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zoux posted:I took that as more of a justification for why he's the Atom (see! he shrinks stuff! That's the connection!) than that he'd actually shrink. Just because what looks cool on the page doesn't necessarily translate to the screen. Yeah, they're clearly justifying him as "The Atom" right now by having him just use tiny military tech. They did lay the seeds for him to actually shrink in the future when he picked up that mine, though.
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I really hope Ray's suit doesn't look stupid when we actually see it outside of a goofy render.
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Dec 11, 2014 22:51
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Rhyno posted:I really hope Ray's suit doesn't look stupid when we actually see it outside of a goofy render. Arrow's costuming has been pretty great overall so I think he'll look kickass.  See: Slade Wilson.
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Dec 11, 2014 22:55
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Rhyno posted:I really hope Ray's suit doesn't look stupid when we actually see it outside of a goofy render. Well, it comes from the people who managed to make the goofiest concept in all of superhero costumes look good, so I would be confident.
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Dec 11, 2014 22:56
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That was amazing, I didn't expect Ras to just nonchalantly own Olliver like that. He beat him with one hand behind his back! So badass
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Dec 11, 2014 22:58
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The best part was the music cue that was all, "Now this is where Ollie turns the tables and -- oh."
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Dec 11, 2014 23:00
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imperialparadox posted:I sort of imagine Barry thinking that he could beat Ra's because he's fast, but Ra's using that against him by basically doing a move that causes Barry to impale himself. Mainly because Barry isn't a really great fighter, he's hella fast. Deathstroke did that to the Flash once In the comics. He had fought Wally so many times he knew what Wally's opening move would be striking him from behind so as soon as the Flash charged he moved his sword behind him and stabby times occured
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Dec 11, 2014 23:00
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TheChad posted:See: Slade Wilson. And Nyssa. The costume department does a really good job.
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Dec 11, 2014 23:01
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zoux posted:Also, I would've been like "Hmmmm Ra's the man who killed Sara Lance is named...Barry Allen?" "The murderer's name is...uh, Kyle Nimbus. He's this guy who may or may not be able to will himself into a gaseous volume of cyanide. Good luck?" Barry can punch someone at over 760mph. Ra's would still beat him because Plot Reasons...but realistically, a ~150 pound Barry punching a guy at 760mph would literally rip that guy's head off his body. Even at a lower speed, pretty much any hit Barry connected would be like the force of a car crash dispelled over a fist-sized area. Flash tends to undersell that physical reality. Because it would be extremely horrifying if Barry accidentally shattered a bank robbers' sternum and destroyed his internal organs. "Woo! Cisco, I got him!" "Take that, Captain Mischief--- wait, holy gently caress, Barry, gently caress! What did you?!? Jesus!"
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Dec 11, 2014 23:02
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:The best part was the music cue that was all, "Now this is where Ollie turns the tables and -- oh." Batman defeated Ra's everytime in BTAS. Ollie truly is the poor man's Batman.
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Dec 11, 2014 23:03
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Katrina Law could make a clown suit look menacing and hot.
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Dec 11, 2014 23:04
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Oliver Queen is dead. You have been reborn as السهم الأخضر (with apologies to anyone who actually speaks Arabic)
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Dec 11, 2014 23:06
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I enjoy the fact that among the many ways they have made the Arrow essentially into Batman is that Oliver is already a specialist in cheating. He couldn't beat Merlyn (numerous times) in a straight fight, so he tricked him into catching an explosive arrow. He cheated the gently caress out of fighting the Flash. The problem with the R'as fight for him was that he had no opportunity to stack the deck in his favour like he usually does at this point.
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Dec 11, 2014 23:06
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Bad Moon posted:Deathstroke did that to the Flash once In the comics. He had fought Wally so many times he knew what Wally's opening move would be striking him from behind so as soon as the Flash charged he moved his sword behind him and stabby times occured That's still a great way to turn a guy who was going to stop and punch you into a guy who can't stop and is barreling through you at 600mph rendering you into a chunky red salsa.
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Dec 11, 2014 23:10
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Xealot posted:Flash tends to undersell that physical reality. Because it would be extremely horrifying if Barry accidentally shattered a bank robbers' sternum and destroyed his internal organs. I think it would be pretty awesome if there was a show or comic who's entire premise was superpowers, but done realistically (meaning that if Superman punched you he would liquefy your face). Is there a comic like this?
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Dec 11, 2014 23:14
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imperialparadox posted:I think it would be pretty awesome if there was a show or comic who's entire premise was superpowers, but done realistically (meaning that if Superman punched you he would liquefy your face). Is there a comic like this? Strong Female Protagonist is a very good comic on the web that tries to take a realistic look at the world of super heroes.
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Dec 11, 2014 23:17
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I love that none of you bats an eye at a guy who can archive more than Mach 1 on foot, but than tries to argue real world physics with it, to make some kind of point.
