fan of the NFL, has worked NHL and college football games, therefore I expect him to be an excellent NFL announcer. Goldberg is 100% hate-able after that whole NFL diatribe (as if he wasn't already nearly there). He's a giant doufus man-baby. There are 0 redeeming qualities about the guy. gently caress it, throw Bill Goldberg in there and just call him Goldie as if nothing happened, instantly better product.
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Dec 11, 2014 20:38
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Goldie is a really big fan of the NFL, has worked NHL and college football games, therefore I expect him to be an excellent NFL announcer. Mma and pro wrestling are a lot more alike than football and mma. A lot of the time they're literally the same thing
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Dec 11, 2014 20:38
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Dec 11, 2014 20:39
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Could god crank a kimura so tight, even a Gracie would tap to it? makes u think
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Aesop Poprock posted:Could god crank a kimura so tight, even a Gracie would tap to it? makes u think Idk, but God can force a corner stoppage after 90 minutes of fighting
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Dec 11, 2014 20:43
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Aesop Poprock posted:Could god crank a kimura so tight, even a Gracie would tap to it? makes u think If Saku couldn't do it, God couldn't do it
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Idk, but God can force a corner stoppage after 90 minutes of fighting God works in mysterious ways
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Dec 11, 2014 20:46
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1st AD posted:Lol, so CM Punk isn't remotely a blue belt. He's trained infrequently with Rener. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwktfcmNKao This is what you have to do to get a blue belt from Rener these days, I guess.
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Dec 11, 2014 20:50
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Punk would be the best at fighting or commentating or whatever else he turns to with no training, of course.
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Aesop Poprock posted:Could god crank a kimura so tight, even a Gracie would tap to it? makes u think Your arms are too short to kimura god.
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Dec 11, 2014 20:59
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For all the poo poo the gracies get I have to give them respect because kimuras hurt really loving bad.
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He expended too much energy and got tired
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Dangersim posted:For all the poo poo the gracies get I have to give them respect because kimuras hurt really loving bad. I have news for you
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CM Punk will be the first person to actually die inside the Octagon. Vince McMahon will sit on his skull throne and tut tut.
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coconono posted:CM Punk will be the first person to actually die inside the Octagon. Vince McMahon will sit on his skull throne and tut tut. Joshie B is just jealous of the throne 
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Yuriy posted:Joshie B is just jealous of the throne He'll sit on it one day because he is the Warmaster and War is Ageless.
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coconono posted:CM Punk will be the first person to actually die inside the Octagon. Vince McMahon will sit on his skull throne and tut tut. He'll get Punk's skull for his own and place it inside the T-Rex head he has. e: missed a word in there. Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Dec 11, 2014 |
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Dec 11, 2014 22:19
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Viper_3000 posted:Again, your talking about a guy who nearly died from an undiagnosed MRSA infection, who's knees were trashed at the end of his pro-wrestling career from constant abuse, and who has been on the road 260+ days a year for the past 10+ years, 300+ days for the past 3. I don't think it's unreasonable for him to sit on a couch for half a year while he heals, gets married, figures out how best to make the transition, and waits for his legal matters to get settled. But it makes perfect sense for him to jump into a professional MMA fight after 3+ years of being on the road for 300+ days, having trashed knees and having spent the last year convalescing and not training the limited amount of experience that he does have.
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Admittedly, I don't know a thing about the UFC, but isn't it a huge liability for them to let a man with double-digit concussions and obliterated knees get into the octagon? I mean, obviously Punk wouldn't sue, but you'd think he'd have a very difficult time getting medically cleared to fight at all. eta: i am interested in watching a man die live on ppv however
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Puppy Doll posted:Admittedly, I don't know a thing about the UFC, but isn't it a huge liability for them to let a man with double-digit concussions and obliterated knees get into the octagon? I mean, obviously Punk wouldn't sue, but you'd think he'd have a very difficult time getting medically cleared to fight at all. Money to be made, let the man fight/ Die horribly chasing his dreams 15 years too late and far above his station even if he had started on time.
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Puppy Doll posted:Admittedly, I don't know a thing about the UFC, but isn't it a huge liability for them to let a man with double-digit concussions and obliterated knees get into the octagon? I mean, obviously Punk wouldn't sue, but you'd think he'd have a very difficult time getting medically cleared to fight at all. Yes it is a bad idea. No, he will be cleared. Getting fighters cleared is the easiest thing in the world as athletic commissions have no spine whatsoever, are corrupt as gently caress, and dumb as balls. This applies to boxing too. If you want MMA examples you can have the time Chael, after testing positive for about seventy drugs, was offered a job by the NSAC while appearing before them or when Alistair Overeem fled to Europe to avoid a drug test and when he came back said it was a misunderstanding or the time Vitor Belfort (a serial drug cheat who has been caught repeatedly for doping) appeared before them only a few months back and after having a previously suppressed file released on him, that he himself released to exonerate himself. revealing he'd been systematically blood doping (he tried to hide this by blacking out the blood results, except the columns for anomalies were in a different column to the total count and so rather then black out the entire line he only blacked out the ones that showed he failed) was immediately cleared to fight for a championship title with only one guy on the panel dissenting. He'll pass with flying colours, and they'll probably offer to blowjob him during it too. They essentially do that whenever Mayweather shows up.
