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No, but the person owning the province can, if relations are poor, destroy them for cash benefits to them. There is never a need to destroy them, though-having it is ALWAYS a benefit, NEVER a loss. There's never a case of 'find somewhere better'.
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:I won my first election by assassination. There was only one other candidate who came close to my son, and he's gone now. He was also the steward, and that position has gone to my second son. The House of Contarini will not fall to something so petty as democracy. Patrician election are not democracy, its not the peasantry who vote, its the rich people. So technically you just murdered an elector 
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Dec 11, 2014 09:39
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Obliterati posted:There's also some strange overlap with the Football Manager series.
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Dec 11, 2014 11:21
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frankenfreak posted:Trying to get your youngster to become good by setting them up with proper mentors, hoping they develop good attributes, and that your wonderkid will lead you to glory. Checks out. Football Manager needs to add plots to assassinate the owner.
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Dec 11, 2014 11:54
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I've got a whole lot of retinues as Venice, but they won't leave the city for some reason. Clicking and telling them to move gets me nothing. Trying to get them into ships gets me nothing. Neither my retinues or my levies will leave Venice, which is a huge pain in the rear end because Croatia keeps declaring war on me then going around wrecking my trade posts. I've contented myself by assassinating every single person who ends up in the leadership role, but I'd really like to be able to deal with them directly.
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Dec 11, 2014 13:24
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:I've got a whole lot of retinues as Venice, but they won't leave the city for some reason. Clicking and telling them to move gets me nothing. Trying to get them into ships gets me nothing. Neither my retinues or my levies will leave Venice, which is a huge pain in the rear end because Croatia keeps declaring war on me then going around wrecking my trade posts. Normally, you can just surrender the wars Croatia declares on you. They're over cities held by your rival patricians, and them losing power is a good thing. Ideally, your rival patricians hold nothing but their palaces. As for the soldier issue, there are two ways to get people off Venice. #1: Soldiers in province Venice, ships in province Venice (this should happen after you raise ships and levies) - select soldiers, click button with arrow and ship on it to embark. Move ships into the sea zone that borders the province you want to land in, click the soldier to select the army on board, then move them to the province you want to go to. #2: Soldiers in province Venice, ships in sea zone Gulf of Venice - select soldiers, move them into sea zone, they should automatically board. Proceed as with #1 from there. If both don't work and you're sure the amount of soldiers can fit into the amount of boats (don't forget to merge the different boat groups into one big one), it sounds like there's something majorly wrong, because AFAIK nothing can interfere with transporting, what with a total lack of naval combat and all.
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:I've got a whole lot of retinues as Venice, but they won't leave the city for some reason. Clicking and telling them to move gets me nothing. Trying to get them into ships gets me nothing. Neither my retinues or my levies will leave Venice, which is a huge pain in the rear end because Croatia keeps declaring war on me then going around wrecking my trade posts. Venice is an island.  Get some boats.
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Torrannor posted:Yeah, I don't know why you would be upset that somebody emerges who is at least theoretically able to stop the Abbasids and the rather strong Umayyads of your game from swallowing all of Christian Europe. I am trying to think of the last time, in my like 1400 hours of play, that I've had to deal with Muslim Death Stacks. Those jackasses can't even hold onto the Holy Land.
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Dec 11, 2014 14:54
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Are TFFers still j/oing or I'm psyched for way of life
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Dec 11, 2014 15:12
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ninjahedgehog posted:Socotra, Iceland, Canarias, and Kola. First person to relevancy wins! Iceland has a built in advantage.
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Dec 11, 2014 15:14
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Bloodly posted:No, but the person owning the province can, if relations are poor, destroy them for cash benefits to them. This. If you want to build more trade posts, have sons and upgrade your mansion.
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Dec 11, 2014 16:49
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I mentioned that I was having problems with Croatia, who kept declaring war on me and wrecking all my trade posts. After a few years of bribes, assassinations, and general underhand fuckery, this happened to them.  Two different rebellions at the same time. By the time they finally managed to quell them, the Byzantine Empire had snatched up one of the rebelling territories.  Then the Venetian army walked in and kicked then while they were down, called their queen fat, then rode off into the sunset with their middle fingers in the air. Republics are awesome.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:
I just found this old post and I am  about not having that save file anymore.