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The problem with Barry vs. Ra's is that Barry's just not violent enough. He'd hesitate, he pull his punches and Ra's would only need one hit to stop him long enough for a kill. imperialparadox posted:Yeah I don't think that he will literally shrink, I think that Palmer was more talking about miniaturizing weapons and gadgets so that they could all fit on his suit. ... Inspector Gadget. Accretionist fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Dec 11, 2014 |
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Dec 11, 2014 23:35
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imperialparadox posted:I think it would be pretty awesome if there was a show or comic who's entire premise was superpowers, but done realistically (meaning that if Superman punched you he would liquefy your face). Is there a comic like this? There are, but they tend to be pretty lovely since they approach things from a perspective of, "Oh yeah, nerds? Well here's what would really happen if these people had superpowers!  " Which of course winds up being just as unrealistic as sticking to the genre conventions of superheroes. They also usually pretty adolescent, wallowing in violence.
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Random Stranger posted:There are, but they tend to be pretty lovely since they approach things from a perspective of, "Oh yeah, nerds? Well here's what would really happen if these people had superpowers! Are you thinking of Millarverse stuff?
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imperialparadox posted:I think it would be pretty awesome if there was a show or comic who's entire premise was superpowers, but done realistically (meaning that if Superman punched you he would liquefy your face). Is there a comic like this? Definitely, I'd love to see altered physics for anyone at superspeed. Like, a 160 lb dude moving at the speed of a 9 mm has the momentum of a 95,000 kg locomotive rolling along at about 10" per second. Someone with that much momentum wouldn't be running; they would be a ballistic mass with arms and legs, altering trajectory by tearing off street signs and destroying sidewalks. It'd be like that bit in Hancock with the exploding bench, everytime.
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Dec 11, 2014 23:41
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King of Solomon posted:Yeah, they're clearly justifying him as "The Atom" right now by having him just use tiny military tech. They did lay the seeds for him to actually shrink in the future when he picked up that mine, though. The suit is named O.M.A.C. but Ray said that he likes to call it ATOM.
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Xealot posted:Flash tends to undersell that physical reality. Because it would be extremely horrifying if Barry accidentally shattered a bank robbers' sternum and destroyed his internal organs. The guy he saves from the car crash in the opening credits, he'd kill him just from moving him out of the way. It'd turn the poor guy into loving jelly, better to just let him be hit by the car. Same with everyone else he "saved" by instantly accelerating them from 0 to 600 mph. Well done Barry, no it's a bit late to superspeed that guy to the hospital, go steal a shovel and superspeed him a shallow grave instead you dumb gently caress.
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tooterfish posted:He doesn't have to be throwing a punch to do that though? Physics question. Why did only Felicity's clothes burn up?
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Dec 12, 2014 00:07
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So he's killed Cisco, Caitlin, Roy and Felicity twice?
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JayBeeTee posted:The suit is named O.M.A.C. but Ray said that he likes to call it ATOM. I did catch that line, yes. 
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Dec 12, 2014 00:08
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I'm excited to see what happens next month! I'm hoping Thea becomes a player and not just a piece.
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jscolon2.0 posted:Physics question. Why did only Felicity's clothes burn up? Barry's jacket burned in the pilot. I'm sure we'll get an explanation on Barry's powers like "your aura protects you to a degree and your clothes bah bah bah."
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jscolon2.0 posted:Physics question. Why did only Felicity's clothes burn up? Felicity is hot
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adhuin posted:Has some internet detective determined Bet on... Slade. No I don't care how it works, but that's what I'm going with.
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jscolon2.0 posted:Physics question. Why did only Felicity's clothes burn up? Because we like seeing Felicity half-nekkid.
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adhuin posted:Has some internet detective determined I'm gonna keep going with what works and go with the Thea theory.
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dreffen posted:Bet on... I would actually love this. I don't know they'd pull it off, but it would be great.
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Dec 12, 2014 00:16
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From now on can we refer to Palmer/ATOM as nerdy ironman?
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dreffen posted:Bet on... Nope. He's set to return later this season, but not this early.
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zoux posted:Are you thinking of Millarverse stuff? Millar's done a more than his fair share of it sure, but it's been kicking around since Watchmen made a bunch of people go, "Aha! That's how you're supposed to do superheroes!" (and then proceed to get it completely wrong).
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Dec 12, 2014 00:33
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Gotta admit, lol'd pretty hard at the apt: "remove your shirt. This is custom."
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zoux posted:I took that as more of a justification for why he's the Atom (see! he shrinks stuff! That's the connection!) than that he'd actually shrink. Just because what looks cool on the page doesn't necessarily translate to the screen. Spoken like someone who needs to re-watch the Ant-Man test footage again.
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JayBeeTee posted:The suit is named O.M.A.C. but Ray said that he likes to call it ATOM. I would be totally down with a full-on Jack Kirby OMAC character.
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I thought ATOM's speech was really dumb this episode when he was talking about his suit. "Y'know what the greatest advancement in technology is? Making things smaller. Nobody has realized this yet so I am going to go ahead and... get this... make technology smaller."
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