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Perdido posted:But it makes perfect sense for him to jump into a professional MMA fight after 3+ years of being on the road for 300+ days, having trashed knees and having spent the last year convalescing and not training the limited amount of experience that he does have. Jesus Christ. The guy isn't fighting next month. More than likely we won't see him fight until October/November/December. Everyone makes it out to sound like he's going to be fighting in March. He's going to have close to a solid year of top tier professional coaching and training under his belt before he steps in the cage and he'll be facing a 1-0 or 0-0 guy. How many 0-0 or 1-0 guys are going to have the resources he has? The training team/coaches/camp that he'll have? How many will be able to devote their entire life to nothing but training and learning for the fight? Because that's what they're going to go up against in Punk. Would an extra 6 months of training help him? Absolutely, but I'm not going to fault the guy for taking some time to rehab his injuries and consider if he really wants to get in the cage or not. Is he going to embarrass himself? Probably. But it'll be an interesting fight purely to see what kind of outing someone who has that much money/time/dedication can have vs. someone with a more legit fighting background and not as many resources.
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I'll take a guy with a lovely camp who is working at GNC with actual fight & training experience over a guy with literally no experience whatsoever who gets to train at a high caliber place for a while.
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Dangersim posted:Which is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armlock#Kimura_.28Gyaku_ude-garami.29 The move comes from Judo and aquired the "Kimura" name in BJJ after Masahiko Kimura used it to beat up Helio.
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Lid posted:Yes it is a bad idea. All this on the heels of Punk publicly condemning how fast the WWE was to clear him after concussions. Obviously clearing someone hurt is different than clearing someone on a lot of drugs, but jeez. Talk about throwing rocks on your way to a shiny new glass penthouse.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armlock#Kimura_.28Gyaku_ude-garami.29 Yeah I know that, my point is that they get caught in them and don't tap like all the time.
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Dangersim posted:Yeah I know that, my point is that they get caught in them and don't tap like all the time. OK, yeah I see what you mean now. For some dumb reason my brain processed your post as thanking the gracies for inventing the kimura. Instead you're thanking the gracies for their dumb stupid brains which I'm totally down with.
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Puppy Doll posted:All this on the heels of Punk publicly condemning how fast the WWE was to clear him after concussions. Obviously clearing someone hurt is different than clearing someone on a lot of drugs, but jeez. Talk about throwing rocks on your way to a shiny new glass penthouse. Are we going to get into a "Wrestling/UFC is the scummiest" debate? Because wrestling wins by a country mile. Also Punk has a full blown MRSA that WWE refused to even acknowledge and he probably would have died from when he quit WWE.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Are we going to get into a "Wrestling/UFC is the scummiest" debate? Because wrestling wins by a country mile. I'm not disagreeing with that at all! I'm just saying it's bleakly hilarious that he left a scummy dude-fight organization for a less but still scummy dude-fight organization. Like cmon Punk why not take up competitive knitting instead. I'm sorry if I come across as BLEUGH PUNKS A DUMB IDIOT UFC BAD WRESTLES GOOD; like I said I honestly don't know that much about UFC.
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Personally if I was CM Punk I'd have indulged my passion for just about anything that didn't involve "getting hit in the head" for at least a year or two, but it's not my life, so good luck* to him I guess  *oh wait, that's for losers 
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Puppy Doll posted:All this on the heels of Punk publicly condemning how fast the WWE was to clear him after concussions. Obviously clearing someone hurt is different than clearing someone on a lot of drugs, but jeez. Talk about throwing rocks on your way to a shiny new glass penthouse. A commission isn't going to clear him to fight the very next night after a concussion. The WWE would demand that he go back out there and take a bunch of bumps the very next night. (A big no-no with concussions)That's the problem he had with the the WWE.
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Viper_3000 posted:Jesus Christ. The guy isn't fighting next month. More than likely we won't see him fight until October/November/December. Everyone makes it out to sound like he's going to be fighting in March. He's going to have close to a solid year of top tier professional coaching and training under his belt before he steps in the cage and he'll be facing a 1-0 or 0-0 guy. How many 0-0 or 1-0 guys are going to have the resources he has? The training team/coaches/camp that he'll have? How many will be able to devote their entire life to nothing but training and learning for the fight? Because that's what they're going to go up against in Punk. Would an extra 6 months of training help him? Absolutely, but I'm not going to fault the guy for taking some time to rehab his injuries and consider if he really wants to get in the cage or not. Yeah, I get that, but again, dude is gonna be 37 next year and has far less experience than your typical MMA dude. Most guys (I say this only because I don't have encyclopedic knowledge of every mixed martial artist) who are competing at the UFC level have competed in tournaments and competitions and have a lot more general experience of getting punched in the face or tossed into a guillotine. There's so much that he's going to have to learn and adjust and fix that I don't think "almost a year" is going to fix.
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Pretty sure if you get knocked out its an automatic 90 (?) day suspension which is supposed to include no sparring.
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I'm really glad someone made this thread so it didn't bleed over. 24 loving pages... Go to 6:23 to hear the only opinion you need on the situation. http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/12/11/7379215/nate-diaz-weighs-in-on-missing-open-workouts-ufc-uniforms-cm-punks
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