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LOSING IS FUN! 
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ninjahedgehog posted:Socotra, Iceland, Canarias, and Kola. First person to relevancy wins! I am just finishing up an Iceland Ironman game where I formed the HRE and control all of Western Europe.
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Dec 11, 2014 19:14
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Pork Pie Hat posted:Football Manager needs to add plots to assassinate the owner. That's basically Blood Bowl.
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Nobody Interesting posted:What's the best way to die? If I die now my dynasty will get the Holy Roman throne back. I would go on a pilgrimage to go and get depressed but I'm stuck in two wars so that's not available. Find the eventID for the geriatric sex event that has a 10 percent chance of you dying from a heart attack and fire it until dead.
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Dec 11, 2014 20:25
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The Cheshire Cat posted:That's basically Blood Bowl. My fav rule from blood bowl is if both players bring the same unique special unit, neither of them get to play him but both have to pay because its assumed the player has scammed them and run off with the cash.
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The Cheshire Cat posted:That's basically Blood Bowl. Man I do love me some Blood Bowl.
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beefart posted:Find the eventID for the geriatric sex event that has a 10 percent chance of you dying from a heart attack and fire it until dead. If you're going to use the console, you might as well just kill yourself via the console.
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SeaTard posted:If you're going to use the console, you might as well just kill yourself via the console. That's not nearly as memorable a death as having sex twenty-eight times in one day, then subsequently dying as a result of it, though! 
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beefart posted:Find the eventID for the geriatric sex event that has a 10 percent chance of you dying from a heart attack and fire it until dead. Iron Man mode. I don't cheat at silly history!
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Awww man. I can't connect the empire of Britannia's succession with the Jomsvikings succession. The grandmasters son is going to inherit the empire. And I can't play as a theocracy, so I can't switch over to him and create the titular kingdom and empire of Jomsviking either.  Does this happen when the Teutonic Order takes over a king title as well?
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Dec 12, 2014 00:19
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I hope not! In my game the Teutonic Order gained the entire kingdom of Aquitane and are all the bulwark holding the Ummayad menace back from all Europe.
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meanwhile in my game as zoroastrian persia the teutonic order got lost and ended up in the Kola Peninsula in the 10th century
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So, I've succeeded in turning Brittania into a Sunni Viking paradise, and I'm trying to decide what to do next. My first thought was converting to a heresy, or Shia/Ibadi, unfortunately the only Muslim character on the map who isn't Sunni is one solitary 67 year old Shia lady on her deathbed. Any ideas on how to spice this up?
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TITY BOI posted:So, I've succeeded in turning Brittania into a Sunni Viking paradise, and I'm trying to decide what to do next. My first thought was converting to a heresy, or Shia/Ibadi, unfortunately the only Muslim character on the map who isn't Sunni is one solitary 67 year old Shia lady on her deathbed. Any ideas on how to spice this up? Let her die, then wait for the rise of the Shia event 
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Okay, the Abbasids have been made manageable (they never bring all 20k of their troops at once, thank god.) Can we now get patches that put some cracks into the Umayyad monstrosity that always forms Hispania and always expands way beyond Tours?
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WOW there are a lot of DLCs for this. Uhh...wow. Are there any recommendations on DLCs that really improve the game and stand out above others? Are any necessary at all?
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Kawalimus posted:WOW there are a lot of DLCs for this. Uhh...wow. Are there any recommendations on DLCs that really improve the game and stand out above others? Are any necessary at all? Just wait for a bundle offer to come out in a sale. They're might be one for Christmas. I got every DLC from launch until March 2014 for like $20. The republic, old gods, and sons of Abraham are the ones that really add to the gameplay though.
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Kawalimus posted:WOW there are a lot of DLCs for this. Uhh...wow. Are there any recommendations on DLCs that really improve the game and stand out above others? Are any necessary at all? Depends who you want to play as. Sword of Islam allows you to play as Muslims. Sunset Invasion is a fun AU where Europe is the technological backwater and the Aztecs invade. The Republic lets you play as Republics. The Old Gods let you play as Pagans, and expands the world back to 867, the age of the Karling clowncar. Of all the 'unlock' DLC this one is recommended because playing as Norse is awesome. Sons of Abraham add features to Christians and Muslims, and add Jews, who are playable. Rajas of India makes the three Indian religions, which were added in a patch (along with India) playable. Charlemagne pushes the start back even further, and lets you play a 'story' campaign as Charlemagne. Way of Life, which releases next week, adds a lot of small things. The two that I'd recommend, if you don't feel like 'adding', are Sons of Abraham and an additional one, Legacy of Rome. Legacy of Rome fleshes out the Byzantines, but also adds Retinues, which are a permanent sort-of standing army. Other than that, the Customization DLC lets you change things like Kingdom names, Ruler Designer lets you create your own character and take over for anyone in the world, and the EU4 converter adds the ability to convert the game to an EU4 mod and play the 15th century to the early 19th century. All minor DLC just adds songs, clothes, unit sprites and faces.
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Volkerball posted:Just wait for a bundle offer to come out in a sale. They're might be one for Christmas. I got every DLC from launch until March 2014 for like $20. The republic, old gods, and sons of Abraham are the ones that really add to the gameplay though. Thanks for the advice, that sounds like a way better idea than trying to pick through. edit: And if I get just one it'll be old gods. But right now I still need to learn what the hell I'm even doing. Kawalimus fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Dec 12, 2014 |
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Kawalimus posted:WOW there are a lot of DLCs for this. Uhh...wow. Are there any recommendations on DLCs that really improve the game and stand out above others? Are any necessary at all? If you only get one, you should get the The Old Gods, which gives you an earlier start date and access to norse pagans, the objectively Coolest and Best religion.
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Wait until the Christmas sale to buy them for 80% off
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Kawalimus posted:WOW there are a lot of DLCs for this. Uhh...wow. Are there any recommendations on DLCs that really improve the game and stand out above others? Are any necessary at all? Don't buy the unit packs, faces, shields or songs (actually you MAY want the songs if the soundtrack gets a bit grating) unless you're into cosmetics that add nothing to gameplay. Get all the legit expansions MAYBE the ruler designer / customisation pack but be sure to leave an angry note about how these should be in the game already. The Old Gods, Sword of Islam and Sons of Abraham I will say are the absolute essentials because they make religion actually mean something.
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Nobody Interesting posted:Don't buy the unit packs, faces, shields or songs (actually you MAY want the songs if the soundtrack gets a bit grating) unless you're into cosmetics that add nothing to gameplay. Get all the legit expansions MAYBE the ruler designer / customisation pack but be sure to leave an angry note about how these should be in the game already. The Old Gods, Sword of Islam and Sons of Abraham I will say are the absolute essentials because they make religion actually mean something. Source your quotes
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Kawalimus posted:Thanks for the advice, that sounds like a way better idea than trying to pick through. Old Gods is definitely worthwhile, and Legacy of Rome is another vital one because it lets you get Retinue, which are not as good as they used ot be but still really useful mid to late game. But yeah, they will all be on sale over Christmas and you should be able to get your pick for at least 50% but more than likely 75% off.
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Eh, at least get the face pack that adds black people to the game. Its kind of weird without it.
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quote:I've noticed a couple of immersion problems. The demographic spread isn't proportionate to reality. Looking at social sciences and human history, we know that even people of the same culture, but separate racial background are not going to work together. Especially in a time so dark age esque, brutal, tribal and so forth. I live in Quebec and I can tell you outside of Montreal there is very few people who are not French Canadian. The province itself is 88% French Canadian and almost entirely homogenous. The only area with people of other cultures is the island of Montreal, and the aboriginal reserves just South of the island. Canada in general has significantly less African American people who reside in it. Make Vodun their religion, or a newurban culture themed religion where Lil B (Who refers to himself as, and is referred to as Based God) is their god.
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Kawalimus posted:Thanks for the advice, that sounds like a way better idea than trying to pick through. OG is the right choice, but getting all of them on sale is the best move. Even the little changes like portraits add a ton of flavor to the game for me, and knowing what I know about you I am sure you'll feel similarly.
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Mantis42 posted:Eh, at least get the face pack that adds black people to the game. Its kind of weird without it. The Turkish, Persian, Mongolian and African portraits are a must because every one who isn't European looking and dressing like Arabs is mega stupid.
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